The chances of a vintage 8 man firing at GP Charlotte are less than ...

[nedleeds]

.... peace in the middle east

.... the NRA lobbying for an amendment to allow Obama to serve a third term

.... the Mets, Knicks and Jets all winning the title in the same year

Anyway, I'm going with 2 others who can bring vintage meaning 5 others from the rest of the planet would need to pack in order for us to get an 8 man to fire ... anyone from here going?

I realize its miserable sealed, but SCG is running side events and there's the silly goldrush thing to encourage you to sign up for the main event.

[TendrilsFTW]

I know that I will be there with at least one other person with a sleeved vintage deck ready to go.  Possibly a 3rd or 4th with me.

[Klep]

I'm going to be at Charlotte, but I can't imagine bringing my Vintage deck to an event that large without having security measures in place.

[AmbivalentDuck]

I'm going to be at Charlotte, but I can't imagine bringing my Vintage deck to an event that large without having security measures in place.

Yet another argument in favor of 75 proxy Vintage.

[TheWhiteDragon]

I'm going to be at Charlotte, but I can't imagine bringing my Vintage deck to an event that large without having security measures in place.

Yet another argument in favor of 75 proxy Vintage.

Not to jack the thread, but if that were a legit reason for counterfeiting, then there'd be no reason to buy anything of value when you could just make illegal replicas of anything you want before leaving the house.  I understand the plea for proxies to help grow the game, but calling it a security measure basically undermines the expense of any intellectual property since you can just "copy" whatever you want to minimize risk of theft.  I don't want $20 blue-rays to get stolen, so is it okay to just rip copies of DVDs I don't own to enjoy with my buddies and call it a security measure?

And to get back on topic - I won't be in attendance.  The thought of my sharpied plains getting stolen terrifies me.

[nedleeds]

I mean ... I attend Legacy GPs. There is nothing more than basic security there. My deck is filled with beta / alpha duals that are worth more than my mauled beta / alpha moxen. Gets to a point where it's pointless to own real cards if you aren't interested in ever playing with them no?

Be careful with your stuff. Etc.

Anyway ... back on topic I think I'll have 2-3 with me with Vintage ... getting an 8 man to fire would be fucking awesome.

[Klep]

There's an order of magnitude difference between my Vintage deck's value and the value of any Legacy deck I would build.  I'll happily play Vintage in an event that is dedicated to the format and either small enough to keep an eye on or conscious of the security concerns, but I'm not going to bring it to a Grand Prix in the hopes of getting an 8-man side event together.

[AmbivalentDuck]

Not to jack the thread, but if that were a legit reason for counterfeiting, then there'd be no reason to buy anything of value when you could just make illegal replicas of anything you want before leaving the house.

Who said counterfeiting? Sharpied up playing cards can't be passed off as real MtG cards. Take a high-res picture of your deck in front of that morning's newspaper. Play with an identical list in near-valueless playing cards instead of expensive MtG cards. They're just representative symbols anyways.

[The Atog Lord]

Guys, please keep the discussion in this thread on-topic. Thanks.

[Womba]

As much as I would love to see a Vintage 8 man fire, I typically don't bring any cards to limited GPs with me. Some of it is due to travel, some of it is due why risk losing something I don't need for the tournament, theft.

[nedleeds]

There's an order of magnitude difference between my Vintage deck's value and the value of any Legacy deck I would build.  I'll happily play Vintage in an event that is dedicated to the format and either small enough to keep an eye on or conscious of the security concerns, but I'm not going to bring it to a Grand Prix in the hopes of getting an 8-man side event together.

As much as I would love to see a Vintage 8 man fire, I typically don't bring any cards to limited GPs with me. Some of it is due to travel, some of it is due why risk losing something I don't need for the tournament, theft.

Fair enough. No reflection on you guys, it's just depressing to hear that vintage players going to a WotC premier event are too concerned about being robbed in a tourney hall to play vintage. I guess these are the times we live in.

I keep my deck in my hands at all time and have never had anything stolen at an event. I also don't trade at events so maybe that helps.

What about if I bought everyone fanny packs?  

[warr]

My Vintage cards don't leave the house unless it's specifically for a Vintage event.  I also only carry a maximum of 3-4 other legacy/modern decks with me + a trade binder at any time.  The rest plus my deckbuilding binders all stay at home unless it's a special occasion (e.g. they can travel to Gen Con but stay in the hotel).

Kind of sucks being limited but traveling light makes it easier to keep track of all my stuff and it's a measure that reduces risk to an acceptable level for me.

[TheWhiteDragon]

I wouldn't bring my vintage stuff to any non-vintage event.  I actually wouldn't advise bringing vintage cards to a vintage event.  My trade binder is locked in a safe and I never show anyone my cards.  They might be stolen! I'd only take 75 proxy to any event (actually, you would never need to buy any cards at all that aren't basic lands if 75 proxy were allowable - WotC would love that).  Actually, I wouldn't even take 75 proxy to an event, because then my car might be stolen while I was playing inside.  I suppose I could take a bus, but then what if someone want my wallet or my clothes???  Safest to just stay locked in my house with my shotguns and MWS I suppose.

[warr]

You left out the /sarcasm tag.

I enjoy actually using my cards for their intended purpose quite a bit, but losing several pieces of power in one incident while moving, another set of cards including 4 Bazaars in another, and 2 close calls in the last year was enough for me to re-evaluate.  That's just my opinion though.

[nedleeds]

I wouldn't bring my vintage stuff to any non-vintage event.  I actually wouldn't advise bringing vintage cards to a vintage event.  My trade binder is locked in a safe and I never show anyone my cards.  They might be stolen! I'd only take 75 proxy to any event (actually, you would never need to buy any cards at all that aren't basic lands if 75 proxy were allowable - WotC would love that).  Actually, I wouldn't even take 75 proxy to an event, because then my car might be stolen while I was playing inside.  I suppose I could take a bus, but then what if someone want my wallet or my clothes???  Safest to just stay locked in my house with my shotguns and MWS I suppose.

I LOLed. A snarky but appropriate statement on the state of the world of Vintage and security.

[shrewarmies]

In Sydney, Australia we managed to get 26 for a limited GP and that was sanctioned. Surely in the you guys could an 8 man if you tried.

[nedleeds]

We'll have 2-3 vintage decks in tow from Atlanta. We also have liberal carry laws here in the South  :p

Here's hoping we get some vintage battling at GP Charlotte!

[TendrilsFTW]

So I tried to start an 8 man vintage event and the only people that signed up were the 4 people that I was with at the event.  What happened guys?

[shrewarmies]

That is dissapointing.

[TheWhiteDragon]

So I tried to start an 8 man vintage event and the only people that signed up were the 4 people that I was with at the event.  What happened guys?

You're playing in a low-support format populated by mostly older people with jobs and families and an unwillingness to travel more than 2 hours for the "chance" of an 8 man tourney.

[Klep]

I thought I heard one of these firing on Sunday.  Did that not actually happen?

[nedleeds]

I too heard the call in the middle of the afternoon on Sunday (2pm?) ... I was getting set to leave at 3pm so I did not investigate further. Sidenote ... that GP was insane, you had like 1500 casuals show up for sealed / Goldrush and they had to split the tourney into a two headed monster. I'm not sure there was even seating for side events for the first few hours on Saturday.

[KingSquee]

I was busy grinding $10 drafts and eating my weight in BBQ (no easy feat) all day Sunday, sorry...

My Dredge deck did see some action in the 10K tournament, though. Fully planning to scoop to his Round 6 opponent so we could go get dinner, Hornung attempted to shuffle and present the Dredge deck instead of the RWU Flash concoction he registered. But apparently some judges caught wind of what was happening...