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Author Topic: [20/05/12 BoM 6 Vintage Mainevent and bonus] First place in Vintage with Dredge  (Read 6225 times)
Brot_Ohne_Kruste
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« on: May 25, 2012, 01:32:20 am »

Hi there,

I'll just copy-paste my text from the tipo1-
forum Razz:

" Hi there,
not many people will know me here in this
forum, so I'm going to introduce myself a bit.
My name is Erik Hegemann, I'm 22 years old
and live in Germany. Since my mother-tongue is
German and I don't really know any Italian, I'm
going to write this text in English Wink. Since this
forum is really popular for Vintage-players, I
wanted to post my little tournament-report
from my performance at this years Bazaar of
Moxen 6. So, here we go:

Friday, Legacy, about 400 players:
Weapon of choice is, of course, the German
deck (Dredge) Wink. After reaching the 4th place
out of 633 players in the last year's Legacy
Mainevent with Dredge, I really wanted to
repeat this result in at least one tournament this
weekend. I played the following list with -1 Ray,
+1 Jouney in the SB: www.planetmtg.de/
articles/artikel.html?id=6133

UW Miracle (2-1)
Trisomy 21 [Bgw Loampox] (2-0)
Sneak Show (2-1)
UR Delver (2-0)
Team America (1-2)
UW Mircale (1-2)
Canadian (2-1)
UW Miracle (2-0)
ANT (1-2) (made a horrible mistake that costed
me the gamegame)
Uwb Snapcaster (2-0)
7-3-0

I got 35th which is quite okay, but I didn't claim
any prices at all.


Saturday, Legacy, about 730 players:
Again, I played the same list.
GW Combo Elves (2-1)
Canadian (2-0)
Canadian (1-2)
Sneak Show (1-2)
UR Delver (2-1)
Storm Combo (2-1)
Dragon Stompy (2-1)
Canadian (2-1)
Dredge (0-2)
6-3-0

I placed 125th.


Sunday, Vintage, about 330 players:
First of all I have to tell you a little story. When it
comes to Magic I don't really test at all (and I'm
not playing many tournaments, almost just the
bigger ones). This means all the testing is made
by my friends that are almost always playing
Dredge. The tournament is my testingfield.
Normally it works like that: "Hi Erik. Here is a
decklist and here are the boardingplans. Play it!"
And I do so. It's like I'm a maggot in bacon as
we used to call it in German ("Made im Speck" :-
D).
The events at this weekend aren't different. I got
all my decklists and boardingplans from my
friends; I activated the so called "maggot-
mode" Razz. And here is the decklist I played in
Vintage:

25 creatures:
4 Bloodghast
4 Narcomoeba
3 Ichorid
4 Golgari Grave Troll
4 Stinkweed Imp
2 Golgari Thug
4 Ingot Chewer

19 other Spells:
2 Darkblast
4 Bridge from Below
4 Serum Powder
1 Ancient Grudge
4 Cabal therapy
4 Leyline of the Void

16 Lands :
4 Bazaar of Bagdad
4 Petrified Field
4 City of Brass
4 Undiscovered Paradise
Sideboard :

3 Wispmare
4 Unmask
4 Chain of Vapor
4 Nature's Claim


MUD (2-1)
Dredge (2-0)
Oath (2-1)
Uwb Snapcaster Control (2-0)
Dredge (2-1)
Urg Delver (2-1) Video Feature-match: http://
youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch
%3Fv
%3D95tmzW6cw4A&v=95tmzW6cw4A&gl=US
Snapcaster Control (2-0)
ID
ID
7-0-2

Top 8:
Uw Stoneforge Control (2-0) Video Feature-
match: http://youtube.com/watch?
gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-
google&rl=yes&v=8uBrQ6mRqLI

Top 4:
Uw Bomberman (2-1) Video Feature-match:
 http://youtube.com/watch?
gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-
google&rl=yes&v=qlU7ICtf_0U

Final:
Stax (2-1) Video Feature-match: http://
youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-
google&rl=yes&v=zHVjaZSB5ng g

So, I won the whole tournament and recieved a
full set of Unlimited Power. In addition I
recieved an signed and altered Ancestral Recall
because I played an unpowered deck. And
because of that, I don't think that my friends are
going to stop calling me "die Made" (the
maggot) in the near future, but that's fine for
me Very Happy.

I hope you had a good read.

Regards,

Erik"
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GP Ghent 2012 - 37th out of 1,345
Bazaar of Moxen VI 2012 - Vintage - Winner out of 337
Maintal Legacy April 2012 - Top 8 out of 127
Bazaar of Moxen V 2011 - Legacy - Top 4 out of 633
Bazaar of Moxen V 2011 - Legacy last chance trial - Top 16 out of 146
GP Gothenburg 2010 Side Event Legacy - Top 16 out of 132
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2012, 07:13:16 am »

Congrats on first. Ive seen many builds of dredge but never have I seen maindeck chewers? Why chewers and not claims or chain of vapor? And why no love for mental misstep? I think it should be in there. Another card u could test is surgical extraction. I think it could be good in dredge. Anyways congrats again.
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2012, 07:54:47 am »

Nothing better than seeing Germans dominate in France...

Congratulations, excellent work!
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2012, 04:12:33 am »

Congrats on first. Ive seen many builds of dredge but never have I seen maindeck chewers? Why chewers and not claims or chain of vapor? And why no love for mental misstep? I think it should be in there. Another card u could test is surgical extraction. I think it could be good in dredge. Anyways congrats again.

Thank you Smile.

First of all: I don't think Mental Misstep and Surgical Extraction are good cards in Dredge. With Bazaar of Baghdad it is possible to draw into solutions preboard. If you play MM you have to have this card on your hand when the hate hits the table. And even then it might get countered by another MM from my opponent.
Think about it: Which kind of hate you mostly encounter game one? It's almost ever artifactbased in form of Grafdiggers Cage; most likely in a blue shell with Trinket Mages. Here comes in handy the artifactdestruction. Nature's Claim is a good card and actually I played it the day before in the Chewer slot. But almost every deck that plays preboard Cages is blue and almost every deck of those play MM. In that case the Chewer is just better. And as a nice sidebenefit you are able to get tokens with it through your Bridges. And you can slow your opponent down by destroying their Moxen in which case the don't gain 4 life Smile.


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Nothing better than seeing Germans dominate in France...

Congratulations, excellent work!

Thanks a lot Smile.
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GP Ghent 2012 - 37th out of 1,345
Bazaar of Moxen VI 2012 - Vintage - Winner out of 337
Maintal Legacy April 2012 - Top 8 out of 127
Bazaar of Moxen V 2011 - Legacy - Top 4 out of 633
Bazaar of Moxen V 2011 - Legacy last chance trial - Top 16 out of 146
GP Gothenburg 2010 Side Event Legacy - Top 16 out of 132
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2012, 07:11:11 am »

Salute.IMAO wispmare is the best card for dredge sideboard - can't be spell pierced,misstepped,and flusterstormed.How do you feel about sideboarding?
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2012, 01:09:10 pm »

yes could you please let us know more about your board plan? what do you usually side out etc.

Thanks!
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2012, 08:04:22 am »

But, but, but....it's not possible....grumble....extrem e variance....grumble
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 03:02:50 pm »

I heard that as soon as this happened, DeMars spontaneously combusted.

Congratulations on the performance, however! This makes at least two solid HUGE events eaten by zombies.

The only question I have is...what made your friends even decide on dredge for such a large event? You'd think the antidredge measures would be in full force to eliminate as many free losses as possible. Was there a rationale behind dredge or did you guys do what I do with ANT and just say "eh, fuggit. Hope nobody remembers i'm a thing."?  I'm curious, if only because gambit pillars are the more exciting things to play in vintage, and dredge's playability cycle kind of confuses me.
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2012, 03:50:02 am »

yes could you please let us know more about your board plan? what do you usually side out etc.

Thanks!

Hi,

here are my boardingplans:


Blue on the draw:
-1 Ichorid, -4 Field, -4 Leyline, -2 Thug
+4 Chain, +3 Wispmare, +4 Claim

on the play:
- see above, -4 Chewer (if he hasn't got any Leylines, don't board in the Wispmares)
+see above, +4 Unmask


Blue with Wasteland:
see above, just keep in the Fields and maybe the Chewer


MUD on the draw:
-4 Leyline
+4 Claim

on the play:
- see above, -2 Darkblast, -2 Therapy
+ see above, +4 Unmask


Mirror:
-4 Chewer, -4 Field, -1 Grudge, -1 Therapy, -1
Thug
+11 solutions vs. Leyline


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But, but, but....it's not
possible....grumble....extrem e
variance....grumble

Yeah, sometimes I got a bit lucky Razz.


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Congratulations on the performance, however!
This makes at least two solid HUGE events eaten
by zombies.

The only question I have is...what made your
friends even decide on dredge for such a large
event? You'd think the antidredge measures
would be in full force to eliminate as many free
losses as possible. Was there a rationale behind
dredge or did you guys do what I do with ANT
and just say "eh, fuggit. Hope nobody
remembers i'm a thing."?  I'm curious, if only
because gambit pillars are the more exciting
things to play in vintage, and dredge's playability
cycle kind of confuses me.

Thanks a lot Smile.

Actually we think Dredge is one of the strongest decks in both formats, Vintage and Legacy. Even with much hate against us. If you stop playing a deck just because you fear the hate, you can't get better in playing around this hate. And of course the deck is so much fun to play because it's so unfair.

If you know how to play against hate, the deck is really strong. This is especially true for the Legacy-version.

So, we played the deck because we're always playing it and we don't care of there is much hate Wink.
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GP Ghent 2012 - 37th out of 1,345
Bazaar of Moxen VI 2012 - Vintage - Winner out of 337
Maintal Legacy April 2012 - Top 8 out of 127
Bazaar of Moxen V 2011 - Legacy - Top 4 out of 633
Bazaar of Moxen V 2011 - Legacy last chance trial - Top 16 out of 146
GP Gothenburg 2010 Side Event Legacy - Top 16 out of 132
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