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« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2016, 03:13:12 pm »




Let me know if there is an error.  Guessed on some of the game losses
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« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2016, 03:15:47 pm »

Based on these results it's pretty clear we need to restrict bazaar and workshop.
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« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2016, 03:47:53 pm »

I should actually have 5 game losses
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« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2016, 07:30:57 pm »

Ok LeoJ, I fixed the data in the spreadsheet.

So everyone I spoke with was in favor of switching decks biweekly. Though I'm wondering if collecting decklists is even necessary.  MTGO prevents decklist cheating automatically. The only benefit to collecting decklists is to keep everyone locked into a particular list for 6 matches. But is this necessary?  What do you guys think?
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« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2016, 07:55:37 pm »

Ok LeoJ, I fixed the data in the spreadsheet.

So everyone I spoke with was in favor of switching decks biweekly. Though I'm wondering if collecting decklists is even necessary.  MTGO prevents decklist cheating automatically. The only benefit to collecting decklists is to keep everyone locked into a particular list for 6 matches. But is this necessary?  What do you guys think?

Switching decks is good, but switching between matches is probably not.
For instance if I strongly suspect my opponent is on dredge, I can run 15 hate cards if I wanted to.
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« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2016, 10:36:27 pm »

I had 3 game losses, one each match.
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« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2016, 01:18:49 am »

The list with Myth Realized and Wonder is awesome tech. No love for Anger? Smile
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« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2016, 10:53:04 am »

So we're not switching for this week coming? I was testing a few cards in my list that I wasn't sure about, and I'm now sure I hate them. So the sooner I can play a different deck the better.
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« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2016, 12:12:12 pm »

I wouldn't mind switching now, but then I'd have to get everyone's list in less than a day and I already broadcasted that we'd be switching next week.
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« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2016, 02:32:24 pm »

Week 2 Pairings:

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« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2016, 07:25:55 pm »

I wouldn't mind switching now, but then I'd have to get everyone's list in less than a day and I already broadcasted that we'd be switching next week.


Well then. Sounds like a plan. I should have chosen a different configuration for my deck, but it could be worse.
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« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2016, 08:06:19 pm »

Can we make it so we don't play the same person multiple times in one week in the future? Out of my 6 matches 3 of them will have been against joel. I don't mind, but I could see it getting miserable depending on the matchup.
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« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2016, 08:50:28 pm »

diophan, I could do that but then it wouldn't be random.  Obviously, this would occur far less often with more participants.  I thought some people would like it because then it's a little easier to schedule.  But if I get some more negative feedback about that, I will definitely change that for the future.

In the case of Vizzerdrix vs. Matori, their first match is because they're #1 vs. #2.  The second match is just random. 
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« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2016, 08:38:04 am »

Can we make it so we don't play the same person multiple times in one week in the future? Out of my 6 matches 3 of them will have been against joel. I don't mind, but I could see it getting miserable depending on the matchup.

But our first match was so fun. You don't want to run it back a couple times a week?  Very Happy
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« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2016, 03:59:30 pm »

I keep getting destroyed by matori's impressive deck. I've got Leoj in the queue. Desolutionist, what's the best time to meet and battle?
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« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2016, 05:09:13 pm »

I'm hawaii time. So you're pacific I believe. 4:30-9:30 pm for me, which is 6:30-11:30 pm for you
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« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2016, 02:11:20 am »

I keep getting destroyed by matori's impressive deck. I've got Leoj in the queue. Desolutionist, what's the best time to meet and battle?
Hehe, but matori is wrecked by vizzerdrix "traditional" dredge two times in a row. I really like your deck MtgVector. Its refreshing.
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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2016, 01:54:47 pm »

The list with Myth Realized and Wonder is awesome tech. No love for Anger? Smile

A bit of the history of this deck:

Originally it was UWR until Delver/Young Pyro decks became really popular. These decks were somewhat resilient to Supreme Veredict, and could block Myth Realized all day.
I moved to UWG, using Fastbond/Gush as a secondary win engine, and Berserk as evasion. This version was really really good for a while, until storm/doomsday combo decks started popping out. Green didn't do much to combat combo decks other than regrowth countermagic.
Then I moved back to UWR, and tried Wonder (while considering also Temur Battle Rage). It also answers main deck Moats. This version is less explosive than the Bant version, but a bit more consistent, and stronger vs. combo.

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« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2016, 12:50:31 am »

Ok guys, most of the results for this week are already in.  Please submit match results here.

Week 3 is starting so submit new deck lists here.

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« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2016, 05:25:18 pm »



I messed with the pairings a little bit this time.  If I didn't, there would be more repeats and some matches that wouldn't have happened otherwise.  We obviously need to tweak the pairings system for next season.  We're all in top 8 anyway... Smile



And don't forget to submit your new decklist!
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« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2016, 04:59:04 pm »

I'll be available EST Wednesday and Thursday evenings, in the afternoon on Saturday and Sunday, and possibly Saturday evening. If the_unseen, qernavak, and Sullivan could message me to arrange a day and time I'd appreciate it.
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« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2016, 07:50:55 pm »

Qernavak, could you message me?
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« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2016, 09:51:51 pm »

Desolutionist/Islandswamp when will you guys be available? I should be on tomorrow evening and available to play games, or later in the evening on Thursday. Feel free to PM me and let me know what works best for you.
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« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2016, 06:50:30 am »

Desolutionist/Islandswamp when will you guys be available? I should be on tomorrow evening and available to play games, or later in the evening on Thursday. Feel free to PM me and let me know what works best for you.

I'm only available in the evenings. Just message me on facebook and see if I'm available, I'm sure I can squeeze in a quick match at some point. Joe Fiorini (Islandswamp) on Facebook.
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« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2016, 03:53:40 pm »

Successfully finished last of my 3 matches tonight, all with 2-0 .
I really appreciate that you guys aligned with me due to time zone difficulties.
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« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2016, 04:05:31 pm »

Hey now, you went 2-1 in our match
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« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2016, 07:49:23 am »

Hey now, you went 2-1 in our match
Right, sorry was distracted...
2 x 2-0
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« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2016, 01:36:18 am »

It's single elimination from here on out.  Pairings are by seed: 1st plays 8th, 2nd plays 7th, and so on.  Here are the final standings:



Vizzerdrix vs. Islandswamp
matori vs. Qernavak
the_unseen vs. desolutionist
joel1031 vs. diophan

And here are the top 8 decklists:

Vizzerdrix - 1st seed

4 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Petrified Field
4 Undiscovered Paradise
2 Mana Confluence
1 Karakas
1 Riftstone Portal
4 Narcomoeba
4 Ichorid
4 Bloodghast
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Bridge from Below
2 Dread Return
1 Dragonlord Kolaghan
1 Ashen Rider
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Serum Powder
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
4 Stinkweed Imp
2 Golgari Thug
2 Dakmor Salvage

4 Ingot Chewer
4 Barbarian Ring
3 Wispmare
4 serenity

Matori - 2nd Seed


4 Chancellor of the Annex
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
3 Golgari Thug
4 Ichorid
4 Narcomoeba
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Bridge from Below
3 Dread Return
4 Force of Will
4 Mental Misstep
4 Mindbreak Trap
4 Serum Powder
4 Bazaar of Baghdad
1 Library of Alexandria
4 Petrified Field
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Dragonlord Kolaghan

4 Dark Depths
1 Riftstone Portal
4 Thespian's Stage
4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Vampire Hexmage

the_unseen-3rd seed

1 Trinisphere
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Tangle Wire
1 Strip Mine
4 Sphere of Resistance
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sol Ring
4 Phyrexian Revoker
2 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Null Rod
4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Batterskull
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Wasteland
1 Homeward Path
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Black Lotus
2 Triskelion
1 Mox Opal
2 Mutavault
1 Cavern of Souls

2 Tormod's Crypt
4 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Ghost Quarter
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1 Crucible of Worlds
2 Porcelain Legionnaire
2 Karakas
1 Serrated Arrows
1 Witchbane Orb

Joel1031-4th seed

1 Simian Spirit Guide
4   Gitaxian Probe
1   Mind's Desire
1   Timetwister
4   Dark Petition
1   Demonic Tutor
4   Duress
1   Tendrils of Agony
1   Yawgmoth's Will
1   Wheel of Fortune
1   Ponder
2   Cabal Therapy
1   Yawgmoth's Bargain
1   Necropotence
1   Sol Ring
1   Mox Sapphire
1   Mox Ruby
1   Mox Pearl
1   Mox Jet
1   Mox Emerald
1   Black Lotus
1   Lion's Eye Diamond
1   Lotus Petal *Foil*
1   Mana Crypt
1   Mana Vault
1   Defense Grid
4   Dark Ritual
1   Vampiric Tutor
1   Brainstorm
2   Hurkyl's Recall
2   Cabal Ritual
1   Ancestral Recall

1   Library of Alexandria
4   Polluted Delta
1   Tolarian Academy
4   Underground Sea
1   Bloodstained Mire
1   Swamp
1   Badlands

Sideboard (15)
2 Hurkyl's Recall
1   Swamp
3   Defense Grid
3   Ancient Tomb
1   Empty the Warrens
1   Mindbreak Trap
1   Ravenous Trap
1   Chain of Vapor
1   Illness in the Ranks
1   Island

diophan-5th seed

4 Underground Sea
1 Badlands
4 Dark Petition
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Polluted Delta
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Ponder
1 Simian Spirit Guide
1 Timetwister
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Necropotence
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Lotus Petal
1 Black Lotus
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
1 Defense Grid
2 Cabal Ritual
4 Dark Ritual
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Brainstorm
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Mind's Desire
1 Demonic Tutor
2 Cabal Therapy
1 Swamp
4 Duress

3 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Swamp
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Island
1 Ravenous Trap
4 Ancient Tomb
1 Yixlid Jailer
3 Defense Grid

desolutionist-6th seed

4 Chancellor of the Annex
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
3 Golgari Thug
4 Ichorid
4 Narcomoeba
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Bridge from Below
3 Dread Return
4 Force of Will
4 Mental Misstep
4 Mindbreak Trap
4 Serum Powder
4 Bazaar of Baghdad
1 Library of Alexandria
3 Petrified Field
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Dragonlord Kolaghan

3 Dark Depths
3 Leyline of Sanctity
4 Thespian's Stage
3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Vampire Hexmage

Qernavak-7th seed

2 Dack Fayden
4 Preordain
1 Time Walk
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Dig Through Time
1 Flusterstorm
3 Mental Misstep
1 Repeal
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Library of Alexandria
3 Polluted Delta
3 Tundra
1 Ponder
1 Swords to Plowshares
4 Force of Will
1 Mana Crypt
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Volcanic Island
3 Gush
1 Brainstorm
1 Strip Mine
4 Myth Realized
1 Balance
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Island
2 Monastery Mentor
1 Wonder
1 Supreme Verdict
1 Pyroblast
1 Mindbreak Trap

2 Grafdigger's Cage
3 Ingot Chewer
1 Rest in Peace
1 Energy Flux
4 Containment Priest
1 Mindbreak Trap
1 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Supreme Verdict

Islandswamp-8th seed

2 Tropical Island
4 Preordain
3 Show and Tell
1 Time Walk
1 Strip Mine
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Force of Will
1 Voltaic Key
1 Time Vault
4 Mental Misstep
1 Island
1 Mana Crypt
1 Black Lotus
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
2 Flusterstorm
4 Forbidden Orchard
1 Brainstorm
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
2 Underground Sea
3 Griselbrand
1 Lotus Petal
4 Oath of Druids
2 Thoughtseize
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Dig Through Time
1 Painful Truths
1 Hurkyl's Recall

2 Abrupt Decay
1 Toxic Deluge
4 Leyline of the Void
3 Nature's Claim
1 Pithing Needle
1 Forest
1 Arcane Laboratory
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Dragonlord Dromoka

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« Reply #58 on: January 25, 2016, 10:38:06 am »

Looks like I'm going to lose since we have the 60 card mirror but I'm down a foil lotus petal Razz

Are we letting higher seed pick play/draw or rolling?
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« Reply #59 on: January 25, 2016, 10:47:42 am »

Ha, didn't even realize it pulled the foil tag on there. Guess that's what I get for using MTGO export instead of copying manually. Razz
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