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Question: What is Represented in the art for Black Lotus?
A flower floating in the sky - 7 (6.9%)
a flower on a mountain side - 21 (20.6%)
a flower in a meadow - 52 (51%)
other (please list below) - 22 (21.6%)
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« on: June 06, 2006, 05:23:46 pm »

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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2006, 05:58:43 pm »

Here's a closeup of the Black Lotus art, on which I applied some filters to bring out the colors a bit more. 



I think this rules out the "flower floating in the sky" option, because of what appears to be a leaf on the ground along the top of the art.  Of your options, "flower in a meadow" seems most likely, but it seems more like "A flower with a bunch of green plants drawn in the background." 
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2006, 06:00:01 pm »

I honestly thought that was a mountain range in the background - like a google maps view of Dominia. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2006, 06:12:44 pm »

What do I see? A mountain range. What was it supposed to be? Hell knows, look at moxen background. Pretty random and abstract; same with lotus.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2006, 06:18:33 pm »

I'm a painter, so maybe my view of the artwork can shed some light on the mystery (j/k).




I actually always thought that the lotus was in the forground as if it was to be made the focus of the importance it has. The green background always seemed to be a medow or fled which is slightly out of focus to maintain the importance of the Lotus being held up close to the viewer.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2006, 11:57:52 pm »

Sky: wtf? whose sky has lines and is green?
Mountain: Uh that's kind of a stretch. I guess if you were raised in a "nontraditional" family...
Meadow: Bingo.
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2006, 12:02:50 am »

I honestly thought that was a mountain range in the background - like a google maps view of Dominia. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2006, 12:19:07 am »

I also voted for a flower growing on the side of a mountain.  The background appears to be ascending to me.  I couldn't tell you why; it simply appears that the elevation at the top of the frame is higher than that at the bottom.
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2006, 12:21:03 am »

I voted other, because I'm pretty sure the background isn't supposed to represent anything at all--it's just a background.
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2006, 12:22:02 am »

I always thought it was the edge of a forest, where there would be enough sunlight for a flower.

There appears to be a log and some vegetation in the background, and the entire card is green except for the lotus, so it seems logical that the background is some kind of forest scene.
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2006, 02:24:28 pm »

To my understanding the lotus is an aquatic flower.  So the background could be a water body surface, out of focus, covered in lilly pads, alge or other vegetation.  Tough I agree with Jacob.  The green is a background and the artwork done in such a way to capture focus on the lotus flower itself.

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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2006, 02:35:48 pm »

I picked flower in the sky, but i should have picked other.  I see it as a flower in the forground up higher with the green down below, looking down at a 3/4 angle.  Maybe we are just over analyzing it.  Maybe Rush was in a "green phase", or didnt have any other colors in his supplies with enough left to cover the canvas.

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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2006, 03:34:08 pm »

I always thought it was a flower on the side of a mountain and the flower was rendered while sitting on the mountain looking off it (probably not really, but that's the view I get).
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2006, 03:38:16 pm »

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To my understanding the lotus is an aquatic flower.
This is correct. Lotuses grow in water.
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2006, 03:47:45 pm »

I've always thought the background to be a mountain range as well. With a wizard (you, the viewer) standing on top of the world, holding ultimate power in the form of the Lotus, ready to conquor all in front of you with it's dark magic...
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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2006, 04:10:53 pm »

I made it so people can change their vote.
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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2006, 05:27:40 pm »

I lived on top of Lookout Mountain for over three years.   You can see seven states and something like twenty mountain ranges from it.

That being said, I certainly don't think the backround is of a mountain range.  Even the super green, huge plant, dinosaurific type.

However, it doesn't look like a meadow either.

I always thought it was a flower on the side of a mountain and the flower was rendered while sitting on the mountain looking off it (probably not really, but that's the view I get).

This is always the view I got as well.  That it was near the bottom of a valley on a mountain, looking towards another mountain which was forested.

I also voted for a flower growing on the side of a mountain. The background appears to be ascending to me. I couldn't tell you why; it simply appears that the elevation at the top of the frame is higher than that at the bottom.

This actually speaks moreto what I thought the backround was.

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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2006, 07:34:40 pm »

Im not very artistic when it comes to painting, but I would agree that it appears to just be a simple background that looked good with the colors in the flower...its simply that a nice background not really meant to express anything of real importance (which heightens the lotus' importance)

I should have asked Chris Rush this past weekend, but I didnt know enquiring minds wanted to know.
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2006, 06:06:56 am »

I think its more or less a POV shot.  Imagine Standing in a grassy, mossy, clearing in a forest.  Your standing in the center.  Its about 4 or 5 o'clock so, even though your in a clearing, the sun is filtering through the trees off to your left.  You standing in the glade looking down at a flower you just picked (you hand is out of frame).  The grass and moss of the forest floor is out of focus.   

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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2006, 09:15:22 am »

I also voted for a flower growing on the side of a mountain.  The background appears to be ascending to me.  I couldn't tell you why; it simply appears that the elevation at the top of the frame is higher than that at the bottom.

Same here. We just don't see the Lotus Pond that the flower grows in. Also, it could be the mountain that is also depicted in the art of http://magiccards.info/wl/en/165/]Lotus Vale.
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2006, 04:42:58 pm »

I voted other, since I'm pretty sure that the lotus flower itself is the center of the art, and the background is, well, a background, painted and designed to suggest the viewer strongly to look at the front of the field, and then, to the flower.

But I must admit that the background seems to me to be somewhat of an abstract view of a mountain lake, or something in the like.

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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2006, 12:08:27 am »

It looks like a lily pad to me with the lotus on top.
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2006, 12:25:49 am »

There's too much texture and detail in the background for the "green stuff" to be leaves in a pond.

I'm going with Jacob on this one: it's just a background and doesn't have any real meaning. I'm pretty sure this is common for a lot of the Alpha artwork.

The most realistic representation of the lotus is in Urza Saga's Lotus Blossom.



But I don't see much of a connection between this and the Black Lotus art.

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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2006, 12:41:11 am »

My first impression was always that it is the flower floating in the sky, like over a mountain top.  As I look closer, I think that's not right, but that's what I voted for.
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2006, 03:03:29 am »

It looks a bit like it's under water but the water's green Rolling Eyes
So it's probably just an abstract background used to bring the lotus out more. The green was probably used just to keep the lotus connected with nature despite being an artifact. (In all honesty, how could a flower realistically be an artifact?!)
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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2006, 05:09:00 am »

I always thought it was a meadow. I still don't see any mountains   Confused
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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2006, 02:27:12 pm »

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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2006, 07:45:07 pm »

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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2006, 01:32:07 am »

It's a Lotus in front of a kleenex box.

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« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2006, 04:22:13 am »

It's a Lotus in front of a kleenex box.

Debate over with and done...

DING we have a winner...actually i think the background is possably a lotus leaf? like your looking at the flower and the leaf in the background?
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