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1  Eternal Formats / Creative / [Deck] GaT on: July 05, 2004, 02:35:29 pm
Gro-a-Tog (More like Dryad) v 2.0

The Mana: 21
4 Underground Sea
4 Tropical Island
4 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
2 Island
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl

Draw Engines: 15
4 Brainstorm
4 AK
4 Serum Visions
1 LoA
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Gush

Denial: 6
4 FoW
2 Misdirection

Tutor/Disruption/Etc: 10
3 Duress
2 Cunning Wish
1 Regrowth
1 Yawgs Will
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor

Beats: 8
3 Togs
4 Quirion Dryads
1 Beserk

SideBoard: 15
1 Smother
3 Naturalize
1 Oxidize
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Coffin Purge
1 Beserk
2 Stifle
3 BeB
2 Tormod’s Crypt

You may see several debatable things on the decklist such as:

1) The lack of Mana Drains: The deck's mana curve is very low and It's very hard to rely on keeping the UU open to be able to cast it. Also the deck doesnt contain as many valid Drain mana targets as Hulk, and other GaT builds. Moreover the fact that I do not have any Mana Drains in my possesion.

2) The MD Beserk: When "going off"its not as easy as it seems to keep mana open to cast the Wish. Also if your opponent is looking to counter that "game winning" Wish its better to bait the counter w/ the Wish then cast the Beserk (the look on their face is amazing).

3) Regrowth: Nicely owns Maze of Ith over again, and no one can say no to a Second Recall or Walk.

Stuff im not sure about:
3 Duress (if any)

Discuss.
2  Eternal Formats / Creative / 5th Dawn Card - Auriok Salvagers on: May 25, 2004, 10:14:01 am
Another broken combo from 5D and none of the cards needed are restricted.

Turn 1: Mishra's Workshop Tap Metalworker
Turn 2: Staff of dominance GG

Draw your deck, infinate mana you name it!
3  Eternal Formats / Creative / Gr0-ing myself a'Tog in T1 on: April 25, 2004, 05:26:19 pm
I find the Duresses a must. They can totally ruin your opponents game plan. Alhough, I know this change in the mana base is essential, but the Duress and Misdirection again I find absolutely essential. Is there something else that I should Take/Side out?  LoA, Mind Twist, FoF....? Thanks for the imput
4  Eternal Formats / Creative / Gr0-ing myself a'Tog in T1 on: April 23, 2004, 11:20:53 am
Well I have playtested and fixed it up a bit.

The Mana: 18
4 Underground Sea
4 Tropical Island
4 Polluted Delta
2 Island
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire

Draw Engines: 12
4 Brainstorm
4 Thirst for Knowledge
2 Deep Analysis
1 LoA
1 Ancestral Recall

Denial: 10
4 Mana Drain
4 FoW
2 Misdirection

Tutor/Disruption/Etc: 12
3 Duress
2 Cunning Wish
1 Regrowth
1 Yawgs Will
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 FoF
1 Mind Twist

Beats: 8
3 Togs
4 Quirion Dryads
1 Gush

SideBoard: 15
1 Smother
2 Naturalize
1 Oxidize
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Coffin Purge
1 Beserk
1 Skeletal Scrying
3 Stifle
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Misdirection
2 Ground Seal

The AK Engine sucks TfK and DA are alot better and more reliable and its just Gass in Tog.
5  Eternal Formats / Creative / 2 Tog questions on: April 23, 2004, 11:08:35 am
But yet its the most versitile one. But its really your choice
6  Eternal Formats / Creative / First shot at TnT' on: April 23, 2004, 09:28:43 am
I think running just the Trinispheres is enough. I could try to fit in Art. Mutation, or MD the Blood Moons or something similar. What do you think?
7  Eternal Formats / Creative / 2 Tog questions on: April 23, 2004, 09:22:07 am
I'd recommend Ancestral Recall that is the most prized blue card these days and is shooting up in price.
8  Eternal Formats / Creative / First shot at TnT' on: April 22, 2004, 10:14:32 am
Im terribly sorry about that I didnt read the Chalice correctly. Thank you.
What should I use instead?
9  Eternal Formats / Creative / [Deck] Viable Aggrofinity... on: April 20, 2004, 07:37:56 pm
EDIT*  Thoughtcast is a Sorcery.
10  Eternal Formats / Creative / Gr0-ing myself a'Tog in T1 on: April 20, 2004, 05:57:42 pm
@ Pest

Fastbond is not widely played not because of the restriction of the Gush engine, and its not really worth it for just 1 card like Yawgs Will.  So I'd like to play it but I dont there are better things than wasteing a slot on Fastbond

How bout Deed or Future Sight?

Double post merged.
-Jacob
11  Eternal Formats / Creative / Gr0-ing myself a'Tog in T1 on: April 20, 2004, 01:37:31 pm
Hows Cabal Therapy in this deck?
12  Eternal Formats / Creative / First shot at TnT' on: April 20, 2004, 09:39:47 am
I dont think the Pillar is a great idea. Trinispere is easily played turn 1 via Workshop unlike the Pillar requiring 2 non-Workshop mana. Also Trinispere creates a nice lock w/ Chalice set a 3. Awesome against almost any deck.

Also I prefer Gorilla Shaman over Karn, the only bad things 1 I cant Weld him, and 2 He get destroyed by the lock. Also Im not to sure about the ranger because I only have 4 non basics so i added another chalice instead.


The Mana: 22
4 Mishras Workshop
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
4 Taiga/(not sure yet about Karplusan Forest w/ the Sundering Titan)
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Mountain
2 Forest/1 and a Mox Pearl

Creatures: 18
1 Anger
4 Su-Chi
1 Triskelion
4 Goblin Welder
4 Juggernaut
1 Sundering Titan
1 Platinum Angel
1 Pentavus
1 Genesis

Disruption: 14
4 Trinisphere
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
1 Karn, Silver Golem
4 Chalice of the Void

Tech/Etc: 6
4 Survival of the Fittest
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 Memory Jar

Sideboard: 15
4 REB
3 Blood Moon
3 Tormods Crypt
2 Bottle Gnomes
1 Duplicant
1 Karn, Silver Golem
1 Triskelion


Hows this? Artifact Mutation is not largely played in my meta, do you think I should play it?
13  Eternal Formats / Creative / First shot at TnT' on: April 18, 2004, 09:18:25 am
Quote
In addition, I heard that grammar is tech.
????

What should I cut to get the mongrels in?
14  Eternal Formats / Creative / First shot at TnT' on: April 16, 2004, 04:24:19 pm
Would Wild Mongrel work ive been having a hard time pitching things to the grave for the welder.
15  Eternal Formats / Creative / Gr0-ing myself a'Tog in T1 on: April 15, 2004, 09:43:32 am
Is maze of Ith currently largely played?
16  Eternal Formats / Creative / Gr0-ing myself a'Tog in T1 on: April 14, 2004, 07:43:46 pm
The Mana: 18
4 Underground Sea
4 Tropical Island
4 Polluted Delta
2 Island
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire

Draw: 6
4 Brainstorm
1 LoA
1 Ancestral Recall

Denial: 12
4 Mana Drain
4 FoW
2 Misdirection

Tutor/Disruption/Etc: 15
3 Duress
2 Cunning Wish
4 AK
1 Regrowth
1 Yawgs Will
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 FoF
1 Mind Twist

Beats: 8
3 Togs
4 Quirion Dryads
1 Gush

SideBoard: 13
1 Smother
2 Naturalize
1 Oxidize
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Coffin Purge
1 Beserk
1 Skeletal Scrying
3 Stifle
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Misdirection
2 Ground Seal


Shall I consider Wasteland or Strip Mine?
17  Eternal Formats / Creative / When? on: April 14, 2004, 07:36:23 pm
Ok, thank you.
18  Eternal Formats / Creative / When? on: April 14, 2004, 06:28:32 pm
When are you able to post in the main T1 forum?
19  Eternal Formats / Creative / First shot at TnT' on: April 14, 2004, 09:07:43 am
Thanks guys for the imput hows this?

The Mana: 23
4 Mishras Workshop
1 Grim Monolith
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
1 Sol Ring
4 Taiga/(not  sure yet about Karplusan Forest w/ the Sundering Titan)
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Mountain
1 Forest

Creatures: 17
1 Anger
4 Su-Chi
1 Triskelion
4 Goblin Welder
4 Juggernaut
1 Sundering Titan (this and welder=insanity/unlimited stonerains)
1 Platinum Angel
1 Pentavus

Disruption: 13
4 Trinisphere
1 Strip Mine
3 Wasteland
1 Gorrila Shaman
2 Chalice of the Void
2 Sphere of Resistance

Tech/Etc: 7
4 Survival of the Fittest
2 Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 Memory Jar

Sideboard: 15
4 REB
3 Blood Moon
3 Tormods Crypt
2 Bottle Gnomes
1 Duplicant
1 Karn, Silver Golem
1 Triskelion

I fixed the deck and managed the inclusion of both the spheres and the chalices, but the Mana Vault always seem to kill me rather than help. Thanks.
20  Eternal Formats / Creative / Revised deck on: April 13, 2004, 09:32:00 am
Well I playtested a bit and the blue splash doesnt seem really worth it so I came up w/ this decklist.

The Mana: 22
4 Mishras Workshop
1 Grim Monolith
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
4 Taiga
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Mountain
1 Forest

Creatures: 18
1 Anger
4 Su-Chi
1 Triskelion
4 Goblin Welder
4 Juggernaut
1 Masticore
1 Sundering Titan (this and welder=insanity/unlimited stonerains)
1 Platinum Angel
1 Duplicant

Disruption: 9
4 Trinisphere
1 Strip Mine
3 Wasteland
1 Gorrila Shaman

Tech/Etc: 7
4 Survival of the Fittest
2 Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 Memory Jar

Sideboard: 15
4 REB
3 Blood Moon
3 Tormods Crypt
2 Bottle Gnomes
1 Duplicant
1 Karn, Silver Golem
1 Triskelion

I have 4 extra slots, what should I put in?
As you can see I totally cut blue and opted for a R/G build suggestions appreciated. Thanks
21  Eternal Formats / Creative / Revised Decklist on: April 12, 2004, 09:12:20 pm
Sorry, I am a bit new to T1 and appreciate the help, thanks guys!


The Mana: 16
4 Underground Sea
3 Tropical Island
4 Polluted Delta
1 Island
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire

Draw: 6
4 Brainstorm
1 LoA
1 Ancestral Recall

Denial: 11
3 Mana Drain
4 FoW
2 Misdirection

Tutor/Disruption/Etc: 19
3 Duress
2 Cunning Wish
2 Intuition
3 AK
1 Regrowth
1 Yawgs Will
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
2 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 FoF

Beats: 8
3 Togs
4 Quirion Dryads
1 Gush

SideBoard: 15
1 Mind Twist
1 Smother
2 Naturalize
1 Oxidize
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Coffin Purge
1 Beserk
1 Skeletal Scrying
1 Stifle
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Misdirection
1 Mana Drain
2 Ground Seal


This is the revised decklist, I couldnt fit in the Thirst/Deep Analysis combo but the decks working ok right now. Suggestions greatly appreciated, Thanks.
22  Eternal Formats / Creative / Gr0-ing myself a'Tog in T1 on: April 09, 2004, 12:08:49 pm
Alright thanks for the help guys.

The Mana: 18
4 Underground Sea
4 Tropical Island
4 Polluted Delta
1 Island
1 Swamp
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire

Draw: 6
4 Brainstorm
1 LoA
1 Ancestral Recall

Denial: 11
3 Counterspell
4 FoW
3 Misdirection
1 FoF

Tutor/Etc: 14
1 Regrowth
1 Yawgs Will
1 Time Walk
1 Cunning Wish
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
3 Sleight of Hand
3 Merchant Scroll
1 Fast Bond

Beats: 9
3 Togs
4 Quirion Dryads
1 Gush
1 Beserk

SideBoard: 15
4 Duress
3 Smother
3 Naturalize
2 Coffin Purge
2 Skeletal Scrying
1 Stifle


I still have two slots should I put in some T1 staples like Wastland or Strip minr or should I add extra swamp and island?
23  Eternal Formats / Creative / Gr0-ing myself a'Tog in T1 on: April 09, 2004, 10:44:27 am
Fact or Fiction?
24  Eternal Formats / Creative / Gr0-ing myself a'Tog in T1 on: April 09, 2004, 10:42:26 am
Well this is yet another shot at a deck that is doing relatively well in the current meta, any suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks

The Mana: 17
4 Underground Sea
4 Tropical Island
4 Polluted Delta
1 Island
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire

Draw: 6
4 Brainstorm
1 LoA
1 Ancestral Recall

Denial: 11
3 Counterspell
4 FoW
4 Misdirection

Tutor/Etc: 14
1 Regrowth
1 Yawgs Will
1 Time Walk
1 Cunning Wish
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
3 Sleight of Hand
3 Merchant Scroll
1 Fast Bond

Beats: 12
3 Togs
4 Quirion Dryads
1 Gush
4 Beserk

SideBoard: 15
4 Duress
3 Smother
3 Naturalize
????????
???????

I need a SB, thanks
25  Eternal Formats / Creative / My friend's Sligh deck. on: April 08, 2004, 08:20:27 pm
The Mana: 23
14 Mountains
4 Bloodstained Mire
3 Wooded Foothills
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Ruby

The Burn: 15
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
4 Fireblast
3 Incinerate

Creatures: 19
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Jackal Pup
4 Goblin Cadets
4 Grim Lavamancer
3 Mox Monkeys (Gorilla Shaman)

Disruption/Etc: 7
4 Cursed Scroll
1 Fork
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Black Vise

Sideboard: 15
4 REB
4 Pyroblast
3 Rack and Ruin
4 Null Rod


I have a couple to many cards what should i toss?
26  Eternal Formats / Creative / Hows this? on: April 08, 2004, 09:57:12 am
Ok we decided to cut Barbarian Ring all together along w/ the Wheel, Ball Lightning, Strip Mine, and Wasteland. Tossed in the Lavamancers (Amazing) and 4 more fetchies. Although with fork he really wanted to keep it he says "you have no idea how many times ill tap 2 mountains and float the mana then sac them to do 8 w/ my fireblast. Thanks for the help hows this revised decklist?  Ps He needs an SB

The Mana: 23
14 Mountains
4 Bloodstained Mire
3 Wooded Foothills
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Ruby

The Burn: 16
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
4 Fireblast
4 Incinerate
 
Creatures: 16
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Jackal Pup
4 Goblin Cadets
4 Grim Lavamancer

Disruption/Etc: 8
3 Cursed Scroll  
4 Reckless Charge  
1 Fork


Sideboard:
4 REB
???
27  Eternal Formats / Creative / Boston on: April 07, 2004, 02:56:45 pm
I know this has nothing really to do w/ the bay are but does anyone know where to play T1 in the Boston, MA area thanks
28  Eternal Formats / Creative / My friend's Sligh deck. on: April 07, 2004, 02:43:28 pm
As I said this deck was made by one of my friend's. He would like to see what you guys think about it, and I will foward it to him. Suggestions greately appreciated. Thanks.

The Mana: 20
14 Mountains
3 Bloodstained Mire
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Ruby
1 Barbarian Ring

The Burn: 17
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
3 Fireblast
3 Incinerate
3 Shock

Creatures: 11
4 Mogg Fanatic
3 Jackal Pup
3 Goblin Cadets
3 Ball Lightning

Disruption/Etc: 12
3 Cursed Scroll
3 Wasteland
3 Reckless Charge
1 Strip Mine
1 Fork
1 Wheel of Fortune

He's not so sure about Shock, or Wheel of Fortune. Please Tell us what you think. thanks
29  Eternal Formats / Creative / Lose the bouncer on: April 07, 2004, 02:31:30 pm
Quote from: MasterIth
you just love trinisphere in general, if this is really a first attempt, then great job, this looks well crafted, it would make an interesting deck, lose the bouncer though.


Guys: Thanks.

P.S. If you look at the revised decklist there have been a couple changes, one of them being the bouncer taken out.
30  Eternal Formats / Creative / Please Help on: April 07, 2004, 11:47:06 am
Hows this?
I need to cut 3 cards what should they be?

The Mana: 25
4 Mishras Workshop
1 Grim Monolith
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
4 Taiga
4 Tropical Island
4 Wooded Foothills
1 Mountain
1 Forest

Creatures: 18
1 Anger
4 Su-Chi
1 Triskelion
4 Goblin Welder
4 Juggernaut
1 Masticore
1 Sundering Titan
1 Platinum Angel
1 Duplicant

Disruption: 8
3 Trinisphere
1 Strip Mine
3 Wasteland
1 Gorrila Shaman

Tech/Etc: 12
4 Survival of the Fittest
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob
3 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Memory Jar

Sideboard: 15
4 REB
3 Blood Moon
3 Tormods Crypt
2 Bottle Gnomes
1 Duplicant
1 Karn, Silver Golem
1 Triskelion
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