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« on: November 08, 2006, 12:13:01 pm »

4th november in Valencia (Spain)
168 players, 10 proxies allowed.
Only 9 swiss rounds, no top8.
 
1st-8th prize: 8 Black Lotus for Draft.
9th-16th prize: 1 Mox Sapphire, 3 Mox EMerald, 3 Mox Ruby and 1 Mox Pearl for Draft.

The tournament was awesome and everybody that went have a lot of fun. There was Mana Drains everywhere, very few combo and fish and an average amount of oath and MWS.decs.
The unique negative feedback was the low assistance for the great prizes. A very little assistance from out of Spain. I believe the byes were a heavy charge for the tournament.

Top32:

1º- Pablo David Diaz ---------- Gifts -----------------25
2º- Ruben Justo ---------------- Gifts --------------- 23
3º- Alejandro Escribano ------ Bomberman ----- 22
4º- Luis Miguel Muñoz ------- Oath----------------- 22
5º- Jaume Bonet --------------- Pitch Long ------- 22
6º- Jose Luis G. Requejo ----- Gifts --------------- 22
7º- César Fernández ---------- Control Slaver --- 22
8º- Jarno Triviño -------------- Bomberman ------- 22
09º- Jaime Cano --------------- Gifts ---------------- 21
10º- Josue Lopez --------------- Gifts --------------- 21
11º- Aurelio Crespo ------------ Bomberman ----- 21
12º- Juan Espadas ------------- Control Slaver --- 21
13º- David Menor -------------- Gifts ---------------- 21
14º- José Manuel Ávila -------- Gifts --------------- 21
15º- Juan José Vegas ----------- Gifts ------------- 21
16º- David Garzón -------------- Pitch Long ------- 21
17º- Carles Miñon -------------- Control Slaver --- 21
18º- David Pla ------------------- Stax ---------------- 20
19º- Abraham Ureña ----------- EBA --------------- 19
20º- Mario Blasco -------------- MUD ---------------- 19
21º- Miguel Alcoriza ------------ Oath -------------- 19
22º- Victor Casitas -------------- Oath -------------- 19
23º- Elías Úbeda -------------Sullivan Sollution---- 19
24º- Omar Rohner ---------- Control Slaver ------ 18
25º- David García ----------- Workshop Aggro --- 18
26º- Saul Aguado ----------- Goblin Control ------ 18
27º- Luis Rivero --------------- Gifts ------------------ 18
28º- Antonio Ortas -------------- Dragon ----------- 18
29º- Juan Luis Hinarejos ------- Masknought ---- 18
30º- Pablo Diaz ------------------ Cognivore Oath - 18
31º- Ramón Sanchez ------------ Gifts -------------- 18
32º- Borja Giraldo ---------Workshop Aggro ------ 18


1º - Pablo David Díaz - Gifts

Maindeck:

4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Brainstorm
3 Gifts Ungiven
2 Merchant Scroll
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Tinker
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Chain of Vapour
1 Rebuild
1 Recoup
1 Burning Wish
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Pithing Needle
1 Tormod’s Crypt
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand
2 Underground Sea
3 Volcanic Island
3 Island
1 Snow-Covered Island

SideBoard:

1 Tormod’s Crypt
1 Pithing Needle
1 Razormane Masticore
1 Sundering Titan
1 Bribery
2 Duress
1 Tendrils of Agony
2 Rack & Ruin
2 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Shattering Spree
1 Pyroclasm


2º- Rubén Justo - Gifts

Maindeck:

4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
3 Gifts Ungiven
2 Merchant Scroll
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Tinker
1 Plagiarize
1 Chain of Vapour
1 Rebuild
1 Recoup
1 Burning Wish
1 Pyroblast
1 Blood Moon
2 Duress
1 Dark Ritual
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Strand
2 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
5 Island

Sideboard:

2 Pithing Needle
2 Rushing River
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Duress
2 Rack & Ruin
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Blood Moon
1 Pyroblast
1 Shattering Spree
1 Pyroclasm
1 Gorilla Shaman
 

3º Alejandro Escribano - Bomberman

Maindeck:

4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Trinket Mage
3 Brainstorm
2 Counterbalance
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Wipe Away
3 Auriok Salvagers
1 Disenchant
2 Pithing Needle
2 Sensei’s Divining Top
2 Aether Spellbomb
1 Tormod’s Crypt
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
3 Tundra
1 Plains
4 Island
2 Polluted Delta
4 Flooded Strand

Sideboard:

1 Tormod’s Crypt
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Rebuild
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
2 Exalted Angel
2 Abeyance
2 Rule of Law
2 Disenchant
1 Decree of Justice
1 Kami of the Ancient Law
1 Seal of Cleansing


4º- Luis Miguel Muñoz - Oath

Maindeck:

4 Brainstorm
4 Impulse
4 Force of Will
3 Mana Leak
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Rushing River
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
1 Razia, Boros Arcangel
3 Duress
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
4 Oath of Druids
1 Crop Rotation
4 Chalice of the Void
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
2 City of Brass
4 Forbidden Orchard
1 Underground Sea
1 Tropical Island
2 Island
2 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand

Sideboard:

3 Null Rod
1 Darksteel Colossus
2 Simic Sky Swallower
2 Echoing Truth
1 Tinker
4 Oxidize
2 Ground Seal


5º- Jaume Bonet - Pitch Long

Maindeck:

4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
2 Misdirection
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Chain of Vapour
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Tinker
1 Mind’s Desire
4 Dark Ritual
4 Cabal Ritual
3 Grim Tutor
2 Tendrils of Agony
1 Imperial Seal
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Infernal Contract
1 Necropotence
1 Yawgmoth’s Bargain
1 Memory Jar
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Island
1 Swamp
3 Underground Sea
1 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta

Sideboard:

2 Tormod’s Crypt
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Sundering Titan
1 Chain of Vapour
1 Wipe Away
1 Rebuild
3 Duress
2 Plague Spitter
1 Massacre
2 Elvish Spirit Guide


6º- Jose Luis G. Requejo - Gifts

Maindeck:

4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
3 Gifts Ungiven
3 Merchant Scroll
2 Misdirection
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Chain of Vapour
1 Rebuild
1 Recoup
1 Burning Wish
4 Dark Confidant
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Strand
2 Island
2 Volcanic Island
4 Underground Sea

Sideboard:

1 Pithing Needle
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Rushing River
1 Tinker
3 Duress
1 Tendrils of Agony
2 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Shattering Spree
1 Gorilla Shaman
1 Pyroclasm
1 Rack and Ruin


7º- César Fernández - Control Slaver

Maindeck:

4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Brainstorm
1 Misdirection
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Echoing Truth
3 Goblin Welder
2 Gorilla Shaman
2 Night’s Whisper
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Mindslaver
1 Triskelion
1 Sundering Titan
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Strip Mine
1 Wasteland
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
2 Underground Sea
3 Volcanic Island
4 Island

Sideboard:

3 Sphere of Resistance
2 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Trinisphere
1 Tormod’s Crypt
1 Razormane Masticore
1 Duplicant
2 Rack and Ruin
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Pyroblast
1 Flametongue Kavu


8º- Jarno Triviño - Bomberman

Maindeck:

4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Trinket Mage
3 Brainstorm
2 Counterbalance
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Wipe Away
3 Auriok Salvagers
1 Disenchant
2 Pithing Needle
2 Sensei’s Divining Top
2 Aether Spellbomb
1 Tormod’s Crypt
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
3 Tundra
1 Plains
4 Island
2 Polluted Delta
4 Flooded Strand

Sideboard:

1 Tormod’s Crypt
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Rebuild
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
2 Exalted Angel
2 Abeyance
2 Rule of Law
2 Disenchant
1 Decree of Justice
1 Kami of the Ancient Law
1 Seal of Cleansing


9º- Jaime Cano - Gifts (Me)

Maindeck:

4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
3 Gifts Ungiven
3 Thirst for Knowledge
2 Merchant Scroll
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ancestral Recall
1 time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Rebuild
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth´s Will
1 Recoup
1 Burning Wish
1 Mind Twist
1 Pithing Needle
1 Tormod´s Crypt
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Lotus Petal
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Underground Sea
3 Volcanic Island
3 Island
2 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta

Sideboard:

1 Tormod´s Crypt
1 Hurkyll´s Recall
1 Rushing River
3 Duress
1 tendrils of Agony
1 Massacre
1 Lava Dart
1 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Pyroclasm
1 Shattering Spree
1 Rack and Ruin
1 Gorilla Shaman


10º- Josué Lopez - Gifts

Maindeck:

1 Recoup
1 Burning Wish
1 Tinker
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Rebuild
1 Yawgmoth´s Will
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Fact or Fiction
4 Merchant Scroll
4 Gifts Ungiven
4 Brainstorm
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
2 Misdirection
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Lotus Petal
4 Island
1 Snow-Covered Island
2 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
1 Tolarian Academy
3 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand

Sideboard:

1 Pyroclasm
1 Pithing Needle
1 Fire / Ice
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 Rack and Ruin
1 Hurkyll´s Recall
1 Deep Analysis
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Wipe Away
1 DarkBlast
1 Caltrops


11º- Aurelio Crespo - Bomberman

Maindeck:

4 Force of Will
4 Trinket Mage
4 Duress
4 Dark Confidant
3 Brainstorm
3 Dimir Cutpurse
2 Mana Drain
2 Mana Leak
2 Aether Spellbomb
2 Spell Snare
2 Auriok Salvagers
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Enginereed Explosives
1 Tormod´s Crypt
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
3 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
3 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand
2 Island
3 Underground Sea
3 Tundra

Sideboard:

1 Enegry Flux
2 Old Man of the Sea
2 Seal of Cleansing
1 Serenity
2 Katany, War´s Wage
2 Meddling Mage
1 Tormod´s Crypt
1 Pithing Needle
2 Swords to Plowshares
1 Umezawa´s Jitte


12º- Juan Espadas - Control Slaver

Maindeck:


1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
3 Volcanic Island
3 Underground Sea
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Library of Alexandria
3 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
4 Island
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
3 Thirst for Knowledge
2 Merchant Scroll
2 Skeletal Scrying
2 Goblin Welder
1 Gorilla Shaman
1 DarkSteel Colossus
1 Sundering Titan
1 Mindslaver
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Time Walk
1 Yawgmoth´s Will
1 Tinker
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Explosivos Diseñados
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Fire/Ice
1 Echoing Truth
1 Fact or Fiction

Sideboard

3 Disrupt
1 Red Elemental Blast
4 Sphere of Resistance
2 Rack and Ruin
1 Duplicant
1 The Abyss
1 Jester´s Cap
1 Tormod´s Crypt
1 Pyroclasm


13º- David Menor - Gifts

Maindeck:

4 Brainstorm
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ancestral Recall
2 Merchant Scroll
1 Time Walk
4 Mana Drain
1 Tinker
4 Thirst for Knowledge
2 Gifts Ungiven
1 Wipe Away
1 Fact or Fiction
2 Misdirection
4 Force of Will
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mana Crypt
2 Explosivos Diseñadps
1 Crucble of Worlds
1 Sundering Titan
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Regrowth
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth´s Will
1 Strip Mine
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Wasteland
1 Tropical Island
2 Underground Sea
2 Flooded Strand
3 Bloodstained Mire
4 Island

Sideboard:

4 Chalice of the Void
3 Energy Flux
1 Bribery
1 Enginereed Plague
1 Tormod´s Crypt
1 Goblin Charbelcher
2 Pithing Needle
2 Razormane Masticore


14º- Jose Manuel Ávila - Gifts

Maindeck:

4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
3 Gifts Ungiven
3 Merchant Scroll
4 Brainstorm
2 Misdirection
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Lotus Petal
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Tinker
1 Recoup
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Skeletal Scrying
1 Yawgmoth´s Will
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Rebuild
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Burning Wish
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Tendrils of Agony
4 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
2 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
2 Island
1 Snow-Covered Island
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy

Sideboard:

1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Deep Analysis
1 The Abys
1 Massacre
1 Pyroclasm
2 Duress
1 Shattering Spree
1 Rack and Ruin
2 Tormod´s Crypt
2 Pithing Needle
1 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast


15º- Juan José Vegas - Gifts

Maindeck:

3 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
3 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
3 Island
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Library of Alexandria
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
4 Brainstorm
3 Merchant Scroll
3 Gifts Ungiven
2 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Lotus Petal
1 REcoup
1 time Walk
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Burning Wish
1 Yawgmoth´s will
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Tinker
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Misdirection
1 Rebuild
1 Tendrils of Agony

Sideboard:

1 Massacre
1 Sundering Titan
1 Tormod´s Crypt
1 Hurkyll´s Recall
2 Rack and Ruin
2 Pithing Needle
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Wipe Away
1 Pyroblast
1 tendrils of Agony
1 Pyroclasm
1 Duress


16º- David Garzón - Pitch Long

Maindeck:

4 Force of Will
2 Misdirection
1 Mind´s Desire
4 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 TimeTwister
1 Tinker
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Rebuild
1 Windfall
1 Infernal Contract
1 Duress
2 Tendrils of Agony
3 Cabal Ritual
4 Dark Ritual
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Necropotence
1 Yawgmoth´s Bargain
1 Yawgmoth´s Will
1 Demonic Tutor
3 Grim Tutor
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Lotus Petal
1 Memory Jar
1 Toarian Academy
1 Island
1 Swamp
4 Polluted Delta
4 Underground Sea

Sideboard:

1 Darksteel Colossus
2 Massacre
1 Duress
3 Trickbind
2 Hurkyll´s Recall
2 Tormod´s Crypt
1 Bayou
3 Xantid Swarm
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2006, 12:44:16 pm »

Looks cool, although i wonder why anyone would play plagiarize?

Oh and i'd love to see the MUD deck..and the "Goblin Control" ?...and the masknought list Smile

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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2006, 12:48:11 pm »

What an awesome Prize Structure! We can only support 1 piece of power, plus a few mid-range cards as prizes out here in California, even with 10 proxies.

Thanks for lists...
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2006, 01:21:28 pm »

Whoa.  That Oath list looks almost exactly what the last GWS Oath deck looked like--SB and all.  Sweet.  Also nice to see Pitch Long making a top8 somewhere else in the world.

Where did all those "Intuitive" decks go?  Weren't those dominating the Catalonia league--which is in Spain?  Or am I just an idiot?
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2006, 02:20:52 pm »

Stax's results are garbage, as trends of late would indicate.

Sightown.

Congrats to that one dude who made 18th though.  Oh, and all the Gifts builds in the T8.  Go...Gifts...Yay...
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2006, 02:24:30 pm »


Glad that most of the Gifts decks that made top 16 listened to certain US counterparts and avoided playing TfKs, because they don't belong in Gifts. Oh wait...

On a more serious note, 8 of the top 16 decks were Gifts. Not a good sign.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2006, 03:58:48 pm »

I'm guessing that all the good players chose to go with powered decks rather then decks that beat them (IE few fishies, lots of stuff gifts beats)

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2006, 04:46:53 am »

Where did all those "Intuitive" decks go?  Weren't those dominating the Catalonia league--which is in Spain?  Or am I just an idiot?

Intuitive is very popular in Catalonia where a lot of Fish is played. I suppose Gifts a better deck choice if you plan to see few Fish decks, because it was a 10 proxy event.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2006, 10:40:42 am »

Gifts heavy meta makes cap heavy stax very happy Very Happy  I wish I played over there.
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2006, 12:09:32 pm »

With all the gifts, I would have opted for Grimlong or SS.  PRobobly Grimlong, because SS Blows.

Its Raining Men would have been an amazing deck, too.
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2006, 03:43:54 pm »

GrimLong?  In my experience, Gifts, at least the Meandeck version, is a horrible matchup for any variant of Long.  Turn 1 Merchant Scroll is insanely powerful against a deck that doesn't have a lot of protection for its win.  On the other hand, SS does have a crazy-good matchup against Gifts, as well as Long.
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2006, 03:55:10 pm »

I never fear gifts when playing long.  Xantid + Duress + speed is all you need.
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2006, 11:16:37 pm »

When thing I'm really happy to see is that the cut to Top 8 was completely clean.  It would be pretty heartbreaking to lose out on such a great prize because of tiebreakers, and it's very nice that everything worked out without anyone losing out on breakers (now, if someone drew in the last round when he shouldn't have, that's his own fault).
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2006, 09:25:40 am »

I have a few questions for the organizers :
- how many byes were distributed before the tournament ?
- since which round did people without byes meet some people with byes ?


The fact people with byes have a better pairing than people without is certainly modifying the results

I mean : if 32 pairs of 2 byes are distributed :
round 3   -> 16 match where people with byes meet themselves with 6 points
136 other men   -> max 34 other 6 points people that meet themselves (17 match)


round 4   ->  16 match  with 9 points for people with byes AND people without. byes meet byes ...
we can see that people winning with byes do not meet people winning without byes until the 5th-6th round. Abroad people would have always been behind the others ..

I think this is the main factor that lowered the number of participants. I would have been glad to come (from paris) but doing a 2500km trip to be the "victim" of a huge imbalance would have discussed me.

the quantity of byes (won in 12-20 people tournament) lead to imbalance..

sorry for my difficulties to explain myself in english, hope you understood...

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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2006, 03:48:40 pm »

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The cut for the top8 were not completely clean. The 9th playter in the top choose to play the 9th round beacuse he wanted to win the entire tournamente beacuse there was not top8 matches, only the swiss rounds. He wanted to play vs Pablo David in the 9th round and lost :***. I am that player XD.

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In the 3rd round the people with and without byes played already. There was 40 people with byes and in the top16 were:

1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 9th, , 11th and 12th.

I hated byes and we talk with the TO that in future tournaments there are no byes (maybe only 2 or 4 in 2 previous mid-large size range tourneys and some invitation for some Europeans champions)

About intuitive-decks the most successfully catalonian players with these decks, didn`t travel or didn't choose it for the tourney. And a group of catalonias people choose to not go to the tourney beacuse they do not like the proxies.
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2006, 04:00:10 pm »

Not going to an 8 Lotus tournament because you don't like proxies.  Man, that is crazy talk.
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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2006, 04:22:12 pm »

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The cut for the top8 were not completely clean. The 9th playter in the top choose to play the 9th round beacuse he wanted to win the entire tournamente beacuse there was not top8 matches, only the swiss rounds. He wanted to play vs Pablo David in the 9th round and lost :***. I am that player XD.

Seems clean to me.  A decision to play was made (based on greed), and it backfired.  Top 8 was not decided on tiebreakers because you decided that you would rather play for glory rather than take the sure thing.  Whose fault is it that you lost?
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2006, 04:58:13 pm »

Ok, it seems clean. Only if I were ID or win my final match a player with 22 points were 9th. The player 17th  didnt took a mox beacuse tiebrakers.
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