Vintage Online

[TheShop]

Some quick background on me:
-Still no local Vintage play of any kind (or legacy…or modern)
-Closest large tournament to me is 10 hours (Ohio from Mississippi)
-Still own dual/fetch/force/workshop cards sans power/shops (no drains or time vault)
-I recently became very disappointed with the gameplay of legacy
-I have read everything vintage I could get my hands on (again), listened to the SMIP podcasts 4 times, and    watched the 2013 champs coverage twice
-Just sold $2,500 in cards

Trolling for opinions here.  I seem like a prime candidate for Vintage Online given my location.  Would you attempt to buy back into paper Vintage or create a MTGO account and start collecting vintage staples?  Even with the money I have and the current state of my collection I couldn't build a big blue deck or workshops (which is where I would want to be).

Thanks,

Nick

[John Cox]

I think that some of the drafts on MTGO are free. I've been considering drafting on MTGO and drafting my way into the online card pool. I think there's enough time that you shouldn't have to pay a whole lot for all the staples (the main one being force of will). I would also hold off on some that I think will be reprinted like force of will and the dual lands.

Of course I haven't really looked into this and could be way off base.

[Chill79]

Vintage MTGO shops isn't that "expensive" workshops are at ~32$ each and everything else is below that...

-Jyri-

[enderfall]

I was someone else who fit your description: Didn't have a local Vintage scene... didn't have many paper staples... wanted to play Vintage.

I decided I would buy my way into MTGO and wait for Vintage to come online. I was able to buy in many cards for a fraction of their value today, but I still think there is ample opportunity to get started.

I would not suggest buying in right now because anything that is reprinted in Vintage Masters will drop, especially whatever gets printed at rare (instead of mythic). The flip side is that anything not reprinted in Vintage Masters will shoot up in price. If you are willing to do some scouting, once the full set spoiler is out, there will be a very short window to acquire the cards that won't be reprinted. Very short as in 1-2 hours after it is spoiled.

If you want to take the plunge now, Shops is pretty cheap right now. I think you could buy most of that deck for less than $500, though I haven't checked in a little while so it could be as much as $700. At that point, all you would need is to get Power when it is rleased and you'll be good to go.

I personally think that there will be a fairly large Vintage community on MTGO. We already have about 35-45 active Classic players (the precursor to Vintage) with dozens more on the sidelines waiting for Power. Add in the influx of players once Vintage Masters is finally released, and I think there could be a couple hundred active online Vintage players.

[Thecheese]

Ive been slwly buying shop stuff for mtgo ($50 a month). Its not terrible the biggest expenditure will be wastelands at $76 each.

Cant wait.

[gkraigher]

welcome to vintage, and you'll have a blast playing online.  The online cards are going to keep their value, just as much as the physical ones do.  Think of it more as a deposit than an investment with downside (there is very little downside to this, btw).

I only play in a couple of vintage tournaments each year myself, even though I have all the cards.  I always travel to the world champs, its a great community and a lot of fun.  There will never be a vintage tournament the size of grand prix richmond, and I am thankful for that, even though I would like to see the format grow in popularity.  I think online could do that, because the people who are isolated will at least be able to test and maybe feel confidant to travel to the world champs and/or bazaar of moxen.  

Even though I won't be playing on the online format, I will be watching the developments and the metagame it spurs.  I think you are not alone in being isolated from vintage tournaments, even though you love the format and the cards.  Think about all the players in Asia, Russia, and South America with similar loves of the game and few opponents to play against.  

Vintage online will be great for physical vintage.  Best of luck, and I know you will learn to love Magic's greatest format.  

[TheShop]

Thanks for your insights. 

One clarification- I have been playing no magic but vintage since 2005 until I started legacy in 2013.  555 posts here.  Not entirely green sold my 4 pieces of power in 2009.

It's about playing the only format I like, or basically not playing at all.  To be honest, there are several hunting rifles and small boats that have also been on my list for some time.

[yugular]

I am also eagerly waiting for Vintage Masters to hit mtgo. I live in an area where playing Vintage is not possible at all. I have been collecting eternal staples and I am already playing few legacy decks online. Depending on what the cost barrier to entry mtgo Vintage is, I might invest P9 right away or then I will slowly collect them.

I think the format will be success online for several reasons. Too bad I haven't found an active eternal clan in mtgo. I am currently in the source legacy mtgo clan, but it's very quiet and small.

[boxian]

I got my Bazaars already and a fair number of other staples for Bazaar decks. I am eagerly waiting VM and hoping for some specific reprints to lower prices down - Ichorid, Bloodghasts, LEDs (for legacy), Undiscovered Paradise and so on. My hope is to grind out some drafts, get some good cards and assemble a dredge list and then sit in the vintage queues as much as possible.

[dangerlinto]

Have a look here:

http://puremtgo.com/articles/price-vintage-part-2

Should get you a lot of the info you want.  I have another article coming out in the next couple of weeks along the same lines.  Some of the prices may be a little out of date now, due to flashback drafts bring some MTGO cards down in price.

[gkraigher]

In the description of Vintage Masters on the wiki.mtgsalvation site, it says some cards from the upcoming Conspiracy set will also be included in Vintage Masters.

It sounds like there willl be Legacy/Vintage playables in conspiracy (as well as unglued style cards which will be banned), so this is something to look forward too.  Both sets get released in early June. 

[AmbivalentDuck]

It sounds like there willl be Legacy/Vintage playables in conspiracy (as well as unglued style cards which will be banned), so this is something to look forward too.  Both sets get released in early June.

It's not clear WHY they're banned. Ie. These could be snow duals, snow moxen, arcane Ancestral/Time Walk, etc. All that's clear is that this is the largest addition to the banlist from a single set ever. There aren't even this many ante cards. My bet is that these cards are being printed to go straight to EDH since there's no other compelling reason to print a card solely for limited and then immediately ban it.

What's more interesting is that they feel the need to print some Conspiracy cards in Vintage Masters. Given what we know about its power level, this means that some cards in Conspiracy are strong enough to compete with Vintage cards in limited AND will likely find their way into cardboard Vintage decks.

Also, it's a fair bet that the reprint cards in Conspiracy will look like Commander: the Stapling.