Bazaar of Moxen coverage

[Smmenen]

Sad that I wasn't able to watch this.  

http://www.bazaar-of-moxen.com/en/index.html

214 Vintage players.  

Looks like Jace/ oath finals.

[JPoJohnson]

Sad that I wasn't able to watch this.  

http://www.bazaar-of-moxen.com/en/index.html

214 Vintage players.  

Looks like Jace/ oath finals.

Was it broadcast at all?

[Smmenen]

Yeah, on twitch tv. Link is there.

[Saya]

Has BUG won?

[psu42]

I believe it was the Tezzeret deck that won.  Oath transform in board, without Forbidden Orchards (or at least he never drew any and I saw several rounds).

[Saya]

I believe it was the Tezzeret deck that won.  Oath transform in board, without Forbidden Orchards (or at least he never drew any and I saw several rounds).

Please tell me in detail.Near the end of the game,I saw 2 oath of druid was on board.What creature has he put from them?

[Varal]

I believe it was the Tezzeret deck that won.  Oath transform in board, without Forbidden Orchards (or at least he never drew any and I saw several rounds).

Please tell me in detail.Near the end of the game,I saw 2 oath of druid was on board.What creature has he put from them?

Rune-Scarred Demon. He decided not to reveal cards with the second trigger.

[psu42]

I never saw the list, but he was on camera a few rounds.  He definitely played Tinker and Blightsteel Colossus in the main.  I think he just sideboarded in 1 Rune-Scarred Demon.  There was a game where he only Oathed once and had Colossus in hand, so I'm assuming 1 Demon for this reason.

[Demagoguery]

I never saw the list, but he was on camera a few rounds.  He definitely played Tinker and Blightsteel Colossus in the main.  I think he just sideboarded in 1 Rune-Scarred Demon.  There was a game where he only Oathed once and had Colossus in hand, so I'm assuming 1 Demon for this reason.

From what I know he had 2 Demons and 1 Colossus post board. You might be thinking of the game where he Toxic Deluged against UR Delver but didn't trigger Oath since he wanted to draw the Swan Song on top, it didn't really make sense though :/.

[JPoJohnson]

I never saw the list, but he was on camera a few rounds.  He definitely played Tinker and Blightsteel Colossus in the main.  I think he just sideboarded in 1 Rune-Scarred Demon.  There was a game where he only Oathed once and had Colossus in hand, so I'm assuming 1 Demon for this reason.

From what I know he had 2 Demons and 1 Colossus post board. You might be thinking of the game where he Toxic Deluged against UR Delver but didn't trigger Oath since he wanted to draw the Swan Song on top, it didn't really make sense though :/.

Yeah, that game was very odd. Subpar since he had the game in the bag (especially if he had paid 2 for Deluge) but it turned out ok in the end since he took the W

[JACO]

It was Grixis Snap/Confidant control losing to Tezz with Oath + Rune-Scarred Demons in the sideboard (probably similar to the lists that have done well in LCV past year or two but didn't appear quite as Turbo-ey). Gwen did have at least 1 Forbidden Orchard in his sideboard, which you can barely make out while he is siding in his round 8 feature match against UR Delver at 39.41 here. From what I can make out of the video his sideboard looks roughly like this:
2 Hurkyl's Recall
3 Swan Song
1 Misdirection
1 Flusterstorm
1 Forbidden Orchard
2 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Oath of Druids
1 Nihil Spellbomb

So he was playing some Swan Songs instead of the extra Orchards, both to trigger Oath as well as to have more controlling game when needed. Hopefully we'll have the lists in the next week or so.

[Saya]

Oh,TezOath means Tezzeret whose sideboard is Oath.

http://www.bazaar-of-moxen.com/en/bazaar-of-moxen-coverage-bom9,24/vintage-main-event-decklists,c153.html

Now we have top8 decklists!
...hard to read

[ErtaiAdept]

Oh,TezOath means Tezzeret whose sideboard is Oath.

http://www.bazaar-of-moxen.com/en/bazaar-of-moxen-coverage-bom9,24/vintage-main-event-decklists,c153.html

Now we have top8 decklists!
...hard to read

I really like the Tezz-Oath list, but it seems a little weak to dredge.  Is the plan to just load up post board on as many combos as possible and hope you can race them?

On another note, anyone able to watch the replays?  I can't get twitch to load them.

[NiRVeS]

I was the Doomsday-guy losing his win and in for top 8 on the BoM9 stream.
Link: http://www.twitch.tv/bazaar_of_moxen/b/525801678 (match from 1:36:30 to 2:01:00, although the games are pretty uninteresting).

For those who watched the match: I definitely punted the first game by not going for a pass the turn pile when I was at 10 life. I was in a tunnel-vision mindset where I was hoping to topdeck a cantrip/Gush in order to immediately Doomsday and kill my oppponent without having to pass the turn, because against BUG Fish, pass the turn-piles are generally super dangerous. You need to go for a Maniac-kill (not enough storm for tendrils) and they have a lot of stuff which could mess you up. Only when I looked at my scorepad after dropping to 7, I realised that I had lost the opportunity to just go for it and hope for the best - my opponent apparently didn't have anything, so it would've been worth it.

A possible pile would have been:

(2 life after getting hit by the Clique from 5 life post DD, 2 USea + Island + Mox Jet for mana):

Gush
Gush
Duress
Brainstorm (or other cantrip)
Laboratory Maniac

Draw Gush. Altcast Gush floating UU; Jet into Duress to clear any counterspell/removal spell; replay land; Gush again floating UU (UUUU total); cast Maniac and Brainstorm FTW.

There probably a pile which doesn't lose to wasteland too, but I don't feel like looking for it right now.

I could (and will) blame fatigue (played all 3 main events over the weekend) and being stressed because I have no previous experience playing on stream. But in reality I just messed up badly and feel disappointed in myself for doing so.

The second game, I kept a one-lander + petal with Brainstorm, Doomsday, Time Walk, Vampiric and Demonic Tutor. I don't really like those type of opening hands against UBx decks, preferring the more controlling hands with discard and/or counters to be able to go for a safe kill later in the game (being turn 3 or 4). But mulliganing away that amount of sheer power didn't seem right either, and Brainstorm could go a long way to help me get to some disruption and an extra land. He Strip Mines me and I Brainstorm with the floating blue to search for more lands, drawing into two fetches and a FoW. I decided to get rid of the Doomsday (because going all-in on that would risk me getting blown out hard), instead opting to try and assemble a Yawg's Will chain. Unfortunately, him follwing up with Deathrite Shaman off the Mox risks messing up that plan. Because my opponent taps low for Demonic on turn 2, however, I decide to go for it anyway, hoping my Force of Will (pitching Time Walk) suffices to force things through. I know this is unlikely, given he probably has Flusterstorm, but I didn't like my chances against active Deathrite Shaman and more open mana (after Demonic Tutoring) if he had the Flusterstorm anyway, and I could still hope to try again later through Doomsday, since the losing the Yawg.Will and the tutors would still allow me to go off with Gush-Maniac Doomsday piles. It didn't pan out, since he did have the flusterstorm for my Will, but given the amount of disruption my opponent had, it seems unlikely for me to have won that second game anyway.

I could write up a more elaborate report of the event if anyone's interested.

I just watched some of the coverage again. Pretty unfortunate that the coverage guys didn't do my deck much justice. Another teammate (Sander Hendrickx) top 8'ed the BoM8 Event with almost the same list (and could have won all 3 games of the quarterfinals by constructing different piles), and the combined win ratio of our 3 players piloting it (myself, Sander and Bart, who went T32 at BoM9) is pretty insane over just the last year. So at least to us, the deck seems really strong, despite Raph Levy's claims on the stream. Among other things, he correctly assesses the combo's weakness to Flusterstorm, but fails to credit the presence of a full set of discardspells and our own Flusterstorms to combat it.

I guess if someone ever gets the chance to play Doomsday on stream at a feature event, he should offer to do a decktech on it to explain some of the finesses of this machine that were missed this time around.

I will agree with my opponent's (and Raph's) statement that some of my adversaries during the swiss were unexperienced playing against Doomsday, and may have played suboptimal because of it. However, I did feel like I played pretty good during the tournament (7-2, with 2 byes from winning a trial with the deck in Brussels) - it's just a pity I didn't get to show much of it on the stream.

I ended up in 11th place, earning a Tropical Island for my troubles. Hardly spectacular, but it still marks my best BoM result up to this day.

The sour taste of punting that first game did end up getting washed away when my teammate lucksacked skillfully plowed his way through the top 8, winning the whole shabang with the Tezzerator deck he brewed up during breakfast. Bart, our second Doomsday pilot, ended in the T32, scoring an Italian Mana Drain. Our final 2 other players were on MUD, but both dropped early. But with such a great haul, it seems safe to say that this was a very good BoM for our team .

Thanks for reading,

Tom

[AmbivalentDuck]

I'm particularly interested in your list. Can you post in one of the doomsday threads?

[Varal]

I found it weird for them to completely dismiss your deck because of your last game performance. You don't get to play a win and in if your deck is terrible.

[NiRVeS]

I found it weird for them to completely dismiss your deck because of your last game performance. You don't get to play a win and in if your deck is terrible.

Thanks for caring. Duly appreciated.

I'm particularly interested in your list. Can you post in one of the doomsday threads?

Your wish has been granted.

[H]

In the last game of the finals there was definitely some odd and subpar plays made on both sides as far as I saw.

Did anyone catch what the Grixis player DTed for each time?  I am not sure what he got but resolving two of them should really have been game over.  The Oath player, when he drew the second Oath, really shouldn't have Forced back.  He already got a 2 for 1, he can just use the last green and his Pearl to play the second Oath.  Having two Oaths on board is pretty useless.

[Bakalias]

Agreed.

Regarding the DT, as far as I know, it was Lotus and FoW.
As I don't know what was on Lalaïna's hand, I can't say for sure that those weren't good choices, but indeed, going for something more aggressive looks better against an opponent mulliganing to 5 with 2 cards in his hand.

[ErtaiAdept]

Agreed.

Regarding the DT, as far as I know, it was Lotus and FoW.
As I don't know what was on Lalaïna's hand, I can't say for sure that those weren't good choices, but indeed, going for something more aggressive looks better against an opponent mulliganing to 5 with 2 cards in his hand.

One of them was definitely FoW.  That was the second one.  I would have imagined that the first would have got something like recall.  I'm not sure why he went for lotus.

[Albarkhane]

The decklists for the main vintage are here :
http://www.bazaar-of-moxen.com/en/bazaar-of-moxen-coverage-bom9,24/bom9-vintage-main-event,c152.html

The decklists for the vintage trials are here (mixed with other formats so one has to search in the page) :
http://www.bazaar-of-moxen.com/en/bazaar-of-moxen-coverage-bom9,24/bom9-decklists,c143.html

[nedleeds]

Hopefully these will get cut up and put on YouTube, the Twitch prior casts feature is garbage and some of the videos are showing up as Not Found.

[DubDub]

Hopefully these will get cut up and put on YouTube, the Twitch prior casts feature is garbage and some of the videos are showing up as Not Found.

I think the links on mtgcoverage.com are working (they point to specific timestamps in the continuous twitch stream).

[NosferatuStuff]

LALAÏNA's 2nd place deck is only 57 cards.
ANTON's 5th place deck includes 4x Yawgmoth's Will.
TIM's 8th place deck is only 59 cards.

Any way to get the correct decklists for these 3?

[hashswag]

LALAÏNA's 2nd place deck is only 57 cards.
ANTON's 5th place deck includes 4x Yawgmoth's Will.
TIM's 8th place deck is only 59 cards.

Any way to get the correct decklists for these 3?

 

And here I am playing extra cantrips like a chump...

[nedleeds]

Hopefully these will get cut up and put on YouTube, the Twitch prior casts feature is garbage and some of the videos are showing up as Not Found.

I think the links on mtgcoverage.com are working (they point to specific timestamps in the continuous twitch stream).

It's hit or miss with Twitch. But watching this guy not pay for his Sphere of Resistance twice then another time in the next game all while his opponent acknowledges and pays is making me want to vomit.

[Demagoguery]

Hopefully these will get cut up and put on YouTube, the Twitch prior casts feature is garbage and some of the videos are showing up as Not Found.

I think the links on mtgcoverage.com are working (they point to specific timestamps in the continuous twitch stream).

It's hit or miss with Twitch. But watching this guy not pay for his Sphere of Resistance twice then another time in the next game all while his opponent acknowledges and pays is making me want to vomit.

I honestly can't tell if he's malicious or just a space cadet, since one game he named Mox Ruby with his Revoker and then proceeded to tap it for mana when his Sapphire wasn't used for anything. He was informed of this on like the next turn and swapped the two, but there's no advantage he could have gained from tapping one over the other and then passing. Then in the next round, after missing the sphere twice, he plays Mox, Mox, Workshop, taps all three, plays a Sphere and then goes to play another card but stops. The following turn he plays Metamorph, which I'm assuming was his intent the previous turn and realised he couldn't due to the sphere being out, but forgets to pay the one?

During the stream people who knew him did say he tended to be very sloppy in play as a whole.

[nedleeds]

It's not sloppy, it's a rapid fire of GRVs that should have had him out of the event long before making top 8. I won't definitively judge intent but I typically assume the worst, especially when his opponent is *actually* cognizant of the sphere (pays 2 for Nature's Claim to remove the magic opponents only sphere!). Why does he think Claim costs 2? If he did notice and didn't inform a judge of his underpayment then that's cheating. One can only assume from those two matches it was happening all day, intent is more difficult of course to discern.

[den_rudy]

In the last game of the finals there was definitely some odd and subpar plays made on both sides as far as I saw.

Did anyone catch what the Grixis player DTed for each time?  I am not sure what he got but resolving two of them should really have been game over.  The Oath player, when he drew the second Oath, really shouldn't have Forced back.  He already got a 2 for 1, he can just use the last green and his Pearl to play the second Oath.  Having two Oaths on board is pretty useless.

Hi, i was one of his teammates was in Bom with the oath player.

The reason he forced was the following:

After double Demonic Gwen thought his opponent certainly had at least another counterspell. He was actually playing around force, drain + flusterstorm.
In this case when Gwen forces, and opponent drains, than he can drop his second oath through the flusterstorm.
If he doesn't force there, his opponents possible flusterstorm+drain is live for his second oath.

In the end it wasn't needed.

Although he made during the day some strange plays (and misplays) this was rather a smart play to make in the end of a long day.

[Smmenen]

Have the videos been placed on Youtube yet?  

Also, is there a way to view the videos on Apple devices, like an Ipad?  Twitch doesn't seem to have them archived on the Ipad app?  Help would be greatly appreciated.

I can view them here: http://www.twitch.tv/bazaar_of_moxen/b/525801678

But it won't load on my Ipad.

I'm trying to watch these videos to report on them for the So Many Insane Plays podcast.