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Author Topic: Brain Freeze and Winning the Game  (Read 2391 times)
p3temangus
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« on: November 24, 2015, 10:44:33 am »

If there was an award for shear rule ignorance this post may win it, but here I go...

If you Brain Freeze for more cards than in your opponents deck do you win on the spot or do they have to "draw" a card to actually lose?
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2015, 11:23:52 am »

They have to go to draw and not be able to do so to lose.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2015, 12:12:02 am »

To clarify, they don't have to go to draw as in "draw step"...they just have to be unable to draw whenever required to (like ancestral recalling them after their library is emptied).
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2015, 03:39:31 pm »

If there was an award for shear rule ignorance this post may win it, but here I go...

If you Brain Freeze for more cards than in your opponents deck do you win on the spot or do they have to "draw" a card to actually lose?

Always good to quote the rules, so here is the the significant section
Quote from: Comprehensive Rules
102.3. There are several ways to lose the game.

102.3a A player can concede the game at any time. A player who concedes leaves the game immediately. He or she loses the game.

102.3b If a player's life total is 0 or less, he or she loses the game the next time a player would receive priority. (This is a state-based effect. See rule 420.)

102.3c When a player is required to draw more cards than are left in his or her library, he or she draws the remaining cards, and then loses the game the next time a player would receive priority. (This is a state-based effect. See rule 420.)

102.3d If a player has ten or more poison counters, he or she loses the game the next time a player would receive priority. (This is a state-based effect. See rule 420.)

Bolding mine.  So technically, once someone gains priority after someone has tried to draw from an empty library, they lose.
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