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Smmenen
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« on: January 18, 2004, 05:05:14 pm »

Comment on my Report and Commentary:

http://www.themanadrain.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5539

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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2004, 05:18:45 pm »

I was there watching this great match and I couldent have described it any better. If you dident make it this time, you missed some good times Very Happy  

Ray as always a wonderful job.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2004, 05:25:50 pm »

Nice report/analysis.

I totally agree that Green is becoming a very strong color. Players can invest $300 into cards like Bazaar of Baghdad, which allow them to play strong aggro decks. Hell, even budget Dragon can be effective in a 5 proxy tournament. Bazaar has definitely taken the place of Workshop.

Elvish Spirit Guide is another card that is allowing green decks to be even more competetive. The card is just so versatile, and is more effective than off color moxen in builds like Oshawa Stompy.

Of course, the main thing making green playable IS the madness mechanic. It's ridiculous with Bazaar of Baghdad.

Congratulations to the winner!
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2004, 05:36:26 pm »

I certainly agree with the statement that a five proxy event will distort the metagame.  I personally prefer the ALL proxy idea.  'Cause if you're gonna break the rule you might as well shatter it.  This way a "healthier" metagame is possible.  Or at least, a better represented one.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2004, 06:38:44 pm »

The amount of showing was indeed impressive.

I do have a question, what exactly went on with the Mage play? You only said that the Mystical resolved, however, that does not mean that the Mage has resolved. Seth cannot prematurely name Ancestral upon Mystical resolving, until his Mage resolved.

A completely unrelated point, was anything in the Basic Forums saved?
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2004, 11:41:08 pm »

Mystical Tutor requires that you reveal the card you search for.  Thus the player casting the Meddling Mage can declare the named card upon the mage's resolution, KNOWING what his opponent will draw.
I think this is what was meant in that statement.
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2004, 06:14:30 am »

Very nice Smmenen. I especially liked the recording of the opening hands, as those first 7 cards often make or break the control matchups.

What I'm hoping to see though (no offense) is Jarad's report for Sam vs. Jeff in t8. Sam is such a Ninja!!  Very Happy

Edit: I obviously didn't check the t1 reports forum before posting this, so my apologies. Also; great job on getting this up so fast. it seems alot of people really hit the ground running on the back-end of this waterbury.
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2004, 08:58:57 am »

Nice report,

Do you think Grow (Gat and others) will do a come-back ?

What are the chance of GAT against TOG ?

Is Damping Matrix so effective in the current metagame to be in the maindeck of Keeper ? I love this card, and play it maindeck but what is your opinion ?

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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2004, 04:13:25 pm »

Great summary first of all...

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From the post:

"Seth topdecks Black Lotus and taps a Wasteland, a Sea, and a Mox Sapphire he must have either tutored up or drawn the previous turn for Phyrexian Negator."

Didn't he have the Negator in his opening hand from the beginning?

"Scott was lucky to have such resilient mana sources considering Seth’s hand:
Wasteland,
Wasteland,
Polluted Delta,
Demonic Tutor,
Phyrexian Negator,
Meddling Mage,
Ophidian"


It is possible that I mis-read... and probably not too important, but never the less...
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2004, 04:21:15 pm »

He tutored or drew the Sapphire, not the Negator.
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2004, 06:39:16 pm »

This is in regards to game one, turn three.  It's quite possible that Demonic Tutor drew a counter war.  After all, Scott missed a land drop on turn two.  Left with an Island and two moxes, Seth could possibly tutor for a Strip Mine on the Island to try to manascrew Scott.
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2004, 07:15:50 pm »

Good read Smmenen. Wish we have something big like that in the West Coast.

This once again strengthen my stand on the legitimacy of GAT in current Meta. Dryad can pretty much handle almost any creature in the format sans Dreadnaught even though Mask should never have resolve in the first place.

On the proxy issue, here's my .02. My local meta pretty much adopts an unlimited proxy policy, which encourages a lot of people to show up and play but it doesn't really diversify the meta. Our meta's flooded with blue-based control and suicide despite the fact that people can proxy workshops and bazaar. I pretty much got sick of it and proxy up skyshroud elites (sadly, I can't find any from local dealer) and berserks to play a crappy modified traditional stompy for fun  (over my GAT so that there will be less blue) and surprisingly went 3-1.

I believe with anything over 5, the number of proxies wouldn't change a meta because most people who never own a workshop or a bazaar are unlikely to play the decks themselves because the playstyle of those decks are so different from traditional beatdown and control. The fact that people prefer to play with cards that they really own may also play a factor.
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