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« on: September 19, 2006, 03:01:59 am » |
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Triskelavus
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Artifact Creature - Construct
Flying
This comes into play with 3 +1/+1 counters
1, Remove a counter from Triselavus: Put a 1/1 Triskelavite artifact creature token with flying into play. It has "Sacriffice this creature: This creature deals 1 damage to target creature or player"
1/1
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I love giant big artifacts. If anyone's still playing old-skool CS with maindeck Trike and Bus, this guy deserves consideration. It's a 4/4 flyer for 7 (the lose!) that makes flying Mogg Fanatics. Unfortunately, the kids can not get back on the New Bus.
Academy Ruins
Legendary Land
Tap: Add 1 to your mana pool
1U, tap: put target artifact card in your graveyard on top of your library.
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It recurs Lotus! It, umm, also recurs Lotus. And Lotus. Maybe, like a countered Juggernaut, too. Dude, you'd totally pwn n00bs that Drain Juggers if you could only recur them. <-- this is untrue! In other formats, might be busted. Allows for Slavelock in Extended Tron.
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2006, 06:24:39 am » |
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I really like academy ruins, this should have been Tolarian academy in the first place. The Triskelavus is nice in stax I suppose, but it doesnt really exite me.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2006, 08:40:14 am » |
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Only place I could see triskelavus played is CS as it offers the pinging functionality of trike with the infinite slaver lock of pentavus. Certainly not strictly better than either of them, but defintely worth at least a test run.
Academy Ruins seems to me like it could be played in stax, or in CS for infinite slaver lock.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2006, 09:39:01 am » |
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what color mana gives academy ruins?
The triskelavus can indeed be tested in slaver, both the abilities of pentavus and triskelion could save some MB space.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2006, 12:23:18 pm » |
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I really love Academy Ruins. First thing that came to my mind is just getting a chance to reuse lotus at opportune moments. Better than that though, its utility with Welder just hit me. First of all, he's an infinite lock with slaver and I'm sure that Stax wouldn't mind getting to play with its graveyard even more than it already does. This card definitely deserves some testing in those decks. Oh hell, it deserves testing in any deck with lotus.
As for Triskelavus, I'm not really sure where I stand with that card. I'll do some testing, but I'm very reluctant to say that he could go in and take the slots of the MD Colossus or Triskelion. Besides, Triskelion and Pentavus becoming 0/0's and dying was always really helpful to me when using them with Welder.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2006, 12:26:20 pm » |
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what color mana gives academy ruins?
Colorless. Oops. |
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2006, 12:49:37 pm » |
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I really love Academy Ruins. First thing that came to my mind is just getting a chance to reuse lotus at opportune moments. Better than that though, its utility with Welder just hit me. First of all, he's an infinite lock with slaver and I'm sure that Stax wouldn't mind getting to play with its graveyard even more than it already does. This card definitely deserves some testing in those decks. Oh hell, it deserves testing in any deck with lotus.
As for Triskelavus, I'm not really sure where I stand with that card. I'll do some testing, but I'm very reluctant to say that he could go in and take the slots of the MD Colossus or Triskelion. Besides, Triskelion and Pentavus becoming 0/0's and dying was always really helpful to me when using them with Welder.
triskelion never becomes 0/0, it's a 1/1 with 3 counters on it. you could just as easily kill this thing as you could triskelion and you could burn people out from a much higher life total now with welder tricks. I wonder if the cost to ping will make this card not good enough. |
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2006, 01:02:00 pm » |
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The cost to create the tokens was my original concern but it's just like Pentevus in that regard and it is hardly played in CS anymore. That could probably be argued because of the decline in Stax as of lately. This card is blend of the 2nd/3rd artifact currently run in CS, not better than any one initially but can be a great card to run in a meta full of Fish and Stax. It's definately worth testing.
The new academy land seems like it could be a real bomb at times especially in decks that run Welder. Other lands come to mind though when I see this. Oboro, is solid but is rarely played and so is Bosejiu (sp?). I think the reason for this is because of the mana intensity required to make them good. This is most notable with Bosejiu. It's worth testing in CS and Stax but may not make the cut, if only because of the mana intensity.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2006, 10:34:31 pm » |
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triskelion never becomes 0/0, it's a 1/1 with 3 counters on it. you could just as easily kill this thing as you could triskelion and you could burn people out from a much higher life total now with welder tricks. I wonder if the cost to ping will make this card not good enough. That would be a really important detail that I somehow fubbed up. Well, I guess that would change things. Still though, I think that Pentavus and Triskelion are better at their respective jobs. Triskelion costs less both in actual converted mana cost and in activating his ability. Pentavus lets the infinte slavers go for more turns if you have just one welder and it's bigger. I guess if you wanted a card to pull double duty this could do, but I really don't think it's necessary. |
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2006, 06:38:17 am » |
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Academy Ruins targeting Memory Jar has trouble written all over it!  Also, Black Lotus is sweeter the second time around as was already mentioned. It could also be broken with Tormod's Crypt. Now I have to find an extra space in like, every single one of my freaking decks for this land! Triskelavus is a very interesting option as well, all those evil dudes that play Slaver should love getting one dork that does both jobs. (Slave-locking and Pinging) I also like the idea of Extended TronSlaver with this card! I actually played Tron-Based Slaver when it was in Type 2 and old Extended. I would have killed to have Academy Ruins back then! Later, Dave |
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2006, 08:15:50 am » |
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Academy Ruins targeting Memory Jar has trouble written all over it!
Can you use the Ruins in response to breaking the Jar? So that you can draw it again? That would be busted. |
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2006, 09:29:19 am » |
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Well, since sacrificing the jar is a cost, I'm pretty sure you can.
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2006, 01:04:40 pm » |
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That's pretty busted! Or perhaps not. Still, I think I like the idea of doing that, and it certainly merits testing. To the Workstation, Robin!
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2006, 01:37:40 pm » |
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Recurring black lotus with that thing seems like a bad deal...you loose three mana on their turn to get 3 ekstra on your turn...Hmmm..usefull but hardly broken.
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2006, 02:00:09 pm » |
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Recurring black lotus with that thing seems like a bad deal...you loose three mana on their turn to get 3 ekstra on your turn...Hmmm..usefull but hardly broken.
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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2006, 02:32:56 pm » |
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I really hate to refer to standard answers like:
"~This~ is good with will" or "~This~ pitches to FoW"...lets just face it: Almost any card is good with will, and all blue cards pitches to fow.
As i said, i think the effect is usefull, but not broken....and i really don't want to weaken my mana-base for it.
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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2006, 02:59:26 pm » |
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what color mana gives academy ruins?
Colorless. Oops. I was SO excited about this card. I was like can I have one now please? ...but....now I'm sad. |
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