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Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: Human Ingenuity
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on: November 11, 2013, 09:17:52 am
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I like the maindeck of this build a lot, it is very similar to what i am testing since a while (i was never sold on the idea of human, i still think GW is more conistant). It is very solid, only issue i can see it that you might flood often with this with no benefit (no KotR, only one Conopy).
I would pack 2 caverns in any case, and play 3 cage in the maindeck lowering by one the number of Talia, Qasali and Porcelain.
The side i would do it entirely different (i woudl have 3 slots more as the cage would be maindeck already).
But all in all the Leggionaire imho at the moment are the best offensive threat in GW)
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Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: GWB Beats, the best beatdown right now
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on: August 24, 2013, 03:57:51 am
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I'm surprised this thread, and the GWB Beats archetype, hasn't received more attention lately. Especially since GWB has got a few nice tools "lately": Deathrite Shaman and Abrupt Decay. Both has seen some play and to succes as well in BUG but they fit really well into GWB as well.
First, Deathrite Shaman is exactly GWB has missed: A mana producer. Noble Fish has always had Noble Hierarch and it has been used in GWB builds as well, but it has, in my opinion, never been optimal and instead stuff like Elvish Spirit Guide has been tried out. Deathrite Shaman is way better than Hierarch. It almost always helps you set up a strong T2 play as well as Hierarch (and from time to time even better because of its ability to produce B), and it has additional usability as a maindeck graveyard hoser. It deals unblockable damage and gains life which shouldn't be underestimated against other creature based decks.
Next, Abrupt Decay offers the deck some versatility being able to hit some of the most common creatures alongside the most common win condition and a lot of other annoying stuff. It has the added benefit of being able to take out a Chalice @ 2. It can definitely replace the sometimes too narrow Nature's Claim main deck.
I think that GWB is incredible strong and very underplayed at the moment. It has a lot of different ways of going and stuff to try out. For instance, does Thoughtseize and/or Mental Misstep have a place main deck? What about Liliana? What finisher, if any, should you play? Tarmogoyf, Scavenging Ooze or, my favorite, Knight of the Reliquary?
I'm not gonna post a list right now because I have a few different builds lying around, but I'm just wondering: Am I the only one playing GWB?
In fact i was tinkering around with that and despite i played little vingate lately with the summer and the many modern i have played something like this in my last tournament http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/deck.php?id=11410&iddeck=83372 . Btw ia m playing again a Vintage tournament tomorrow and will probably bring something very similar to the one i used last time.
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Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: Human Ingenuity
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on: May 28, 2013, 05:00:33 am
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A good idea would be to run grafdigger's cage maindeck. Also Thornscape Apprentice, a human wizard, can give us some tempo relief to draw that StP equired to deal with BSC.
Fiend Hunter in my view is slow and suffer from the same problem suffered by Leonin Relic-Warden.If you do not have a target those cards sit in your hands for too many turns and a tempo deck cannot afford to waste time.
One alternative could be running stuff such as Metamorph ourselves (more of an hypoerbole but we could also play Mangara or Preacher).
To be honest Tinker is often a problem not as big as a turn 1 Oath (forbidden, mox, oath, go)turning dragon breath + emrakul or BSC on turn two.
In both cases (tinker or Oath) playning a cage in turn 1 seems to be the best proactive protection we could play.
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Eternal Formats / Europe / Re: BoM 7 LIVE COVERAGE
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on: May 12, 2013, 03:01:59 pm
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TOP 4 is:MUD,MUD,Stoneforge and what deck?
final in Streaming now MUD (With Karn PW & Staff of Nin Maindeck) vs. BUG Fish (with steel Sabotage maindeck)
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Eternal Formats / Eternal Article Discussion / Re: [Free Podcast] So Many Insane Plays # 24: Dragon's Maze Set Review
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on: May 02, 2013, 10:27:15 am
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This is nonsense, it is not format defining at all, it is format polluting. This is the exact attitude I don't understand. We really need to get rid of these stereotyping, I mean come on now, brutality is what makes vintage vintage? I have a personal disgust for the statement 'Go play Legacy'. Don't ever use it again when responding to me.
Vintage without Tinker or Trinisphere will not make it less Vintage, it would make it more meaningful.
I think we agree to disagree here. I did not mean to say "go play legacy" sorry. I wanted to say that vintage without the crazy overpowered restricted cards "IS" legacy, whatever you like it or not, it is a matter of fact. Take a Deck like Stoneblade, remove LoA, Ancestral, Time Walk, Mox & Lotus, Mystical Tutor, now add back in Brainstorm 2,3 & 4 and the Vintage version of the deck looks a lot like the Legacy version of the same. The power level of vintage is defined by broken plays.
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Eternal Formats / Eternal Article Discussion / Re: [Free Podcast] So Many Insane Plays # 24: Dragon's Maze Set Review
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on: May 02, 2013, 07:32:31 am
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Guli, you are going overboard, Cards like Tinker, Trini, Balance, and the rest of the insane bombs are format defining stuff. Without them you can just play legacy. Vintage is brutal, and you should always be prepared for the worse. There are no excuses.
LoA could be unrestricted, becasue fondamentally it is true that give you a massive card advantage, but it is a tempo loss and played in 4x destabilize the manabase that a typical LoA deck needs. Workshop has more rationale to be limited than LoA.
But i do think that currently in the restricted list there are cards with much less reason for staying restricted when compared to LoA, Ponder & windfall for example.
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Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: Humans: A Weapon Invaders Can't Comprehend. . .
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on: January 21, 2013, 03:27:56 am
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Storm is right in saying Moxes> ESG. For the simple reason he runs BoB in this deck and exposing himself to reveal an ESG is too poor compared to the mana fixing ability and zer damage you get from Moxes.
A lot of the people that criticize GWxx variants, do that because they have never played one. In reality it is a very strong archetype (if you need datas to prove it from Real Life tournaments, just ask i would be happy to provide them).
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: MTGO for Vintage Feedback
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on: January 07, 2013, 10:15:10 am
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Out of curiosity, for those quoting low numbers, is there any justification for why (or even feasible long term market mechanism by which) a top vintage deck online should/could cost less to outright buy than a top standard deck online (between 400-600)?
Apologies, when i said it should be around $300 i really meant: the set of P9 + Library of Alexandria should be all together $300. Not an entire deck.
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Sound Off: How many of you will be playing Vintage online?
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on: December 21, 2012, 04:00:07 am
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I assume that if WotC launches Vintage online they will also be providing support to the format. In the shape or form of Premier Event, sanctionned tournaments, etc.
If this comes true it would mean that vintage would get, for the first time ever in the last 15 years, the support it did not have form WotC. It might look irrelevant, but in reality it is a game-changing move. More people would be attracted if they make the cards available at reasonable prices. You do not hav eto own a full kernel to play vintage, it did not use to be like that. If like me you were playing Magic in 1994 you know what i mean.
If the cards will be available (and given we are talking of online cards, they can make them as available as they want) it would probably be possible to enter the fomat with a relatively small investment comparable to the investment you need to make to play Constructed on MTGO.
The interactions i see with the paper game are enormous, already the paper P9 prices are surging in anticipation. Big dealers are buying, starcity is buying P9 at prices higher than ever. There will be more people playing, and unavoidably, more decks will see playing, more cards and synergies will be exploited.
How can anyone - who plays vintage - not like the idea of Vintage getting some breath of new fresh air ?
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Sound Off: How many of you will be playing Vintage online?
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on: December 17, 2012, 04:44:22 am
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I would play it. I am on MTGO just for Pauper and the occasional limited, but if Vintage was available and accessible (i.e. would not require me spending thousands of Dollars to play it) i would defintely play it. I do not like Legacy nor Modern. I think that MTGO Vintage would be the only way to revitalize a bit the paper Vintage world attracing maybe some players if the format would get some type of sponsorship from WotC.
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Eternal Formats / Eternal Article Discussion / Re: [Premium Article] So Many Insane Plays: The Return of Burning Long!
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on: November 20, 2012, 04:16:27 am
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Unfortunately, and this is sad to say it, but Vintage is pretty much dead or dying in almost every region from what I've been seeing. There has literally been one 11 person tournament within 3 hours of me in the last two months. Has there been a tournament of more than 30 players in the United States in the last two months? More than one in the world? If I had tournaments nearby, I know I'd be playing this every weekend.
Just in Italy: Oct. 7th: Acqualanga 44 ppl Oct. 14th: Milan 24 ppl Oct. 21st: Florence 40 ppl Nov. 4th: Milan 23 ppl (was a long bank holidays week end so many people were away) Nov. 18th: Florence 25 ppl Nov. 18th Acqualagna: 42 ppl Next week end (Nov. 25th) we have both Milan and Florence and expecte respectively (30ish and 40ish people respectively) I will chek the amount of Burning Wish decks in T8, if any. EDIT: Checked, no Burning Wish deck in top8 of any of the above (but we had one Grow & and Cobra Gush Storm deck)
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Eternal Formats / Europe / Re: [21-22-23 September MILAN] Ovino7 - Vintage, Legacy & Modern
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on: October 01, 2012, 07:52:33 am
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Vintage Main event Top8 List1st: Jaime Cano Snapcontrol1 Library of Alexandria 4 City of Brass 2 Island 2 Tropical Island 2 Volcanic Island 2 Underground Sea 2 Misty Rainforest 3 Scalding Tarn 4 Snapcaster Mage 2 Vendilion Clique 2 Scavenging Ooze 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Sapphire 4 Force of Will 3 Mana Drain 3 Mental Misstep 1 Red Elemental Blast 1 Brainstorm 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Ancient Grudge 1 Fire Ice 1 Echoing Truth 3 Duress 1 Time Walk 1 Merchant Scroll 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Yawgmoths Will 3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Sideboard (15) 4 Leyline of the Void 1 Yixlid Jailer 1 Duress 2 Ingot Chewer 2 Ancient Grudge 2 Lightning Bolt 1 Flusterstorm 2 Natures Claim
2nd: Danilo Longo TPS1 Bloodstained Mire 4 Polluted Delta 4 Underground Sea 2 Swamp 2 Island 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Lotus Petal 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Vault 1 Memory Jar 1 Yawgmoths Bargain 1 Necropotence 4 Dark Ritual 4 Force of Will 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Hurkyls Recall 1 Rebuild 2 Impulse 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Brainstorm 1 Chain of Vapor 1 Vampiric Tutor 4 Duress 2 Tendrils of Agony 1 Minds Desire 1 Tinker 1 Windfall 1 Timetwister 1 Time Walk 1 Ponder 1 Merchant Scroll 1 Yawgmoths Will 1 Demonic Tutor
Sideboard (15) 1 Blightsteel Colossus 2 Engineered Explosives 2 Tormods Crypt 3 Mystic Remora 1 Massacre 1 Rebuild 1 Hurkyls Recall 1 Echoing Truth 1 Brain Freeze 2 Extirpate
3rd: Stefano Giarola StinfOath
1 Tolarian Academy 2 Underground Sea 2 Misty Rainforest 2 Tropical Island 2 Island 4 Forbidden Orchard 3 Flooded Strand 1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn 1 Blightsteel Colossus 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Crypt 1 Time Vault 1 Voltaic Key 1 Senseis Divining Top 1 Dragon Breath 4 Oath of Druids 4 Force of Will 2 Mental Misstep 2 Flusterstorm 1 Mana Drain 1 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Brainstorm 1 Steel Sabotage 1 Beast Within 1 Hurkyls Recall 2 Thoughtseize 1 Tinker 1 Show and Tell 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Time Walk 1 Yawgmoths Will 1 Tezzeret the Seeker 1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Sideboard (15) 1 Steel Sabotage 1 Show and Tell 2 Pithing Needle 3 Natures Claim 1 Duress 4 Leyline of the Void 2 Massacre 1 Extirpate 4th: Ramσn Sαnchez - Bomberman
1 Library of Alexandria 1 Plains 1 Tolarian Academy 2 Polluted Delta 3 Island 4 Flooded Strand 4 Tundra 2 Auriok Salvagers 3 Aven Mindcensor 4 Trinket Mage 1 Aether Spellbomb 1 Black Lotus 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Grafdiggers Cage 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Sol Ring 2 Senseis Divining Top 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Brainstorm 1 Thirst for Knowledge 2 Fact or Fiction 2 Mental Misstep 3 Spell Snare 4 Force of Will 4 Mana Drain 1 Time Walk 3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Sideboard (15) 3 Flusterstorm 1 Relic of progenitus 1 Engineered explosives 2 Kataki, Wars Wage 2 Swords to Plowshares 2 Grafdiggers Cage 1 Tormods Crypt 1 Seal of Cleansing 1 Serenity 1 Path to Exile
5th: Alessandro Cattani - Goblins3 Bloodstained Mire 4 Cavern of Souls 4 Wasteland 1 Strip Mine 1 Volcanic Island 3 Badlands 3 Mountain 1 Goblin Recruiter 1 Skirk Prospector 1 Stingscourger 1 Goblin Welder 1 Goblin Tinkerer 2 Goblin Ringleader 1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror breaker 4 Goblin Matron 1 Gempalm Incinerator 3 Earwig Squad 4 Goblin Lackey 3 Goblin Piledriver 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Jet 1 Sol Ring 4 Chalice of the Void 1 Ancestral Recall 3 Mental Misstep 1 Time Walk
Sideboard (15) 2 Grafdiggers Cage 2 Greater Gargadon 1 Goblin Bombardment 1 Shattering Spree 1 Pulverize 1 Crash 3 Red Elemental Blast 4 Leyline of the Void
6th: Guido Citino - Bomberman2 Island 3 Underground Sea 3 Tundra 1 Polluted Delta 4 Flooded Strand 1 Cavern of Souls 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Library of Alexandria 1 Auriok Salvagers 2 Trinket Mage 2 Snapcaster Mage 4 Dark Confidant 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Crypt 1 Senseis Divining Top 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Nihil Spellbomb 1 Voltaic Key 1 Time Vault 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Brainstorm 1 Thirst for Knowledge 2 Spell Snare 2 Mental Misstep 3 Mana Drain 4 Force of Will 1 Disenchant 2 Swords to Plowshares 1 Hurkyls Recall 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Yawgmoths Will 1 Tinker 1 Time Walk
Sideboard (15) 1 Plains 1 Swords to Plowshares 1 Disenchant 3 Stoneforge Mystic 1 Batterskull 1 Pithing Needle 2 Flusterstorm 1 Thoughtseize 4 Leyline of the Void 7th: Jorge Rodrνguez - Fish UGR1 Library of Alexandria 1 Polluted Delta 4 Scalding Tarn 3 Tropical Island 3 Volcanic Island 2 Island 3 Tarmogoyf 2 Scavenging Ooze 2 Trygon Predator 2 Vendilion Clique 2 Snapcaster Mage 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Black Lotus 1 Fastbond 4 Force of Will 3 Mental Misstep 3 Flusterstorm 2 Steel Sabotage 3 Lightning Bolt 1 Mystical Tutor 4 Gush 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Brainstorm 1 Ancient Grudge 1 Merchant Scroll 3 Preordain 1 Time Walk 2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
sideboard (15) 4 Grafdiggers Cage 2 Surgical Extraction 1 Umezawas Jitte 1 Pyroblast 1 Red Elemental Blast 1 Mountain 4 Ingot Chewer 1 Natures Claim
8th: Jurij Gosso - Stacker List currently missing
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Eternal Formats / Europe / Re: [21-22-23 September MILAN] Ovino7 - Vintage, Legacy & Modern
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on: October 01, 2012, 05:28:53 am
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Legacy Main event Top8 ListAlex Del Valle Reanimator (Winner)4x Force of Will 3x Daze 4x Brainstorm 3x Ponder 1x Hapless Researcher 4x Careful Study 4x Entomb 4x Reanimate 3x Exhume 3x Animate Dead 2x Thoughtseize 2x Griselbrand 1x Jin Gitaxias 1x Elesh Norn 1x Tidespout Tyrant 1x Sphinx of The Steel Wind 1x Empyrial Archangel 1x Blazing Archon 4x Polluted Delta 4x Verdant Catacombs 4x Underground Sea 2x Karakas 2x Swamp 1x Island Sideboard:
3x Submerge 1x Angel of Despair 1x Iona, Shield of Emeria 1x Coffin Purge 3x Show and Tell 2x Duress 1x Flusterstorm 2x Engineered Explosives 1x Echoing Truth Temo Shunemann (2nd) with ANT4x Polluted Delta 2x Scalding Tarn 2x Bloodstained Mire 2x Underground Sea 1x Volcanic Island 1x Badlands 1x Island 1x Swamp 4x Lotus Petal 4x Dark Ritual 4x Cabal Ritual 4x Lions Eye Diamond 4x Cabal Therapy 2x Duress 1x Inquisition of Kozilek 4x Gitaxian Probe 4x Brainstorm 4x Ponder 4x Infernal Tutor 3x Burning Wish 1x Ad Nauseam 1x Past in Flames 1x Tendrils of Agony Sideboard
1x Tendrils of Agony 4x Dread of Night 3x Grafediggers Cage 2x Inquisition of Kozilek 1x Duress 1x Pyroclasm 1x Grim Tutor 1x Ill-Gotten Gains 1x Empty the Warrens Gresini Andrea with Goblin (3rd)4x Cavern of Souls 4x Mountain 4x Rishada's Port 4x Wasteland 3x Bloodstain Mire 2x Wooded Foothills 1x Taiga 2x Mogg Fanatic 1x Tuktuk Scrapper 1x Krenko, Mob Boss 2x Siege Gang Commander 1x Goblin Sharpshooter 1x Stingscourger 2x Mogg, War Marshall 1x Goblin Chieftain 3x Goblin Piledriver 4x Goblin ringleadder 4x Goblin Lackey 4x Gempalm Incinerator 4x Goblin Warchief 4x Goblin Matron 4x Aether Vial Sideboard
3x Pyrokinesis 2x surgical Extraction 3x Relic of Progenitus 3x Krosan Grip 2x red Elemental Blast 2x Pyroblast David Rocher (4th) - BANT4x Noble Hierarch 4x Stoneforge Mystic 4x Knight of the Reliquary 3x Vendilion Clique 4x Force of Will 4x Brainstorm 4x Da Spade a Spighe 3x Spell Pierce 1x Sylvan Library 3x Jace, The Mind Sculptor 1x Batterskull 1x Jitte dUmezawa 1x Sword of Feast and Famine 4x Windswept Heat 4x Misty Rainforest 3x Wasteland 3x Tropical Island 2x Tundra 1x Savannah 1x Horizon Canopy 1x Maze of Ith 1x Karakas 1x Island 1x Plains 1x Forest Sideboard
3x Meddling Mage 2x Submerge 2x Path to Exile 2x Flusterstorm 2x Engineered Explosives 2x Tormods Crypt 1x Life from the Loam 1x Elspeth, Knight Errant Matteo Lang (5th) with UW Miracle4x Polluted Delta 4x Flooded Strand 4x Tundra 1x Tropical Island 2x Volcanic Island 3x Isola 1x Plains 1x Karakas 2x Glacial Fortress 4x Senseis Diving Top 4x Brainstorm 4x Swords to Plowshares 3x Counterbalance 3x Force of Will 3x Spell Pierce 2x Rune Snag 2x Counterspell 2x Vendilion Clique 3x Snapcaster Mage 3x Terminus 2x Entreat The Angle 3x Jace, The Mind Sculptor Sideboard
2x Engieered Explosives 2x Relic of Progenitus 1x Krosan Grip 2x red elemental Blast 1x Pyroblast 2x Sulfur Elemental 1x Vendilion Clique 1x Force of Will 1x Counterbalance 2x Moat Angelo Cadei, (6th) Miracle UW4x Polluted Delta 4x Flooded Strand 3x Tundra 2x Volcanic Island 3x Island 2x PLains 1x Academy Ruins 2x Glacial Fortress 1x Karakas 1x Veldaken Shackles 4x Senseis Diving Top 4x Brainstorm 4x Swords to Plowshared 4x Counterbalance 4x Force of Will 3x Spell Pierce 2x Counterspell 2x Vendilion Clique 3x Snapcaster Mage 2x Terminus 2x Entreat The Angle 3x Jace, The Mind Sculptor Sideboard
2x Engineered Explosives 2x Flusterstorm 2x Disenchant 2x Red Elemental Blast 1x Pyroblast 2x Sulfur Elemental 1x Terminus 1x Vedalken Shackles 2x Surgical Extraction Andreas Reling (7th) - Dredge4x Golgari Grave Troll 4x Stinkweed Imp 4x Golgari Thug 4x Ichorid 4x Bridge From Below 4x Narcomoeba 4x Cabal Therapy 4x Careful Study 4x Faithless Looting 4x Breakthrough 4x Cephalid Coliseum 4x City of Brass 4x Gemstone Mine 4x Lions Eye Diamond 4x Putrid Imp Sideboard
4x Leyline of the Void 4x Natures Claim 3x Ashem Ghoul 1x Tarnished Citadel 2x Undiscovered Paradise 1x Ancient Grudge Jean Marc Caron Goblin List missing from checks Modern Main event Top8 List
Urza Tron by Renθ Colombo (winner) 4x Urzas Mine 4x Urzas Tower 4x Urzas Power Plant 3x Foresta 4x Grove of the Burnwillows 1x Eye of Ugin 4x Relic of Progenitus 4x Chromatic Sphere 4x Expedition Map 4x Ancient Stirrings 4x Chromatic Star 4x Karn Liberated 3x Wurmcoil Engine 2x Beast Within 1x Explore 3x Pyroclasm 4x Sylvan Scrying 2x Oblivion Stone 1x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn Sideboard: 1x Ghost Quarter 2x Natures Claim 1x Pyroclasm 2x Grafdiggers Cage 2x Torpor Orb 3x Combust 2x Oblivion Stone 1x Wurmcoil Engine 1x Explore Jund by Boris Aristov (2nd)
4x Blackcleave Cliff 2x Ranging Ravine 4x Treetop Village 4x Verdant Catacomb 2x Twilight Mire 2x Blood Crypt 1x Stomping Ground 1x Overgrown Tomb 1x Marsh Flats 2x Swamp 1x Forest 3x Inquisition di Kozilek 4x Bloodbraid Elf 3x Liliana of the Veil 4x Dark Confidant 3x Terminate 4x Tarmogoyf 4x Kitchen Finks 4x Lightning Bolt 2x Thoughtseize 3x Jund Charm 2x Maelstrom Pulse Sideboard: 3x Molten Rain 2x Ancient Grundge 2x Thoughtseize 2x Torpor Orb 1x Seal of Primordium 1x Duress 2x Combust 2x Obstinate Baloth RUG Vial by Daniel Ballestin(3rd) 1x Mountain 3x Misty Rainforest 2x Copperline Gorge 4x Island 1x forest 1x Breeding Pool 1x Stomping Ground 1x Steam Vents 3x Flooded Grove 3x Mana Leak 4x Tarmogoyf 3x Vendilion Clique 3x Spell Snare 3x Eternal Witness 4x Snapcaster Mage 4x Ζther Vial 1x Huntmaster of the Fells 2x Sleight of Hand 2x Vapor Snag Sideboard: 2x Threads of Disloyalty 2x Huntmaster of the Fells 2x Ancient Grudge 2x Combust 2x Glen Elendra Archmage 2x Phantasmal Image 2x Spell Pierce 1x Grafdiggers Cage Boremandos by Antonio Pinto (4th)
2x Hallowed Fountain 1x Sacred Foundry 2x Steam Vents 2x Marsh Flats 4x Arid Mesa 4x Scalding Tarn 3x Misty Rainforest 1x Moorland Haunt 1x Island 1x Mountain 1x Plain 2x Pillar of Flame 4x Path to Exile 4x Lightning Bolt 4x Lightning Helix 1x Mana Leak 4x Serum Visions 4x Remand 4x Snapcaster Mage 4x Delver of Secrets 4x Steppe Lynx 3x Geist of Saint Traft Sideboard: 3x Molten Rain 2x Kor Firewalker 1x Surgical Extraction 2x Spell Pierce 1x Sword of War and Peace 1x Negate 2x Annul 1x Relic of Progenitus 1x Sowing Salt 1x Smash to Smithereens Eternal Command by Alex del Valle (5th)
4x Scalding Tarn 3x Misty Rainforest 2x Breeding Pool 1x Steam Vents 1x Stomping Ground 2x Copperline Gorge 2x Flooded Grove 1x Mountain 1x Forest 4x Island 4x Snapcaster Mage 3x Vendilion Clique 4x Cryptic Command 3x Mana Leak 3x Spell Snare 2x Vapor Snag 2x Thirst for Knowledge 2x Serum Visions 2x Remand 3x Eternal Witness 3x Tarmogoyf 4x Lightning Bolt 4x Ζther Vial
Sideboard: 2x Glen Elendra Archmage 2x Combust 2x Spell Pierce 2x Engineered Explosives 2x Phantasmal Image 1x Natures Claim 1x Ancient Grudge 3x Huntmaster of the Fells Pyromantic Storm by Temo Shunemann (6th)
3x Island 1x Mountain 2x Steam Vents 4x Scalding Tarn 2x Misty Rainforest 4x Shivan Reef 4x Gitaxian Probe 4x Sleight of Hand 4x Faithless Looting 4x Serum Visions 4x Pyretic Ritual 4x Desperate Ritual 4xManamorphose 4x Pyromancer Ascension 4x Past in Flames 4x Seething Song 4x Grapeshot Sideboard: 4x Lightning Bolt 4x Dispel 3x Empty the Warrens 2x Shattering Spree 2x Echoing Truth RUG by Mattia Rizzi (7th) 2x Vedalken Shackles 2x Cryptic Command 2x Vendilion Clique 4x Tarmogoyf 4x Snapcaster Mage 4x Delver of Secrets 2x Deprive 3x Mana Leak 2x Spell Pierce 2x Dismember 2x Pillar of Flame 2x Spell Snare 4x Serum Visions 4x Lightning Bolt 4x Scalding Tarn 4x Misty Rainforest 1x Arid Mesa 2x Steam Vents 1x Stomping Ground 1x Breeding Pool 1x Forest 1x Mountain 6x Island Sideboard: 3x Blood Moon 2x Volcanic Fallout 2x Ancient Grudge 1x Negate 1x Combust 2x Grafdiggers Cage 3x Huntmaster of the Fells 1x Phantasmal Image Martyr by Marco Drakulic (8th)
4x Marsh Flats 3x Tectonic Edge 2x Godless Shrine 4x Flagstones of Trokair 7x Plain 1x Emeria, the Sky Ruin 3x Path to Exile 4x Souls Attendant 3x Soul Warden 2x Silverblade Paladin 2x Sword of Fire and Ice 1x Proclamation of Rebirth 2x Honor of the Pure 4x Lingering Souls 3x Ranger of Eos 4x Squadron Hawk 4x Ajanis Pridemate 3x Martyr of Sands 4x Serra Ascendant 1x Mikaeus, the Lunarch Sideboard: 2x Surgical Extraction 2x Disenchant 1x Path to Exile 3x Stony Silence 3x Ghostly Prison 2x Grafdiggers Cage 2x Torpor Orb
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Eternal Formats / Europe / Re: [21-22-23 September MILAN] Ovino7 - Vintage, Legacy & Modern
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on: September 27, 2012, 05:56:31 am
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Any news on the Vintage Decklists by the way?
Peach, soon, so far we have all Modern, Legacy and the top 3 of Vintage ready - Stinfo should get us the last 5 as soon as he manages ... Edit: my congratulations to Jaime, i have lost against him the 4th turn for 1-2. I could see him doing well at the tournament in fact I went back few minutes later to ask some questions about his deck! He deserved the victory coming with a very original deck and playing it flawlessly!
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Eternal Formats / Europe / Re: [21-22-23 September MILAN] Ovino7 - Vintage, Legacy & Modern
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on: September 27, 2012, 03:22:12 am
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First Infos about T8 , particpants and final standing with deck type of the three main events are available:
MODERN 173 players
1. Renθ Colombo Urza Tron 2. Boris Aristov Jund 3. Daniel Ballestin RUG Vial 4. Antonio Pinto Boremandos 5. Alex Del Valle Ethernal Command 6. Timo Schunemann Pyromantic Storm 7. Giuseppe Rizzi RUG 8. Marco Drakulic Martyr
LEGACY 445 players
1. Alex Del Valle Reanimator 2. Temo Shunnemann Ant 3. Andrea Gresini Goblin 4. David Rocher Bant 5. Matteo Lang UW Miracle 6. Angelo Cadei UW Miracle 7. Andreas Reling Dredge 8. Jean Marc Caron Goblin
VINTAGE 194 Players
1. Jaime Cano - Snapcontrol 2. Danilo Longo - TPS 3. Stefano Giarola - Oath 4. Ramon Sanchez - Bomberman 5. Alessandro Cattani - Goblin 6. Guido Citino - Bomberman 7. Jorge Rodrigues - Vintage Canadian 8. Jurij Gosso - Stacker
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Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: GW 2K12ish
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on: September 25, 2012, 02:54:25 pm
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Actually the tutor is there to get you out of trouble, for example your opponent has two golem and a forgemaster down and you can only be saved by a kataki, or you have just been Shown & Told an Emrakul and you die if you find your Karakas, or you have a Wurmcoil looking at you and only a Swords to Plowshares can get you out of the troubles ....
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Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: GW 2K12ish
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on: September 25, 2012, 04:38:31 am
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I still have mixed feeling about Demonic Consultation. Smmenen always says it is the perfect tutor for this deck (and i agree with this, because the other tutors are unplayable here, Demonic is too slow and mana intensive, Vampiric gives a cards disadvantage from which is hard to recover), but the question in my mind is : Does this deck really needs a tutor ? Wouldn't a Sylvan Library be more versatile ? Less powerfull and less dangerous for sure, but more flexible ... i have tested both options and i cannot find an answer.
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Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: GW 2K12ish
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on: September 24, 2012, 12:45:00 pm
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I have done that -1Gaddock and +1Thalia fundamentally because she is a dead man (woman) walking and i want her always on the board - i have never been in the situation where i had too many thalia in hand. She is my ghost Quarter, but better because i do not lose a land and the sphere effect is good against everything including dredge and MUD (obviously use with care vs shops). Additionally it is easier to cast her with 1W compared to GW of Gaddock.
Under normal circumstances Gaddock is still God vs FoW, Gush and Jace. But caverns naming human/wizard get rid of the FoW issue, Gush decks are not seeing much play over here (italy) so Jace remains the only issue and it is really an issue only in Keeper or if played in the early game.
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