Starcitygames Boston Update Thread

[Storm]

Heh.  I remember when Jeff Greene made top 8 eons ago at the Waterbury with Oshawa Stompy.  Props. 

[wethepeople]

Heh.  I remember when Jeff Greene made top 8 eons ago at the Waterbury with Oshawa Stompy.  Props. 

if only he were playing Stompy rather than Uba Stax. that would make me happy. 

[hulk3rules]

No man, I really didnt mean it that way...it was really suspicioius though when he'd touch the top card, then decide to "fetchland before his upkeep"....and to Moxlotus- I didnt want to say anything because if i were wrong and it was all a coincidence of the touch and "in response to upkeep" thing i didnt want to look like any more of a jerk (I was already playing bomberman---worst deck ever)

As further proof that this guy is a lying scumbag (even though he admitted it himself) I want to point out that Jeff's deck doesn't even run fetchlands.

Congrats again Jeff

[Purple Hat]

you know what sucks about this weekend?  I was gonna go to this tournament, and I had plane tickets and everything and was all excited.  then I got to the airport and was told that my flight was boarding 2 hours late and if I wasn't prepared to sit on the runway patiently for 2 hours after it boarded then I shouldn't bother boarding the plane.

That said great job to everyone who top 8'd and good luck to everyone tomorrow.

hale

No man, I really didnt mean it that way...it was really suspicioius though when he'd touch the top card, then decide to "fetchland before his upkeep"....and to Moxlotus- I didnt want to say anything because if i were wrong and it was all a coincidence of the touch and "in response to upkeep" thing i didnt want to look like any more of a jerk (I was already playing bomberman---worst deck ever)

As further proof that this guy is a lying scumbag (even though he admitted it himself) I want to point out that Jeff's deck doesn't even run fetchlands.

Congrats again Jeff

wow....I didn't even think that far I just assumed that there's no way jeff was cheating.

[Slack]

re: Jeff Greene

I was the fish player he beat in the top 4.  Jeff was a great guy and I can confirm that he quite honestly, fairly and soundly stomped me into the ground with Sundering Titan.  Congratulations on winning Jeff, I was rooting for you in the end there.

[Evenpence]

Evenpnece blows, he 0-2ed right away.

I got paired up against a guy I drove up with on 0-2 Drop (AJ), and the night before in our hotel room, I taught him how to beat Ubastax with Gifts.  He pulled the third game out.

Because I lost, I got paired up against Goblins.  Man, a whole lot I could have done there.

Regardless, I did well the second day, but conceded to another guy I drove up with on 0-2 Drop (Joe Davis), so he could get his first SCG T8.  I was destroying him at the time.

[SonataOfTheCathedral]

Day 2 Top 8 was:

Me (obv) with Bomberman
Ashok with Goblins
Herbig with I'm super lucky PitchLong
Joe Davis with gifts
Mike Pise? I beat him Day 1 but I forgot his full name with Gifts
FEINSTEIN with U/W Fish
Gifts
Random sloppy Slaver player that amazed me because he played like ass and still beat Evenpence

Herbig once again trumped me, but I did take it to game 3 in Top 8. I also 5-0'd the swiss and defeated many Bomberman mirrors including the finalist of Saturday. I missed top 8 on Saturday in the last round sadly, but I feel you don't have to be Canadian to consistently perform with the deck.

But the highlight of the weekend was staying in a hotel with Tommy and cuddling in the same bed together. ; )

[Cross]

I missed top 8 by a game day 2. I was fairly tired, but so is everyone else so no excuse. I was one mana short, due to a duress of going of turn 1 with gifts and winning game two round 7, and going into top 8 with an x-0-3 record. Instead I was x-1-2 and didn't make it. Something similar happened to Nate Pease.

Who won?

[Evenpence]

Random sloppy Slaver player that amazed me because he played like ass and still beat Evenpence

I was pretty amazed too.

He kept accusing me of Rules Lawyering and lying to him, when anyone who has ever played against me can testify that I am definitely NOT a rules lawyer, and I most certainly don't lie about doing such.

During our Game 2, I think he made 5+ play mistakes in a single turn.  He basically punted the game by never using his welder against me.  Example:

I bazaar during my upkeep, to get me to exactly 8 cards threshold (7 after replaying a Barbarian Ring with Crucible).  He looks at me like, "Okay, newb, why on earth would you bazaar during your upkeep?"

Then I replay barbarian ring to kill his welder after I draw a card.  He doesn't respond to my bazaar activation OR my killing of his welder by welding out either my Crucible or my Bridge.

He had his Welder for at least 2 turns active before he welded ANYTHING of mine out for anything else.

He also Yawgmoth's Wills to replay Lotus and something else almost irrelevant.  He could have hardcast Triskelion from the yard, but chose not to.

Also, at one point, I had 0 cards in hand, a bridge in play, and was at 7 life, so instead of welding out my bridge for something else, attacking with Triskelion, then pinging me to death, he decides to ping me with his Triskelion and try to attack me.  Then, after he's told that I have ensnaring bridge out and 0 cards in hand by a judge, passes the turn.

I kill his welder with B-ring, then next turn he plays BELCHER.  !?!?!?

Okay, I have absolutely no way to deal with Goblin Charbelcher.  You got me.

I'm surprised he decided to actually Belcher me instead of his own Triskelion, which would have been more in line with his plays.

Oh, also, Game 1, he constantly tells me that the hand I kept was crap against him, when it was pretty much the nut draw.  I kept hand of infy mana without sources that sacrifice, Uba Mask, and Tormod's Crypt, which I was slowrolling.

That's pretty much the freaking nut draw against Slaver because if he doesn't have a Welder + Counterspell in his hand, I will win that game.

Instead, he has Tinker for Colossus + Double Force backup.

[SonataOfTheCathedral]

The amount of play errors I saw this weekend was amazing and extremely sad. Day 1 I can attribute because I wanted to drop at 2-0-1 and wasn't in the mood like 90% of the time, but I saw people casting Gifts Ungiven with True Believer out and people let it resolve...in the top tables mind you!

I really don't know how that Slaver player cruised through the swiss like that, it was disgusting.

[Dxfiler]

Day 2 had 75 people, 30 less than day 1, but about 25 new players who weren't there on Saturday (mostly good ones, such as Crossman and Demonic Attorney)... the top 8 after 7 rounds of swiss looked like this:

1) Chuck Norris /w UW Fish

2) Mike Herbig /w Pitch Long

3) Someone /w slaver severance belcher

4) Ashok Cutthuri /w Goblins :p

5) Someone else /w Gifts

6) Mike Pies /w GG Gifts

7) Elias /w Bomberman, Bomberman 

8) Joe Davis /w Meandeck Gifts

Matchups:

Quarterfinals:

Chuck Norris defeated Joe Davis

Ashok defeated Belcher boy

Mike Pies beat gifts

Mike Herbig beat Elias

Semis:

Mike Pies defeated Chuck Norris?!  Not even Chuck Norris can stop turn one Turn one Tinker/Colossus /w counter backup.

Mike Herbig beat Ashok

Finals:

Mike Peas defeated Mike Herbig

Chuck Norris was sighted outside the hall with a pack of ninjas, ready to strike and steal the rest of the power.  Chuck later sent me an envelope that contained someone's severed finger and a note that said :

Report on the way... more bodyparts to come.

- Dave Feinstein

edit: corrected top 8 info, I think I got the seeds and players right this time.  If not, sorry :p

[Chiz]

I feel you don't have to be Canadian to consistently perform with the deck.

That's for sure! But only Canadian performed with that deck before because... We were the only one who seems to find it a good deck (And the only one to really know it). Bomberman is a really good deck, I'm glad to see that people outside Québec can do well with it!
Congradulation for your top8!  (And congradulation to everyone who top8 too both days!)

[TopSecret]

     Congratulations to the top 8 finishers, and thanks for posting results!

On the note of bomberman, the deck is very good.
In fact, there was a lot of yelling Day 1 about it being...

Unbeatable!

TopSecret

[White_Ghost]

Haha, go Herbig!

With all the Vintage players doing well at Legacy events, it's time the tables were turned.

[Changster]

Yep yep go Herbig!  He made a kickass statement with his weekend debut as the newest member of Meandeck  :lol:  Way to go Mike!

[herbig]

3 pieces of power down, 6 more to go.

[Largent]

Congrats to RIT vintage players Matt Bailey getting 3rd on day 1 with u/w fish and Mike Hetherington getting 5th on day 2 with jar gifts. Thought i would throw this out there since they are the "someone" in all of the other posts.

[v4ino]

Heh.  I remember when Jeff Greene made top 8 eons ago at the Waterbury with Oshawa Stompy.  Props. 

if only he were playing Stompy rather than Uba Stax. that would make me happy. 

Take some sollace that FSB (Forino Sui Black) got 4th on day one (who said there was no combo in the T8 day one), athough I must say the pilot was pretty damn good 

[ElyasMachera]

Hey it’s Jeff, so I had replied in this thread and it was posted but now seems to have been deleted.  Not quite sure why but here we go with a shorter version.

Thanks to everyone for the show of support, even if the post was only a joke it still pissed me off to see it.

Everyone at the tournament was awesome and all my opponents were some of the best people I've played against in a while.

Special thanks to the dragon player for not caving my head in after my game 4 (1 draw) Workshop 3Sphere go on the play.

This win was just a friendly reminder that there are a few remnants of Hadley still out there....

[MadManiac21]

We'll just keep tearing it up with 5cUbaStax, everyone will think it's ass, and no one will prep for it.

Grats on the win man. I'm really looking forward to the changes you made to the older list I used to place 5th at Waterbury.

[ashiXIII]

Evenpnece blows, he 0-2ed right away.

I got paired up against a guy I drove up with on 0-2 Drop (AJ), and the night before in our hotel room, I taught him how to beat Ubastax with Gifts.  He pulled the third game out.

Because I lost, I got paired up against Goblins.  Man, a whole lot I could have done there.

Regardless, I did well the second day, but conceded to another guy I drove up with on 0-2 Drop (Joe Davis), so he could get his first SCG T8.  I was destroying him at the time.

Come on, Colby. This statement isn't really fair. You make yourself look like Super-Nice Guy and you make me look like Scrubby McDouche. What really happened in round 7 was Colby crushed me game 1, I crushed him game 2, and he had a significant advantage in game 3 with an Uba Mask out, when he accidently drew with the Mask in play and shuffled his hand, so he conceded at that point. He would've gotten the GL from the judge anyway, as he had already received penalties earlier in the day for the same infraction. Plus, I gave him $50 and bought him dinner. (At McDonald's, yes, but it was still dinner.)

[TD]

Evenpnece blows, he 0-2ed right away.

I got paired up against a guy I drove up with on 0-2 Drop (AJ), and the night before in our hotel room, I taught him how to beat Ubastax with Gifts.  He pulled the third game out.

Because I lost, I got paired up against Goblins.  Man, a whole lot I could have done there.

Regardless, I did well the second day, but conceded to another guy I drove up with on 0-2 Drop (Joe Davis), so he could get his first SCG T8.  I was destroying him at the time.

Come on, Colby. This statement isn't really fair. You make yourself look like Super-Nice Guy and you make me look like Scrubby McDouche. What really happened in round 7 was Colby crushed me game 1, I crushed him game 2, and he had a significant advantage in game 3 with an Uba Mask out, when he accidently drew with the Mask in play and shuffled his hand, so he conceded at that point. He would've gotten the GL from the judge anyway, as he had already received penalties earlier in the day for the same infraction. Plus, I gave him $50 and bought him dinner. (At McDonald's, yes, but it was still dinner.)

Colby, we never played each other the night before in the hotel room. You played some games with Joe and the only games he won was when he got colossus on the table early. In testing gifts vs stax, Joe and I had already found this as true and honestly its not a big secret that stax has a tough time answering a turn 1-2 colossus. I understand you have a reputation to keep up but you did make us out to look like a couple of noobs you had to share a room with. Your a great guy but I think you could have put a little more thought/truth into that post.

[warble]

Random sloppy Slaver player that amazed me because he played like ass and still beat Evenpence

I was pretty amazed too.

Game 1, he constantly tells me that the hand I kept was crap against him

he has Tinker for Colossus + Double Force backup.

That's right, dude, you got pwned 2-0 and the match took a good 10 minutes.  I'll put up a tournament report when I get the chance, but because you didn't adequately describe the circumstances I'll just let everyone know your opening hand against my slaver build:

Workshop, Sol Ring, 3x Mox/Crypt don't remember, Uba Mask, Tormod's Crypt.

And my opening hand on the PLAY:

Force of Will, Ancestral Recall, Underground Sea, Mox Emerald, Mana Crypt, Mana Drain, Thirst for Knowledge.

And why you played stax badly for keeping that hand and playing it like you did:

You led with 5 mana sources, then dropped Uba mask leaving yourself 1 card when my hand included 2x Mana Drain, 2x Force of Will, Tinker, Thirst and Mana Crypt after the upkeep Ancestral.  Had you played UBA with the Workshop, holding 5 cards in hand, the hand is still terrible but the play would have at least been correct.  We can get into the rules lawyering over PM if you'd care to, my opinion still is the same.

In regards to "steamrolling the swiss" it definitely did NOT go down like that.  I was able to win against a resolved Yawgmoth's Bargain in combo with only an Arcane Lab, Mana Drain, and Yawgmoth's Will.  Barely, with some luck.

In fact, my only losses for the day were to Mike Peas once in the Swiss and once in Top 8.  Unfortunately, the matchup against Gifts is in favor of Gifts even post-sideboard and I was playing against an excellent build of Gifts, and an excellent pilot.  He played the match perfectly as far as I can tell, with broken cards all over the place.

When you only lose to the person that wins the tournament, only in vintage can you receive such a thrashing on the boards.

I really don't know how that Slaver player cruised through the swiss like that, it was disgusting.

[Chiz]

If some are interested, Simon MacRae made a report of his tournament (He finish 2nd day1 with Bob-Herman) in our french forum, here: http://www.mtgquebec.com/viewtopic.php?t=2437

Here is his decklist:

Simon MacRae
Bob-Herman

4xForce of Will
4xTrinket Mage
4xDark Confidant
4xDimir Cutpurse
4xBrainstorm
4xDuress
2xCabal Therapy
3xAuriok Salvagers
2xAether Spellbomb
1xAncestral Recall
1xTime Walk
1xDemonic Tutor
1xEngineered Explosives
1xTormod’s Crypt

2xPolluted Delta
3xFlooded Strand
3xWasteland
3xUnderground Sea
3xTundra
2xIsland
1xStrip Mine
1xMox Jet
1xMox Ruby
1xMox Pearl
1xMox Emerald
1xMox Sapphire
1xSol Ring
1xBlack Lotus

Sideboard:
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Kami of Ancient Law
2 Ronom Unicorn
3 Kataki, War’s Wage
1 Pithing Needle
1 Tormod’s Crypt
2 Darkblast


He made those changes for day2 (and finished 10th):
Maindeck:
-2 Cabal Therapy
+2 Erayo

Side:
-1 Crypt
-1 Kataki
+2 Energy Flux

[Hi-Val]

You led with 5 mana sources, then dropped Uba mask leaving yourself 1 card when my hand included 2x Mana Drain, 2x Force of Will, Tinker, Thirst and Mana Crypt after the upkeep Ancestral.

Find me a deck in Vintage that beats a hand of 2x Force Drain Tinker Thirst Mana Crypt. Bragging that he played wrong when you have an unbeatable hand is moot.

In regards to "steamrolling the swiss" it definitely did NOT go down like that.  I was able to win against a resolved Yawgmoth's Bargain in combo with only an Arcane Lab, Mana Drain, and Yawgmoth's Will.  Barely, with some luck.

I have yet to EVER see a game in Magic where a combo deck wins after Arcane Lab hits the table. You ONLY had Mana Drain and Yawgmoth's Will? Well damn! All you have to do is hold back counters for when they try to bounce your Lab!

Like good on ya for winning but it's not like those were Bobby Fisher hard game states at all.

[warble]

In regards to "steamrolling the swiss" it definitely did NOT go down like that.  I was able to win against a resolved Yawgmoth's Bargain in combo with only an Arcane Lab, Mana Drain, and Yawgmoth's Will.  Barely, with some luck.

I have yet to EVER see a game in Magic where a combo deck wins after Arcane Lab hits the table. You ONLY had Mana Drain and Yawgmoth's Will? Well damn! All you have to do is hold back counters for when they try to bounce your Lab!

Sorry, again in the tourney report it will be more clear.  My hand contained Arcane Laboratory, Mana Drain and Yawgmoth's Will and he had just drawn 12 cards off Bargain and passed the turn.  Arcane Laboratory was not resolved, or there's really nothing to tell (as you noted).

And you're completely incorrect about the workshop match because if the typical Wasteland, SoR/Chalice hand were kept by my opponent here it would have denied me colored mana as I only had a dual land out for colored mana.  Against CS I prefer to keep a hand with Chalice/SoR/Trinisphere and waste/strip as opposed to any hard locks because you want to soft lock CS early to stall them in their early game.  Any of the wastelands or the strip mine would have likely won the game for Colby.

[SonataOfTheCathedral]

Props :
-Bob-erman, un deck Savage.
-Les hotties de Boston
-Weed.
-La mère a Roux.

Slops :
-Running out of Weed
-Les rues de Boston
-Les juges scrub
-La mère a Roux

This is from Simon Mcmae's tournament report. I'm curious in absolute seriousness how weed improved or skewered your judgment and your deck building. Did marijuana inspire you to play a very unique deck? And did it help you perform?

I must say Erayo was savage and singlehandedly won a game against me. How did Cabal Therapy work out? Not so well I presume? What were the Kami's+Ronom Unicorns for? Oath was that present or you feared Threads Of Disloyalty hype?

[Thug]

I have yet to EVER see a game in Magic where a combo deck wins after Arcane Lab hits the table.

Slightly off-topic but I won with TPS once against a resolved Lab, by Rebbing it.
Duress helps a lot in clearing the way for a REB/Bounce card.

Koen

[Komatteru]

I have yet to EVER see a game in Magic where a combo deck wins after Arcane Lab hits the table.

Slightly off-topic but I won with TPS once against a resolved Lab, by Rebbing it.
Duress helps a lot in clearing the way for a REB/Bounce card.

Koen

Well, if your opponent doesn't have a win on the board before they cast Lab, eventually, they will have to play a sorcery-speed spell sometime, and then you can REB EOT.  In addition, I found that waiting for an opponent to cast a Draw spell on my end step (which they will do, figuring you can't bounce the Lab on your turn, lest they just replay it) and then REBing it after I get priority back is pretty savage.

Point is that is indeed difficult to win with Lab on the board.  The REBing on your own end step relies on them playing that draw spell.  If they know you have REB, they won't do it unless they have another Lab or something.  If they are good, they will just wait until their hand is infinite counterspells, and then even if you get rid of the Lab, you won't win through 3-4x counterspells.

[Evenpence]

Come on, Colby. This statement isn't really fair. You make yourself look like Super-Nice Guy and you make me look like Scrubby McDouche. What really happened in round 7 was Colby crushed me game 1, I crushed him game 2, and he had a significant advantage in game 3 with an Uba Mask out, when he accidently drew with the Mask in play and shuffled his hand, so he conceded at that point. He would've gotten the GL from the judge anyway, as he had already received penalties earlier in the day for the same infraction. Plus, I gave him $50 and bought him dinner. (At McDonald's, yes, but it was still dinner.)

Yeah, sorry about that Joe, I just meant to post quickly in my defense and didn't mean for it to be an exact measure of what happened.  I don't think anyone thinks you're a Scrubby McDouche.  You definitely accomplished something this weekend and no one, especially me, you know that, is going to try to take that away from you.

When I write a tournament report up, I fully intend to give you guys alot of credit - this short paragraph of a sentence wasn't supposed to be it.