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Author Topic: [Free Podcast] SMIP # 28: Burning Tendrils Scenarios  (Read 5519 times)
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« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2013, 01:25:55 am »

I'm not talking about during their first draw step, though: can't they dredge immediately, during the resolution of Wheel of Fortune? Ie, they discard a dredger that was one of their starting seven, and dredge it to replace their first draw. They can then dredge up to six more times, if they had several dredgers in hand or get lucky with the library.

Oooooh yeah, I think they can actually.  I don't think the Menedian Crew thought of that.
They addressed it (perhaps not explicitly enough about Dredge potentially binning half of their deck before they had a turn), but Kevin alluded to the possibility of just dying on opponent's turn 1 or 2 after casting a Wheel or Draw7 on the play and passing the turn, and his rightful hesitation to do so. To do this you either have to have a large number of mana floating, or the ability to Draw7 into something like Oath and cast it immediately before passing, and then plan on killing your opponent on the next turn. There are very specific reasons why/when you would cast a Draw7 against Dredge to open the game (such as a mulligan to very few cards, or a good amount of mana floating), as doing so can just get you killed if you have no follow up play.

The only Draw7s that Burning Tendrils plays that mitigate this are Timetwister and Diminishing Returns (out of the sideboard, if you run it), which will shuffle the graveyards back into the decks, but also leave your graveyard barren of a Yawgmoth's Will-fueled finishing move that turn.
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« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2013, 06:47:13 am »

Yes.  Timetwister and Diminishing Returns are important tactics against Dredge for that reason. 

I thought we had mentioned it, so I'm glad you picked up on that fact Jaco. 

A list doen't help us create scenarios if neither Kevin nor I would play it, which neither one of us will.  We have extremely limited time, and aren't likely to play a deck that neither one of us is going to play in a tournament in the near future.

I ran this through my Sith translator.... This is what I got.

The Dark Sith Lord myself, Stephen Q. Menendian and my apprentice Darth CHA1N5 do not use blasters in lightsaber duels.

Precisely.  Smile
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