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« on: April 12, 2004, 10:22:53 pm »

Village Idiot
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Creature - townsfolk- 1/1

Sacrifice Village Idiot: The next time target player would draw a card this turn, instead, that player skips that draw.

When he left home, he deprived the village of its idiot.

This seems to be a pretty good weenie. Pretty straightforward.

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Village Idiot
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T, Sacrifice Village Idiot: The next time target player would draw a card this turn, instead, that player skips that draw.

When he left home, he deprived the village of its idiot.
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2004, 01:10:31 am »

Flavourful, interesting. And you trade your 1/1 man for whatevever they would draw...No inherrent card advantage/disadvantage. I think it needs to be {T}, Sacrifice, though. It would feel very annoying to see this pop into play on the first turn and prevent me from drawing my first card. I'm not saying that it would be good or bad, gameplay-wise - just annoying.

In fact, now that I think about it, I have a recursion deck that would love to play this guy to prevent my opponent from ever drawing another card. With that in mind, I think it has the capacity to be more than just annoying. In some sense, he's like Chittering Rats, which might merit him costing more.

Make it {T}, Sacrifice and/or increase the mana cost, I think. Also, perhaps the effect should read "The next time target opponent would draw a card, he or she does not draw a card, instead." I'm not sure what the timing of a draw step is, but it may be necessary to so much as sacrifice this guy during your own turn to prevent the next card draw.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2004, 02:43:15 am »

Dawn of the Dead or Oversold Cemetery could make this pretty strong without a  {T}.

It's an odd effect that is probably more white than anything, however red has Obstinate Familiar, although they're actually quite different. It's more of a Law type card, which is definitely white, and which also makes me think that it shouldn't be called the Village Idiot. Not that I have any suggestions.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2004, 04:19:11 am »

Also, that flavor text will never happen. Swearing is a big no-no.
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2004, 05:46:17 am »

We already have this one:

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Too similar or not?
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2004, 06:15:08 am »

I'd say this is different enough.
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2004, 06:24:39 am »

How does this work with the draw step though? Since you don't really skip the draw step, can you make them skip drawing the card? Where's Jebus when you need him? Wink
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2004, 12:03:47 pm »

If you word it right there's no problems. "The next time target player would draw a card, instead, that player skips that draw." Like a forced Words of Waste.
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2004, 04:13:20 pm »

Okay, I like some of the ideas that you guys are bringing, so here we go:

Village Idiot
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1W, Sacrifice Village idiot: The next time target player would draw a card this turn, instead, that player skips that draw.

"His favourite show is 'Becker'"
"What an idiot!"

1/1

I don't want to add a *tap* to the cost, because I want this card to be a weenie along with a disruption element i.e. I want it to be able to attack AND disrupt.
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2004, 04:29:06 pm »

Although I don't really have another suggestion, this name and flavor can't stay. Matt might get a seisure. (sp?)
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2004, 04:30:10 pm »

I still think it needs the tap. Now it costs more to set up the lock, but it doesn't change the fact that with the appropriate setup (as little as this and Oversold Cemetery with a full 'yard), you may prevent your opponent from ever drawing another card. Adding a {T} to the activation at least means you have to have a 3rd card to negate summoning sickness, before you can get that kind of perpetual lock going - and 3 card game-breaking combos are fair game.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2004, 05:00:39 pm »

Okay, how about this:

Village idiot
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Does not tap to attack.

T, Sacrifice Village Idiot: The next time target player would draw a card this turn, instead, that player skips that draw. Play this ability only if you have controlled village idiot since the beginning of the turn.

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This way, it can attack and disrupt.
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2004, 09:46:21 pm »

The name is fine.
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2004, 03:04:36 am »

I agree. Village idiot is a universal concept. Please note that we try to steer clear of obvious real world references like TV shows, and swearing.

I guess the second version is OK, too, but I liked the first one a bit more. He's an idiot, so why would he be attacking?

For flavor:

'A village is a hive of glass / Where nothing unobserved can pass'  - C.H. Spurgeon

or if you want to keep it funnah:

When he left home, he deprived the village of its idiot.

Or something.
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2004, 03:22:52 pm »

That's some good flavor text. I like the second in particular. I'll make the changes.
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2004, 02:12:42 pm »

24 hour clock.
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2004, 02:30:33 pm »

Where is the current wording post? Put it in bold.
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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2004, 03:53:35 pm »

Closed and added.[/color]
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