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Land comes into play tapped T: colorless Whenever this is in your hand, you may reveal it and remove your hand from the game, if you do, draw that many cards minus 1. yeah, I just wanted it to be pointless aside from the free mulligans...  Mulligan on a stick
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T: colorless
Whenever this is in your hand, you may reveal it and remove your hand from the game, if you do, draw that many cards minus 1.Yes it's good if you have a bad hand, yes you will be able to mulligan twisterhands, HOWEVER, it sucks when you're playing combo (like dragon) and have Laquatus and junk in your hand... or something similar to that... |
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2004, 09:37:52 am » |
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Isn't there a card just like this in darksteel?
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2004, 02:07:26 pm » |
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Not really...
The darksteelcard just lets you mulligan to the same number of cards you have in your hand...
This just lets you mulligan (so it's only useful if:
a) the hand you want to mulligan is really sucky, 2-4 dead cards you wouldn't mind removing from the game
b) you just want to mulligan somewhere in the middle of the game, post-twister, post-wheel, or just after you cast an ancestral on yourself...
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2004, 05:34:22 pm » |
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This is really powerful, since it lets you see a bunch of new cards for free. It's like a Tolarian Winds for zero mana. And Tolarian Winds saw play.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2004, 06:16:08 pm » |
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Although it DOES remove the hand from the game...
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2004, 05:13:22 am » |
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this doesn't ONLY let you mulligan. This let's you play all your free mana, and THEN dump all the useless spells, for the cost of 0 mana. Print this, and I'll break it.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2004, 02:47:45 pm » |
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Eeeuhm, after playing all your free mana-spells there are certain cards better than this, since this only lets you draw cards equal to the number of cards in your hand minus 1 (it's really a mulligan)
Twister would be better, as would Balance (Hmm, any draw-7 would be better) Mind Twist would probably be better too at that point...
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2004, 09:27:35 am » |
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No BWM, as this is one-sided, and basicly I'm digging through my deck to find the cards I need. In any case, I can make you a challenge, that I use this card, together with the current T1 pool, and show you why it's broken.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2004, 03:30:37 pm » |
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Saying that a free, colorless card is "worse than a draw 7" is hardly enough to ensure that it isn't broken anyway. I mean, Ancestral is worse than a draw 7 in that situation!
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2004, 03:32:25 pm » |
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Saying that a free, colorless card is "worse than a draw 7" is hardly enough to ensure that it isn't broken anyway. I mean, Ancestral is worse than a draw 7 in that situation! Funny you should say this, since in a combo deck, this is a 0 mana ancestral! |
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2004, 03:39:59 pm » |
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Morefling, the current T1 is already broken anyways, so I don't mind...
I still think this is not utterly broken, it's just a mulligan...
Hmm, what about instead of removing your hand from the game removing the top 10 cards of your library from the game...
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2004, 04:29:38 pm » |
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If a card is so good that you need to add on a ton of disadvantages, you'd be better off just redesigning it so that it isn't so good.
As an aside: disadvantages are good, if they're integral to the card. Eater of Days and Phyrexian Negator are good examples of cards with drawbacks that enhance the card.
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2004, 12:32:12 pm » |
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Die, my little card, die...
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2004, 07:40:56 pm » |
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I'll close this, but only with the admonishment that Jacob explain further the idea of drawbacks that enchance a card's design. Possibly in one of the stickied threads.
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