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Author Topic: Giselda and Sakashima  (Read 2111 times)
RaZe
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« on: April 13, 2012, 01:38:26 pm »

I was wondering how having Sakashima copying Giselda would work out. It's mostly dependent if the effect of having 'two' Giseldas is cumulative.

Duel scenarios.

01. You control both creatures. - Are the effects 'cumulative'.

02 You control 1 creature - Opponent controls other. - Do they effectively cancel each other?

Multi-player scenarios

01. You control both creatures

02. You control 1 creature, team controls the 2nd.

03. You control 1 creature, opponent team controls the 2nd.
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 01:52:52 pm »

If you control 2, anytime you or an opponent is dealt damage there would be 2 identical applicable replacement effects if you control both.  They would be applied one after the other.

If you control 2:
if you're opponent or his permanents would be dealt X damage, they end up taking 4X damage.  And if you or your permanents would be dealt damage they end up taking floor(floor(X/2)/2) damage

If both you and your opponent both control 1, then there are 2 competing replacement effects, the effected player or controller of the affected permanent chooses the order they apply.  Presumably they would halve first, then double, taking X damage if X is even and X-1 if odd.

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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2012, 12:37:03 pm »

So from what I gather, if I control 2, the effects are cumulative. If me and the opponent control 1 each, then the effects are basically negated.

Thanks for the reply.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2012, 01:36:08 pm »

So from what I gather, if I control 2, the effects are cumulative. If me and the opponent control 1 each, then the effects are basically negated.

Thanks for the reply.
If you each control a copy, the effects are greatly reduced, but not negated. Whenever something would suffer an odd amount of damage, (assuming optimal play) 1 less damage is dealt instead. That one point of damage can mean a lot (Bolts become Shocks, for a start).
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Much like humanity itself.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 05:36:49 pm »

What's Giselda do?  I can't seem to find the card anywhere.
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2012, 12:17:19 pm »

One sided Furnace of Rath - Yes Please.
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I suppose it's mostly the thought that this format is just one big Mistake; and not even a very sophisticated one at that.
Much like humanity itself.
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