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« on: May 28, 2015, 11:40:43 am » |
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Here are the decklists for the second trimester:
Matthew Gottshall
Gott Delver?
4 Volcanic Island
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Flooded Strand
1 Tundra
1 Island
Strip Mine
Black Lotus
Mox Sapphire
Mox Ruby
4 Young Pyromancer
4 Delver of Secrets
1 Dack Fayden
4 Force of Will
4 Mental Misstep
3 Pyroblast
4 Preordain
4 Gitaxian Probe
3 Gush
3 Dig Through Time
Ponder
Brainstorm
Treasure Cruise
Ancestral Recall
4 Lightning Bolt
Time Walk
Sideboard:
4 Ingot Chewer
3 Grafdigger's Cage
3 Containment Priest
2 Sudden Shock
2 Null Rod
1 Mountain
Brian Kelly
Benevolent Dragonlord Oath
Black Lotus
Mox Sapphire
Mox Ruby
Mox Pearl
Mox Jet
Mox Emerald
Mana Crypt
Sol Ring
Mana Vault
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Pyrite Spellbomb
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Sensei's Divining Top
Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Oath of Druids
2 Auriok Salvagers
1 Dragonlord Dromoka
1 Griselbrand
2 Force of Will
2 Mental Misstep
2 Flusterstorm
Ancestral Recall
Brainstorm
1 Repeal
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Dig Through Time
1 Ancient Grudge
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Gitaxian Probe
Time Walk
Demonic Tutor
Ponder
Yawgmoth's Will
4 Forbidden Orchard
2 Mana Confluence
2 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
1 Tundra
1 Underground Sea
1 Tropical Island
1 Island
1 Cavern of Souls
Library of Alexandria
Tolarian Academy
Sideboard:
2 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Tormod's Crypt
2 Nature's Claim
1 Notion Thief
1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Magus of the Moat
1 Steel Sabotage
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Tinker
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
James Saltsman
Black Lotus
Mana Crypt
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
4 Chalice of the Void
Sol Ring
3 Sphere of Resistance
4 Phyrexian Revoker
4 Thorn of Amethyst
Trinisphere
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Kuldotha Forgemaster
1 Duplicant
1 Steel Hellkite
1 Sundering Titan
Strip Mine
Tolarian Academy
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Wasteland
1 Triskelion
2 Phyrexian Metamorph
4 Tangle Wire
4 Mishra's Factory
Sideboard
3 Crucible of Worlds
3 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Dismember
1 Duplicant
1 Triskelion
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Batterskull
1 Witchbane Orb
Tom Dixon
4 Undiscovered Paradise
4 Bazaar of Baghdad
1 Dakmor Salvage
4 Narcomoeba
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
4 Bloodghast
4 Ingot Chewer
4 Ichorid
3 Golgari Thug
1 Flame-Kin Zealot
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Dread Return
4 Serum Powder
4 Bridge from Below
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
3 Petrified Field
3 Unmask
1 Mana Confluence
Sideboard
4 Sudden Shock
4 Nature's Claim
4 Chain of Vapor
3 Serenity
Sean Ottaway
4 Goblin Welder
4 Dack Fayden
4 Force of Will
4 Mental Misstep
Ponder
Brainstorm
3 Dig Through Time
Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
1 Pyroblast
2 Punishing Fire
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Ancestral Recall
Time Walk
2 Flusterstorm
1 Spell Snare
1 Misdirection
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Relic of Progenitus
Mox Ruby
Mox Jet
Mox Sapphire
Mox Emerald
Mox Pearl
2 Grove of the Burnwillows
Black Lotus
1 Island
1 Mountain
1 Seat of the Synod
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Volcanic Island
1 Polluted Delta
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Tropical Island
2 Wasteland
Sol Ring
Sideboard
4 Sudden Shock
4 Gragdigger's Cage
2 Tormod's Crypt
2 Naturalize
3 Ingot Chewer
Stormanimagus
2 Arcbound Ravager
4 Lodestone Golem
3 Smokestack
4 Tangle Wire
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Ancient Tomb
Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
Tolarian Academy
2 Karn, Silver Golem
2 Coercive Portal
3 Crucible of Worlds
Trinisphere
4 Chalice of the Void
Black Lotus
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
3 Phyrexian Revoker
Sol Ring
Mana Crypt
4 Buried Ruin
2 Wurmcoil Engine
Sideboard
3 Grafdigger's Cage
2 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
2 Thorn of Amethyst
2 Pithing Needle
2 Razormane Masticore
1 Arcbound Ravager
1 Coercive Portal
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Ghost Quarter
MaximumCDawg
The White Gate
2 Abyssal Persecutor
4 Dark Confidant
4 Gatekeeper of Malakir
3 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Vampire Nighthawk
3 Bloodstained Mire
4 Marsh Flats
1 Plains
2 Scrubland
4 Swamp
1 Verdant Catacombs
4 Wasteland
1 Batterskull
1 Bitterblossom
2 Cabal Therapy
4 Hymn to Tourach
3 Innocent Blood
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Vindicate
Mox Jet
Black Lotus
Sol Ring
Strip Mine
2 Liliana of the Veil
1 Bojuka Bog
Sideboard
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Illness in the Ranks
4 Snuff Out
3 Grafdigger's Cage
Wappla
Esper Dragons
Black Lotus
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Emerald
Mox Sapphire
Mox Jet
Sol Ring
3 Tundra
3 Underground Sea
2 Island
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Flooded Strand
Library of Alexandria
3 Gush
3 Preordain
2 Dig Through Time
Treasure Cruise
Brainstorm
Ponder
Ancestral Recall
Demonic Tutor
Time Walk
4 Force of Will
3 Mental Misstep
2 Flusterstorm
2 Mana Drain
3 Moat
3 Duress
4 Dragonlord Ojutai
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Liliana of the Veil
Sideboard
3 Containment Priest
3 Tormod's Crypt
3 Steel Sabotage
2 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Swords to Plowshares
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1 Thoughtseize
White Lotus
Neo Academy
4 Seat of the Synod
4 Glimmervoid
1 Mana Confluence
Library of Alexandria
Tolarian Academy
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
4 Expedition Map
3 Defense Grid
2 Candelabra of Tawnos
2 Mox Opal
Black Lotus
Mana Crypt
Mana Vault
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
1 Sensei's Divining Top
Sol Ring
Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
1 Tezzeret the Seeker
2 Mind Over Matter
2 Stroke of Genius
2 Abeyance
Ancestral Recall
Vampiric Tutor
4 Preordain
4 Thoughtcast
4 Time Spiral
Demonic Tutor
Imperial Seal
Ponder
Timetwister
Sideboard
4 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Ancient Grudge
2 Ancient Tomb
2 Pithing Needle
2 Grafdigger's cage
1 Abeyance
1 Defense Grid
Balance
David Kaplan
4 Volcanic Island
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Misty Rainforest
2 Island
Strip Mine
Library of Alexandria
Black Lotus
Mox Sapphire
Mox Ruby
4 Young Pyromancer
4 Delver of Secrets
2 Dack Fayden
4 Force of Will
4 Mental Misstep
2 Spell Pierce
1 Pyroblast
4 Preordain
2 Gitaxian Probe
3 Gush
3 Dig Through Time
Ponder
Brainstorm
Treasure Cruise
Ancestral Recall
4 Lightning Bolt
Time Walk
Sideboard:
4 Ingot Chewer
3 Karakas
2 Sudden Shock
2 Shattering Spree
1 Pyroblast
1 Sulfur Elemtental
1 Flusterstorm
1 Mountain
Looks like a very exciting set of lists and an exciting trimester. Good Luck to all!
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vaughnbros
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2015, 12:20:10 pm » |
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Is it possible to remove the spaces between each card? Its not exactly readable as it.
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msg67183
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2015, 12:21:36 pm » |
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I tried that. It's very cumbersome on a smart phone. I will try to get this taken care of next time I'm on my laptop.
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vaughnbros
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2015, 12:24:34 pm » |
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I tried that. It's very cumbersome on a smart phone. I will try to get this taken care of next time I'm on my laptop.
Thank you. Are people submitting these to you with spaces or something?
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msg67183
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2015, 12:33:05 pm » |
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No it's my phone. I remove all the spaces and what not when I format them with my phone.
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wappla
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2015, 01:07:13 pm » |
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the lists are up here as well These lists reveal how awful a 3-week, 3 opponent format is for playing and for a metagame. It's basically Russian Roulette. Considering we're not a spectator sport like VSL, I think we should make significant changes in future seasons or even just right now.
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msg67183
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2015, 01:22:13 pm » |
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most of the lists are up here now as well These lists reveal how awful a 3-week, 3 opponent format is for playing and for a metagame. It's basically Russian Roulette. Considering we're not a spectator sport like VSL, I think we should make significant changes in future seasons or even just right now. Love the website! Looks awesome. I actually enjoy playing the Three Week, Three Opponent format. It tests the ability of the player to build a deck that either answers what is expected for the trimester, or to build a solid list for an unknown metagame. What are everyone else's thoughts?
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wappla
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2015, 01:26:33 pm » |
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The problem is that 3 matches against 3 random decks is not a metagame. It's a crapshoot that rewards decks that come at the format from an extreme angle rather than those that have decent matchups against the field.
The very high win rate of Merfolk, Oath, Blue Belcher and Workshops in the VSL is strong empirical evidence of this. Likewise, Mentor decks did awfully in the VSL format, but they are among the best performing decks in pretty much every real metagame.
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brianpk80
2015 Vintage World Champion
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2015, 02:08:16 pm » |
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The problem is that 3 matches against 3 random decks is not a metagame. It's a crapshoot that rewards decks that come at the format from an extreme angle rather than those that have decent matchups against the field.
The very high win rate of Merfolk, Oath, Blue Belcher and Workshops in the VSL is strong empirical evidence of this. Likewise, Mentor decks did awfully in the VSL format, but they are among the best performing decks in pretty much every real metagame.
I'm okay with the 3 opponent trimester set-up since it emulates the VSL. The comment above is intriguing though. I will say that the poor performance of the Mentor decks in VSL did come from some very bizarre deck building decisions, all respect, for instance 2 Caverns and Library with Gush, and then that "Discard Monastery Mentor".dec with almost no mana sources. I very much like the Quad laser Ojutai deck. I hope you win the next two matches.
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wappla
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2015, 09:05:21 pm » |
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The matchup vs C Dawg's edicts and black fliers deck is comically bad, but it'll have a chance vs Punishing Dack. The list is still rough and will probably end up at URW rather than UBW.
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WhiteLotus
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2015, 12:04:43 am » |
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Edit: sry posted in wrong thread.
These decklists are pretty sweet by the way. No more Mentor decks, yet still the same number of delver surprisingly enough.
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msg67183
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2015, 05:59:26 pm » |
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WhiteLotus, this needs to be moved to the other thread please. This is for decklists.
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