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« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2015, 07:15:14 pm »

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« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2015, 09:55:49 pm »

Is anybody planning to do Video Coverage? I'm just curious; I'd totally understand if it were deemed too expensive or time consuming with the price on power and the hassle of renting a venue.
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« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2015, 09:58:28 am »

Is anybody planning to do Video Coverage? I'm just curious; I'd totally understand if it were deemed too expensive or time consuming with the price on power and the hassle of renting a venue.

Working on it, more diligently than last year.  Waiting on a quote for hard line internet access.  I'd be able to borrow the equipment, I think.  I also have none of the requisite skills for setting this up, or getting this running. 

That said, I've made it known in the past that video coverage is not my first concern, and this will continue to be true moving forward.  There are some very real costs associated with this, and none of it adds to the prize support, the venue, the compensation for the staff, etc.  I am trying to run the best event possible for the people who came to play.  While the people who didn't show are on my mind, they're not my primary focus and I will not make undue sacrifices on behalf of those who showed for those who didn't. 

I'm sorry if that comes off as combative (I swear it isn't meant that way), but it is my honest assessment of video coverage.

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« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2015, 12:08:13 pm »

I'm fine without. I can take pics with my phone between rounds, but it seems unnecessary to have commentators and video coverage and a half time show... Just come to the tournament
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« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2015, 12:21:09 pm »

Ramrodjon, as the first pre-registrant for the N.Y.S.E. Open, you have won a German Urza's Saga Karn, Silver Golem.  Congratulations!
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« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2015, 12:48:06 pm »


Working on it, more diligently than last year.  Waiting on a quote for hard line internet access.  I'd be able to borrow the equipment, I think.  I also have none of the requisite skills for setting this up, or getting this running. 

That said, I've made it known in the past that video coverage is not my first concern, and this will continue to be true moving forward.  There are some very real costs associated with this, and none of it adds to the prize support, the venue, the compensation for the staff, etc.  I am trying to run the best event possible for the people who came to play.  While the people who didn't show are on my mind, they're not my primary focus and I will not make undue sacrifices on behalf of those who showed for those who didn't. 

I'm sorry if that comes off as combative (I swear it isn't meant that way), but it is my honest assessment of video coverage.
Of Course not; running an event like this seems very difficult. Thanks for the response.
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« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2015, 05:20:34 pm »

Ramrodjon, as the first pre-registrant for the N.Y.S.E. Open, you have won a German Urza's Saga Karn, Silver Golem.  Congratulations!
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« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2015, 09:43:17 am »

Pre-reg complete.  Can't wait!
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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2015, 11:36:51 am »

If you guys wouldn't mind, I'd really appreciate it if you'd vote in the following poll:

http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=47186.0

I haven't done anything like this in the past, and I want to gauge interest.  If you're interested, great.  If not, still great. 
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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2015, 04:24:28 pm »

Preregistered and really looking forward to this. Hopefully it is the biggest and best N.Y.S.E. Open to date!
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« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2015, 12:54:34 am »

Is anybody planning to do Video Coverage? I'm just curious; I'd totally understand if it were deemed too expensive or time consuming with the price on power and the hassle of renting a venue.

Working on it, more diligently than last year.  Waiting on a quote for hard line internet access.  I'd be able to borrow the equipment, I think.  I also have none of the requisite skills for setting this up, or getting this running.  

That said, I've made it known in the past that video coverage is not my first concern, and this will continue to be true moving forward.  There are some very real costs associated with this, and none of it adds to the prize support, the venue, the compensation for the staff, etc.  I am trying to run the best event possible for the people who came to play.  While the people who didn't show are on my mind, they're not my primary focus and I will not make undue sacrifices on behalf of those who showed for those who didn't.  

I'm sorry if that comes off as combative (I swear it isn't meant that way), but it is my honest assessment of video coverage.



This was my number 1 suggestion coming out of the first NYSE feedback thread, and since it's been brought up, I'll reiterate what I see are the upsides.

The NYSE is now probably the second most important US paper Vintage tournament.  I think it's important that people outside of Vintage circles know about this tournament, and that it exists.  There is no doubt that the number one best way to get exposure is through webcast.  To me, it's about building the NYSE Open Brand.  Streamed video helps that tremendously, and will help grow the tournament year after year.  It's true, it doesn't increase prizes, etc - but over time, it actually could.  You can reach audiences who aspire to attend the next one. 

I realize there are costs, but the video can be scaled/simplified to minimize costs.  The Team Serious Open guys, starting a few years ago, just hung a mic and camera above a table, and streamed video.  All they needed was a low-quality web-cam, a cord, and internet access.  They didn't even need anyone to monitor it - it can just be a live feed.  

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« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2015, 02:33:34 pm »

Is anybody planning to do Video Coverage? I'm just curious; I'd totally understand if it were deemed too expensive or time consuming with the price on power and the hassle of renting a venue.

Working on it, more diligently than last year.  Waiting on a quote for hard line internet access.  I'd be able to borrow the equipment, I think.  I also have none of the requisite skills for setting this up, or getting this running. 

That said, I've made it known in the past that video coverage is not my first concern, and this will continue to be true moving forward.  There are some very real costs associated with this, and none of it adds to the prize support, the venue, the compensation for the staff, etc.  I am trying to run the best event possible for the people who came to play.  While the people who didn't show are on my mind, they're not my primary focus and I will not make undue sacrifices on behalf of those who showed for those who didn't. 

I'm sorry if that comes off as combative (I swear it isn't meant that way), but it is my honest assessment of video coverage.



This was my number 1 suggestion coming out of the first NYSE feedback thread, and since it's been brought up, I'll reiterate what I see are the upsides.

The NYSE is now probably the second most important US paper Vintage tournament.  I think it's important that people outside of Vintage circles know about this tournament, and that it exists.  There is no doubt that the number one best way to get exposure is through webcast.  To me, it's about building the NYSE Open Brand.  Streamed video helps that tremendously, and will help grow the tournament year after year.  It's true, it doesn't increase prizes, etc - but over time, it actually could.  You can reach audiences who aspire to attend the next one. 

I realize there are costs, but the video can be scaled/simplified to minimize costs.  The Team Serious Open guys, starting a few years ago, just hung a mic and camera above a table, and streamed video.  All they needed was a low-quality web-cam, a cord, and internet access.  They didn't even need anyone to monitor it - it can just be a live feed. 



How would looking for a sponsor change things? I know some stores are always open to getting publicity and all it would take is their logo on the stream somewhere and maybe run a few commercials on downtime (could even be just a title card with shop info.) OBS is relatively easy to operate and just having a few scenes to switch to set up would make things very easy.  Commentators might be hard to come by but I think finding some high end players who couldn't make it to do remote coverage would work decently.  Even with some lag it would still be effective.
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« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2015, 03:12:34 pm »

I realize there are costs, but the video can be scaled/simplified to minimize costs.  The Team Serious Open guys, starting a few years ago, just hung a mic and camera above a table, and streamed video.  All they needed was a low-quality web-cam, a cord, and internet access.  They didn't even need anyone to monitor it - it can just be a live feed.
As one of the Team Serious guys who has streamed and set this up before, I'll give a very brief breakdown, because it seems that there's less than a full understanding of the true costs involved at streaming an event from different sites, even if you seek to do it on the cheap.
- An extra decent laptop (probably already have among staff; let's say negligible cost)
- 1 or more HD webcams and the necessary cabling (let's say $100 each)
- any software you want to use (ranging from free to thousands of dollars, depending on what you are using and how professional you want it to be)
- High speed Internet access from the site you are hosting the tournament - this is the main cost. At a site like a hotel conference room or venue rental this can often run $1000+, which sounds asinine, but it is the sad truth. If Internet access were available and cheap everywhere at low cost rental venues (it's not) then this would not be an issue. Most cheap venues to rent don't offer Internet access or even have the possibility, and most very nice venues do offer it, at often exorbitant costs. You're not streaming from a wireless hotspot that someone sets up on their 4G smartphone (transmission would be garbled and choppy at best, and basically worthless); you need a bonafide high speed Internet connection, and that cost often proves prohibitive (which is why you didn't see streaming from NYSE Open 1 and 2).

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« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2015, 06:36:26 pm »

Preregistered and very excited about it. Having played competitive Vintage since only the beginning of the year, this will be by far the biggest event I've been to. I am happy to be able to contribute to the prize pool for the better players. Wink
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« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2015, 01:47:44 pm »

IMHO I would rather have delayed but high quality coverage than shitty live expensive streaming. Thus on site, having a couple of commentators and a good rig and camera and just worry about capturing each match well. If the vids are on YouTube by Wednesday theres no huge loss, and they can serve as endless discussion points ( unless both people play like donkeys Smile ).
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« Reply #45 on: March 01, 2015, 10:46:43 am »

With regards to the video, I'll do what I can.



More giveaways for N.Y.S.E. Open III.  Definitely a cool piece of Magic history.
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« Reply #46 on: March 01, 2015, 10:57:17 am »

Also, the pre-registration list has been updated.
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« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2015, 03:11:04 pm »

I cannot wait! Last year was great, though I must say the lineup for the year looks amazing! [Hopefully I do better].
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« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2015, 11:23:48 am »

I'm trying to get ahold of Greg, in regards to buying a matt.  Under his profile I don't see a spot to send him a PM.  Is there another way? 
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« Reply #49 on: March 09, 2015, 01:11:31 pm »

I'm trying to get ahold of Greg, in regards to buying a matt.  Under his profile I don't see a spot to send him a PM.  Is there another way? 

It's there, hiding at the bottom.

Anyway, I made a new link for you, so just lick here to message him
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« Reply #50 on: March 11, 2015, 10:57:10 am »

I can't wait for this! I expect this to be the best event for the third year in a row!
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« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2015, 09:18:19 am »

We've added Jeff Menges to the schedule, as Jeff will be appearing on Sunday morning at The Comic Book Depot!

I've also updated the Miscellaneous section with a few important notes.  Please read it if you intend on attending.
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« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2015, 06:25:30 pm »

Nick I am disappointed that you haven't added my donated prize to the list yet....
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« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2015, 07:00:40 pm »

Nick I am disappointed that you haven't added my donated prize to the list yet....

I'm trying to save good news and space it out! Shortly!
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« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2015, 03:56:28 pm »

I just saw the preliminary of the image for this year's mat, and I think it's the best that Greg has ever done.

I can't wait to share it.
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« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2015, 11:39:32 am »

Waiting on getting a proper car together before pre-registering, but hope to be there. Last year was very well done
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« Reply #56 on: March 17, 2015, 12:28:32 pm »

Waiting on getting a proper car together before pre-registering, but hope to be there. Last year was very well done.

It would be good to see you there, Matt.

In other news, I was just sent the final version of the playmat image for this year's event:



This is, hands down, my favorite of the three N.Y.S.E. mats that Greg has done.  The D.T. looks absolutely unreal.  Plus, Lodestone looks like he's tearing down an Oath tree, which is a narrative dear to my heart...

Greg does incredible work.  These mats were sold out in less than 30 minutes last year.  If you're interested in a mat, I highly recommend speaking with Greg before the event.  
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« Reply #57 on: March 17, 2015, 02:59:49 pm »

In other news, I was just sent the final version of the playmat image for this year's event:



This is, hands down, my favorite of the three N.Y.S.E. mats that Greg has done.  The D.T. looks absolutely unreal.  Plus, Lodestone looks like he's tearing down an Oath tree, which is a narrative dear to my heart...

Greg does incredible work.  These mats were sold out in less than 30 minutes last year.  If you're interested in a mat, I highly recommend speaking with Greg before the event.  

Wow... What a beautiful playmat! Great work Greg! (Definitely put me down for one Smile)
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« Reply #58 on: March 20, 2015, 08:18:14 am »

After much back and forth, and considerable expense, there will be live streaming of the N.Y.S.E. Open.  There are a few people to thank, but Mike Lupo is first among them.

The cost on this event is considerable.  It would be greatly appreciated if those reading this post were willing to spread the word of the event, and help us hit the goal of 150 players.  I do not run these events as a for-profit venture, as I hope the prize support reflects.  I need the support of the community in order to keep running them.
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« Reply #59 on: March 20, 2015, 09:16:56 am »

It would be greatly appreciated if those reading this post were willing to spread the word of the event, and help us hit the goal of 150 players.  I do not run these events as a for-profit venture, as I hope the prize support reflects.  I need the support of the community in order to keep running them.

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