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Author Topic: Need help improving this Storm deck.  (Read 2091 times)
NodFreak
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« on: January 09, 2013, 12:57:17 am »

I have always loved playing storm, so i got really excited when i saw Stephen's Burning Wish list... the problem is that i lack some of the cards needed for this deck... i need some help reemplacing them.

Mmm, i really want to stick with this deck though... i know i might put together other decks that might be better in general tha this one (at least on its current form), but im having so much fun playing it, even if incomplete, that i dont want to change it... i mean, fun is great part of this isnt it?.

My current meta is also not that bad, its mostly legacy decks with a Vintage restricted/banned list, some pet decks, and very little power around in general, "T1" here is mostly about fun with stuff we cant normally use, since its an area/country largely dominated by T2... and just recently stuff like Legacy is being played (and not that much still)

Anyways, my list right now:

x1 Tolarian Academy
x1 Tropical Island
x3 Underground Sea
x4 Polluted Delta
x4 Forbidden Orchard

x2 Griselbrand

x4 Oath of Druids
x4 Burning Wish
x1 Wheel of Fortune
x1 Empty the Warrens

x1 Ancestral Recall
x1 Brainstorm
x1 Ponder
x1 Time Walk
x2 Hurkyl's Recall
x1 Windfall
x1 Tinker
x1 Mind's Desire

x1 Imperial Seal
x1 Vampiric Tutor
x4 Dark Ritual
x4 Duress
x1 Demonic Tutor
x1 Necropotence
x1 Tendrils of Agony
x1 Yawgmoth's Bargain

x1 Mox Opal
x1 Black Lotus
x1 Mox Sapphire
x1 Mox Jet
x1 Mox Ruby
x1 Chrome Mox
x1 Mana Crypt
x1 Lotus Petal
x1 Engineered Explosives
x1 Sol Ring
x1 Mana Vault
x1 Memory Jar

SB:

x2 Shattering Spree
x2 Pyroclasm
x1 Empty the Warrens
x1 Laboratory Maniac
x1 Yawgmoth's Will
x2 Engineered Plage
x1 Massacre
x1 Tendrils of Agony
x4 Defense Grid

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Now, as far as some of the cards i dont have, i can get them eventually (like the x4 City of Brass, x2-4 Gemstone Mine, x1 Chrome Mox, x1 Mox Opal for the main)... its just that i dont have them with me right now.

I guess as far as lands go, i can go with this changes when i get them:

-4 Polluted Delta
-3 Underground Sea
-1 Tropical Island

+4 City of Brass
+4 Gemstone Mine

But i dont know what i should take out for both the Moxes, maybe:

-1 Engineered Explosives
-1 Imperial Seal

+1 Chrome Mox
+1 Mox Opal

Any thoughs on this changes?, or will you guys for others? Most people tell me to remove 1 Hurkyl's and keep the Imperial Seal, or remove x2 Gemstone Mines instead (for the 2 moxes)... but this makes me feel like im running too little mana (specially since i lack 2 old moxes)

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For others, its really difficult since i havent see them around, like, at all, this includes x1 Show and Tell, and the x1 Lion's Eye Diamond. And of course, the 3 pieces of power i lack (Mox Emerald, Mox Pearl, Timetwister), so this are cards i cant see myself getting anywhere near the future, unless i get extremelly lucky and happen to come across them in a bidder or something like that (again, unlikely... even if i travel to another cities)

I also lack a few less expensive cards, but since there is mostly T2 stuff around, they are kinda hard to find at this point (Demonic Consultation, Diminishing Returns, Balance) because people that have them, dont carry them around, and since i get to go to tournaments in other cities very infrequently, i cant seem to fix a trade/buy for those (not many people are willing to waste time searching for a couple of 1-3$ cards for a guy from another city... me)

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Now, as far as new additions, main of SB, i just want to point out that there is no such thing as Workshops around here, affinity/ravager like decks mostly, Combo Elves!, Mystic Remora, Oath of Druids, Fish decks of many types, adaptations of Legacy decks to T1, Dredge (without Bazaar), control mixes (with Standstill, or Arcane Lab), many Aggro decks with goblins, delver, etc, storm decks based around Ad Nauseum mostly.

Just a few notes here, the Mystic Remora deck is almost fully powered, and there is 1 dredge deck complete with Bazaars that i know of. This are the only notable decks i have caught though... there might be others out there, but its really hard to pinpoint.

The meta is very diverse, as in... expect anything, so im looking for more general stuff to deal with this... my SB right now kinda reflects that (with Massacre, Engineered Plague, Shattering Spree and Defense Grid) since they kinda appeal to many variations of decks around here.

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Anyways, im open to changes and recomendations for both main and SB changes, and any recomendation you guys might have.

Thank you Smile
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2013, 10:13:56 am »

Just to be clear, you're asking us to rebuild a tuned deck because you don't want to spend $20?
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 10:49:54 am »

Its more like a "what can i put in while i find the cards?" kind of help, i know, blasphemy!

Its not that i cant spend the money, its just that i cant find them. I tried locally and nothing, then online just to have them stolen at customs (i bought a couple of T2 boxes + LED + SaT + a couple of duals and all commons i needed, and all got "lost"... of course, i havent got a cent back for this), and the second time not shipped and still charged (and im still disputing the right to get my money back from this time)... i have lost over 500$ trying to get cards and im kinda sick of it, im trying to just play the deck with what i have for now and asking if there are any changes that can be done while searching for the rest, instead of leaving the deck at a side and not playing at all for who knows how long until i find everything.

If its better, then just assume i have all cards exept for the x3 P9, and what to put on their places.

That, and any kind of changes to the SB for a meta with no shops, since a great deal of the SB in those list are against shops (like x4 Ancient Tomb) and just have a more broader SB for an unexpected meta.
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