The NEW 1.5: Naming, and Support.

[Mykeatog]

After talking a little today with Mark Rosenwater he tells me that the format didn't recieve a new name cause they are waiting for the players to come up with one. This is something that we should consider since this is still a second format for our type of magic player. Which leads me into my next point...

Is the mana drain going to suport this format? Does it seem different enough from 1.5 that it warrents rethinking the ideas about not having a forum for it? We have 2 forums for random nUbz, and as far as I can tell some of them can post in the intelligent guy forum anyway-- why would we rather support those guys than a gift from wizards?

Just some things I am wondering- trying to still up debate.

I say go.

[Zherbus]

1) I already nuked the budget forum, leaving just 1 n00b forum.

2) TheSource folks already have a 1.5 community and I'd hate to step on any toes. I wouldn't be adverse to supporting the format but they won't be just satisfied with 1 forum from TMD. They want 'Extreme 1.5', '1.5 Primers', 'Open 1.5', etc. I feel THEY should pay for SOME domain name, and redirect to their current forums.

[Jebus]

If we add a forum for 1.5, then we have to add a forum for Extended, and Type 2, and Block and...

This is the Vintage (type 1) site.  I don't see why it needs to cater to other formats that already have plenty of websites.

As far as the new name for 1.5, I vote for Extended 2: Electric Boogaloo!

[The Atog Lord]

Renaming formats in the past has met with no great deal of success.

How many people call Type One "Vintage"? The official name change happened years ago, and WotC still mentions "Type One" in their announcements.

Does anyone actually call Type Two by its official name, "Standard"?

I vote for calling 1.5 "Type One Point Five."

[Zherbus]

Apparently they got a URL going up soon : mtgthesource.com

[rvs]

OVERextended!

[DavidHernandez]

It's hard to call Type 1 "Vintage" because if you play in a current 1.5 tournament, it counts towards your "Vintage" rating.

In the new world, I will probably call Type 1 "Vintage". It's kind of cool.

Dave.

[jpmeyer]

STUFF THE NAME 1.5 BALLOT BOX!

[Nameless]

Vintage:  Part Deux

[jpmeyer]

Extended 2: The Metal Years

[Jacob Orlove]

Ric_Flair had a great suggestion: Open.

[jpmeyer]

The names of other formats are Vintage (sometimes called Type 1), Extended (Type 1.x), Standard (Type 2), Block, Open (online format), Classic (online format), Prismatic (online format), Singleton (online format), and Tribal Wars (online format).

Also, makes sure to vote "Love it!" for you reponse to the new 1.5  

[dandan]

Is there something wrong with calling it Type 1.5?

I might start calling Type I (Roman 1 as we are all old, out-of-date and resistant to change here in Type I land) Type I (Vintage) as a nod to Wizards recent efforts to be good to us. I'll even call it Vintage occasionally if they allow Portal cards (how's that for an offer Wizards?).

[Dozer]

I like Vintage. It just sounds cooler than Type 1. I am all for giving the format names instead of numbers; Vintage, Extended, Standard, Block looks better than T1, T1.x, T2, BC, I think.

As for the new "1.5", here is some random brainstorming for a name:

• Retro (I've seen that mentioned somewhere - The Source, maybe?)
• Old
• Even Longer
• Veteran
• Classic (why the hell is this occupied by an ONLINE format?)
• Proto
• Venerable
• Museum
• History
• Past
• Neo-Vintage
• 1.5: Reloaded
• Extended: Revolutions
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Probably the best way to find a name is to let random students/pupils make an association test.
"Complete: Vintage - _________ - Extended - Standard - Block"

Dozer

[Gabethebabe]

Call the new format "Fixed"

"Vintage was broken, now it is Fixed"

[LoA]

Zeitgeist.

It'll never actually get approved, but I think it's a cool word and sums up the nature of the format nicely.

[SliverKing]

Ric_Flair had a great suggestion: Open.

Open gets my vote.   It really fits the rest of the format names perfectly

Vintage - Open - Extended - Standard - Block

[jpmeyer]

"Open" is taken.  Same with "Classic."

[Bram]

I like Vintage. It just sounds cooler than Type 1.

Well, we've been calling ourselves Vintage for quite some time now, haven't we? TheManaDrain - Vintage Magic At Its Best.

Just goes to show how much we rule.

Of all suggestions so far, the only ones that make any amount of sense are 'retro' and 'classic'.

'Antique'?
'Seasoned'?
'Perennial'?
'Broad'?
'Scopic'?
'Comprehensive'?
'Universal'?
'Boundless'?
'Capacious'?
'Pervasive'?
'Intermediate'?
'Surrogate'? (just kidding ;-)
'Median'?
'Mezzo'?

I'm prone to Comprehensive myself, as it has two meanings:

1. So large in scope or content as to include much: a comprehensive history of the revolution.
2. Marked by or showing extensive understanding: comprehensive knowledge.

The first one obviously describes the former 1.5 (whereas the Comprehensive Rulebook refers to the second one). Obviously, the Comprehensive Rulebook would have to be renamed as well :-)

Perennial (as in: Lasting or active through the year or through many years) would be my second choice I guess.

Median ('Relating to, located in, or extending toward the middle') and Mezzo ('Mean; not extreme') would be a close call for my 3rd choice.

Vintage - Comprehensive/Perennial/Median/Mezzo - Extended - Standard - Block

[Edit] Seeing as how 'comprehensive' is probably too awkward with the rulebook, and Mezzo sounds more like a lounge bar, I'd probably pick either Perennial or Median. Out of those two, Median is easiest and describes the situation the best. Median would be my final pick.

[Nameless]

Actually something more along the lines of 'Intermediate' sounds like a fitting title to me.  I mean if we think of it in the bigger picture like Standard - Extended - Intermediate - Vintage then we get a better scope of where the format fits in.  Especially when 1.X turns into 1.SUCK when the oldest set becomes Invasion Block.

While I know they will never do it, I think they've certainly re/printed enough non-Basic land hate to let the Dual Lands loose again, perhaps in the 3rd set of a new Block.  If they timed this with the rotation of the fetch-lands then it wouldn't unbalance Standard at all.  They could even reprint Wasteland to keep things honest.  I'm just tired of boring formats where mono-colored decks can be dominant at all.  But, that likely stems from my own M:tG philosophy that there are 5 colors, so decks shouldn't be sporting 1 or 2 of them.  To this end I think 3-color decks would be back in style for a while, both in Standard and especially Extended.  Of course it isn't very likely at all to happen, but it just popped into my head while I was posting, and I think it'd be quite fun.

[Methuselahn]

Hmm.

Of things not mentioned yet,  I may like "Epic Magic"

It's short enough in syllables, it sort of describes the grandiose nature of 1.5 although Epic tends to be an adjective for a narrative story.

*shrug*

[Ric_Flair]

Although I think Open would be the perfect name, I understand that it is taken.  I hate Magic Online, btw.  Another name I was thinking about was Unabridged, like the dictionary.  Comprehensive sounds okay, but unabridged sounds cooler.

[Jhaggs]

I concur with the "Open" title.  It really has a nice ring and it's catchy.  Too bad that it might not be an option.  As for other titles here are a few off the top of my head:

"Selected"
"Budget"
"Prime"
"Representative"
"Perennial"
"Median" (been mentioned but catchy)
"Emblem"
"Definitive"
"Kosher"
"Vanilla"
"Headline"
"General"
"Dutch"
"Red-Headed Step Child"

[Bram]

Epic

Decent.

Unabridged

Nice. Except, ofcourse, that it really isn't unabridged ('Containing the original content') at all. However Comprehensive, while problematic in terms of the Rulebook, fits the description of the format perfectly.

"Perennial"

I mentioned that one, too :-)

"Dutch"

Bwahahahaa! As in 'cool, but cheap' you mean? ;-)

[Jhaggs]

Bwahahahaa! As in 'cool, but cheap' you mean?

Dutch can mean many things    Somehow it's fitting though...
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[dandan]

Calling it Dutch would make people think that Mountains are banned.