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Main Event 33 people, cut to top 8 after 6 rounds
1st: Mox Ruby 2nd: Mox Emerald 3rd: $25 Table Credit 4th: $25 Table Credit
AJ Grasso (Control Slaver) 1st 3 Volcanic Island 2 Underground Sea 2 Flooded Strand 3 Polluted Delta 3 Island 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Library of Alexandria 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Emerald 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Vault 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Lotus Petal 1 Sensei's Divining Top 1 Tormod's Crypt 1 Mindslaver 1 Sundering Titan 1 Triskelion 3 Goblin Welder 4 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Deep Analysis 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Fact or Fiction 1 Time Walk 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Fire/Ice 1 Echoing Truth 1 Merchant Scroll 1 Ponder 1 Brainstorm 1 Tinker 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Rack and Ruin 4 Mana Drain 4 Force of Will -------------------- 1 Engineered Explosives 2 Rack and Ruin 3 Thorn of Amethyst 2 Pyroclasm 1 Darksteel Colossus 3 Extirpate 3 Yixlid Jailer
Wayne Sibilia (Oath) 2nd 4 Tropical Island 4 Polluted Delta 2 Wasteland 2 Mishra's Factory 4 Forbidden Orchard 1 Strip Mine 2 Island 1 Black Lotus 1 Sol Ring 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Pearl 4 Oath of Druids 4 Thirst for Knowledge 4 Chalice of the Void 4 Force of Will 4 Mana Drain 2 Null Rod 1 Brainstorm 1 Ponder 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Merchant Scroll 1 Gaea's Blessing 1 Crop Rotation 1 Wipe Away 1 Life from the Loam 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Time Walk 1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath 1 Razia, Boros Archangel --------------------- 4 Pithing Needle 4 Leyline of the Void 4 Energy Flux 3 Oxidize
Michael Knight (2-Land Belcher) 3rd 1 Channel 4 Land Grant 4 Tinder Wall 4 Elvish Spirit Guide 1 Yawgmoth's Bargain 1 Demonic Consultation 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Tendrils of Agony 4 Street Wraith 4 Dark Ritual 1 Cabal Ritual 2 Simian Spirit Guide 1 Wheel of Fortune 1 Tinker 1 Timetwister 1 Windfall 1 Ancestral Recall 4 Manamorphose 1 Bayou 1 Taiga 4 Goblin Charbelcher 1 Chromatic Sphere 1 Memory Jar 1 Mana Vault 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Lion's Eye Diamond 1 Chrome Mox 1 Lotus Petal 1 Grim Monolith 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Black Lotus -------------------- 4 Leyline of the Void 4 Ancient Grudge 4 Guttural Response 3 Pyroblast
Dan Herd (Control Slaver) 4th 2 Volcanic Island 3 Underground Sea 2 Flooded Strand 3 Polluted Delta 1 Island 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Library of Alexandria 1 Academy Ruins 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Emerald 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Vault 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Lotus Petal 2 Sensei's Divining Top 1 Tormod's Crypt 1 Pithing Needle 1 Darksteel Colossus 2 Mindslaver 1 Platinum Angel 4 Goblin Welder 4 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Fact or Fiction 1 Time Walk 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Fire/Ice 1 Echoing Truth 1 Merchant Scroll 1 Brainstorm 1 Tinker 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will 4 Mana Drain 4 Force of Will -------------------- 3 Extirpate 3 Thorn of Amethyst 4 Thoughtseize 2 Tormod's Crypt 3 Flametongue Kavu
Shawn Anthony (Gilded Claw) 5th 4 Mishra's Workshop 4 City of Brass 3 Wasteland 2 Bazaar of Baghdad 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Strip Mine 1 Mishra's Factory 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Vault 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Emerald 1 Coalition Relic 4 Leyline of the Void 4 Juggernaut 4 Thorn of Amethyst 4 Goblin Welder 4 Chalice of the Void 2 Crucible of Worlds 1 Trinisphere 1 Tinker 2 Triskelion 1 Sundering Titan 1 Platinum Angel 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Balance 1 Karn, Silver Golem 1 Memory Jar 1 Crop Rotation -------------------- 4 Sphere of Resistance 4 Tangle Wire 4 Smokestack 2 Powder Keg 1 Tormod's Crypt
Rob Edwards (Painter's Servent) 6th 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Ruby 1 Lotus Petal 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 4 Underground Sea 4 Volcanic Island 2 Island 3 Polluted Delta 2 Flooded Strand 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Tinker 1 Darksteel Colossus 3 Painter's Servent 3 Grindstone 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Merchant Scroll 2 Intuition 4 Accumulated Knowledge 1 Brainstorm 1 Ponder 1 Gush 1 Ancestral Recall 4 Force of Will 4 Mana Drain 3 Red Elemental Blast 2 Pyroblast 1 Echoing Truth -------------------- 4 Leyline of the Void 1 Spawning Pit 1 Trickbind 2 Psychatog 1 Hurkyl's Recall 2 Mind Harness 2 Tormod's Crypt 1 Ignot Chewer
Dan Shelly (Bomberman) 7th 4 Force of Will 1 Pithing Needle 3 Kataki, War's Wage 4 Trinket Mage 4 Auriok Salvagers 4 Energy Flux 1 Darksteel Colossus 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Snow-Covered Plains 2 Plains 5 Island 1 Strip Mine 1 Tolarian Academy 2 Tundra 2 Flooded Strand 2 Windswept Heath 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Jet 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Time Walk 1 Brainstorm 1 Ponder 2 AEther Spellbomb 1 Pyrite Spellbomb 1 Tormod's Crypt 1 Lotus Petal 1 Tinker 1 Sensei's Divining Top -------------------- 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Pithing Needle 1 Platinum Angel 3 Aven Mindcensor 1 Gaea's Blessing 1 Chalice of the Void 1 Sensei's Divining Top 2 Swords to Plowshares 2 Hurkyl's Recall 2 Tormod's Crypt
Andy Bilarczyk (Green-Blue-Black Fish) 8th 4 Polluted Delta 4 Wasteland 4 Underground Sea 3 Bayou 3 Tropical Island 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Emerald 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Time Walk 3 Trinket Mage 3 Trygon Predator 4 Tarmogoyf 4 Dark Confidant 4 Duress 4 Thoughtseize 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Demonic Tutor 3 Pernicious Deed 3 Extirpate 2 Engineered Explosives 2 Tormod's Crypt 1 Diabolic Edict 1 Pithing Needle 1 Sensei's Divining Top -------------------- 3 Energy Flux 2 Umezawa's Jitte 4 Leyline of the Void 2 Diabolic Edict 4 Chains of Mephistopheles
Be sure to look for the upcoming Black Lotus event in August!
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2008, 02:25:41 pm » |
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Thanks to everyone that attended. It was definately an interesting event and meta. Thanks Shawn for posting the results. We'll be taking July off so you can vacation away, but we will be back on August 30th with a Black Lotus up for grabs!! See you then and thanks again, Mike - CCGames
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2008, 03:01:56 pm » |
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You played shops??? WTF? 
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2008, 03:40:50 pm » |
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Now these are the types of Top 8s that indicate a golden age of Vintage to me.
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2008, 04:14:37 pm » |
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Thanks for posting this!
This will be the VERY FIRST Tournament Results that go into y data set for the New Era of Vintage! It's the first 33+ player tournament of this time period!
And, oh, what a Surprise! Control Slaver wins.
I must very much disagree with my friend Shockwave. I am very much not looking forward to 2005 again. I'd much rather enjoy the forward oriented diversity and balance of the Tyrant Oath, Flash, Grow, Painter's Servant, Mud, Mono Red Workshop Aggro, Ichorid metagame last year with only Scroll restricted to weaken all of them a bit than replay 2005 all over again where Slaver was just clearly the best deck!
Oh well!
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2008, 04:29:59 pm » |
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Thanks for posting this!
This will be the VERY FIRST Tournament Results that go into y data set for the New Era of Vintage! It's the first 33+ player tournament of this time period!
And, oh, what a Surprise! Control Slaver wins.
I must very much disagree with my friend Shockwave. I am very much not looking forward to 2005 again. I'd much rather enjoy the forward oriented diversity and balance of the Tyrant Oath, Flash, Grow, Painter's Servant, Mud, Mono Red Workshop Aggro, Ichorid metagame last year with only Scroll restricted to weaken all of them a bit than replay 2005 all over again where Slaver was just clearly the best deck!
Oh well!
I would say this new meta is still in the infant stages. Aside the crazy slaver ELD tourney, it's been showing results just like GAT did. I wouldn't say this is a repeat of 2005. After all did GAT not come back from being dead and reign for a year?
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"Of all the major Vintage archetypes that exist and have existed for a significant period of time, Oath of Druids is basically the only won that has never won Vintage Championships and never will (the other being Dredge, which will never win either)." - Some guy who does not know vintage....
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2008, 05:26:47 pm » |
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Chalice x 4, Null Rod x 2, Life from the Loam, Strip mine, Wasteland x2 and Mishra's Factory x2 were an absolute beating all day long. There's probably a few things I'd change in the main deck and sideboard after playing the deck but not those cards. No way.
How cool is it to drive up with someone and split the finals with them!
Team 0-2 drop ftw I guess?
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2008, 05:27:27 pm » |
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I wouldn't go to far to say, Slaver is the best deck in the format. There were a ton of people playing it there, my guess would be 5-6. You have to factor, when so many people play a certain deck, thats going to up the chances of it winning. AJ is a very good player. I'm sure he could have pilet other decks, to first place.
I played AJ in the semi-finials, I thought I had game one won, when my Goblin Charbelcher hit the table with enough mana to activate it with only one land left in deck. My Bayou was only three cards down. I thought I had him next turn, he top deck Mana Crypt which able him to cast Rack in Ruin. I was like you main deck them.He Tinker Tian and won.
Game two I had to Mulligan down to six. I had plenty of mana spells Cabal Ritual and Dark Ritual but not enough busniess from what I remember. I think he Force something important and Tinker again, as in game one for the win.
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2008, 05:36:58 pm » |
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Chalice x 4, Null Rod x 2, Life from the Loam, Strip mine, Wasteland x2 and Mishra's Factory x2 were an absolute beating all day long. There's probably a few things I'd change in the main deck and sideboard after playing the deck but not those cards. No way.
How cool is it to drive up with someone and split the finals with them!
Team 0-2 drop ftw I guess?
Yes your deck was an aboslute ass beating on me. Having to deal with Force, Chalice, Null rod, Strip Mine, was completly not kool for me. You pick a very good deck to play there. AJ and you were the only ones who beat my Belcher deck, everyone else, I 2-0 them, congrats on the great finish.
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2008, 06:24:09 pm » |
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I just thought I'd stop by to give a big freaking congratulations to Shawn and Fester. Glad to know people are running the fun stuff I've been putting up!
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2008, 07:46:28 pm » |
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Now these are the types of Top 8s that indicate a golden age of Vintage to me.
 Fo Shiz I must very much disagree with my friend Shockwave. I am very much not looking forward to 2005 again. I'd much rather enjoy the forward oriented diversity and balance of the Tyrant Oath, Flash, Grow, Painter's Servant, Mud, Mono Red Workshop Aggro, Ichorid metagame last year with only Scroll restricted to weaken all of them a bit than replay 2005 all over again where Slaver was just clearly the best deck!
Oh well!
There are a lot more ongoing power events now than in 2005. We'll see the deck-to-beat change as often as people figure out how to beat them. And honestly, I think every deck is pretty much in the same tier right now. You can even play shit like Rector Trix and win. Everything is viable; just look at that top 8.
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2008, 10:00:59 pm » |
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I wouldn't go to far to say, Slaver is the best deck in the format. There were a ton of people playing it there, my guess would be 5-6. You have to factor, when so many people play a certain deck, thats going to up the chances of it winning. AJ is a very good player. I'm sure he could have pilet other decks, to first place.
I would. I honestly think Control Slaver is the best deck in the current format. Since the restrictions were announced I've been testing and tuning Control Slaver and clearly it paid off with this first place finish. 5 CS players in a 33 player field isn't exactly dominating numbers. I'm not sure what the exact deck break down was but I think you are right with that 5-6 CS decks guess. I played AJ in the semi-finials, I thought I had game one won, when my Goblin Charbelcher hit the table with enough mana to activate it with only one land left in deck. My Bayou was only three cards down. I thought I had him next turn, he top deck Mana Crypt which able him to cast Rack in Ruin. I was like you main deck them.He Tinker Tian and won.
Game two I had to Mulligan down to six. I had plenty of mana spells Cabal Ritual and Dark Ritual but not enough busniess from what I remember. I think he Force something important and Tinker again, as in game one for the win. Yeah, game one I savagely top decked you FTW. Game two you Land Granted which allowed me to correctly use my Mana Drain to win the game. I don't think Rack and Ruin is such an obscure card to be running in the main deck especially when you look at the metta game. There were 4 workshop decks in the T8 at the last Blue Bell. With the local popularity of Shops and the "X" open metta game slots in CS it made sense to me to play with that Rack and Ruin. When I sat down for Round 1 my opponent was playing workshops.
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2008, 10:05:59 pm » |
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Thanks for posting this!
This will be the VERY FIRST Tournament Results that go into y data set for the New Era of Vintage! It's the first 33+ player tournament of this time period!
And, oh, what a Surprise! Control Slaver wins.
I must very much disagree with my friend Shockwave. I am very much not looking forward to 2005 again. I'd much rather enjoy the forward oriented diversity and balance of the Tyrant Oath, Flash, Grow, Painter's Servant, Mud, Mono Red Workshop Aggro, Ichorid metagame last year with only Scroll restricted to weaken all of them a bit than replay 2005 all over again where Slaver was just clearly the best deck!
Oh well!
I was more referring to the fact that there were 7 different archetypes represented. I think that is as diverse as you can get. Surely, Slaver will be good, but I'm not convinced that it will be the best deck yet. It's still very early.
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2008, 09:30:03 am » |
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Congrats to Team 0-2 Drop
Shawn, what was the meta breakdown? I didn't see any Ichorid or R/G Beats.
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2008, 04:29:57 pm » |
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18 blue (4 cs, 2 bomberman, 2 UB, 2 oath, 2 painter, landstill, 2 drain tendrils, keeper, 3cc, bob) 5 shops (me, 5c, 2 red, affinity) 2 combo (belcher, grim) 8 aggro (6 fish, sui, goblins)
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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2008, 12:55:41 am » |
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Thanks for the lists.
Rob's deck misses a sideboard card. Dan's deck misses 3 maindeck cards.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2008, 12:24:39 pm » |
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18 blue (4 cs, 2 bomberman, 2 UB, 2 oath, 2 painter, landstill, 2 drain tendrils, keeper, 3cc, bob) 5 shops (me, 5c, 2 red, affinity) 2 combo (belcher, grim) 8 aggro (6 fish, sui, goblins)
4 Slaver out of 33 people certainly isn't the end of the world, we've had some crazy GAT GAT GAT GAT GAT GAT GAT shop top 8's if I recall correctly. The pilots were also fairly good players (AJ and Dan), so "dominating" 1/4 of the top 8 isn't 2005.
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Somebody tell Chapin how counterbalance works?
"Of all the major Vintage archetypes that exist and have existed for a significant period of time, Oath of Druids is basically the only won that has never won Vintage Championships and never will (the other being Dredge, which will never win either)." - Some guy who does not know vintage....
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2008, 03:33:52 pm » |
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it was a very good/healthy meta in my opinion...had a great time at this tournament, miss playing gush however
hopefully next time i don't play mistake myself out of top 8
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2008, 08:56:20 pm » |
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The pilots were also fairly good players (AJ and Dan)
haha, can't say I've heard that one before.
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2008, 09:21:53 pm » |
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4 Slaver out of 33 people certainly isn't the end of the world, we've had some crazy GAT GAT GAT GAT GAT GAT GAT shop top 8's if I recall correctly. The pilots were also fairly good players (AJ and Dan), so "dominating" 1/4 of the top 8 isn't 2005.
I'll point out that CS placed 6 out of the top 8 in a recent tourney[/one].
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2008, 09:27:51 pm » |
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The pilots were also fairly good players (AJ and Dan)
haha, can't say I've heard that one before. Yeah they suck
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2008, 10:03:24 pm » |
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5 shops (me, 5c, 2 red, affinity) 8 aggro (6 fish, sui, goblins)
That'd be more: 4 shops (you, 5c, 2 red) and 9 aggro (6 fish, sui, gobs, affinity No shops in my deck. I guess you'd know that if I'd done a decklist... I had an awful day of it, we got fairly lost on the way to a tournament we've been to plenty of times before and turned up like 5 mins from the end of round 1, then we all proceded to scrub out (Mike was nice enough to allow 2 of us to be paired, and we played a 1 game match that Ultima lucksacked his way through; Jason just didn't bother playing). At least we got some good EDH played. Then Jason got thrown out the strip club we stopped in on the way home for good measure...
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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2008, 10:37:55 pm » |
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I had an awful day of it, we got fairly lost on the way to a tournament we've been to plenty of times before and turned up like 5 mins from the end of round 1, then we all proceded to scrub out (Mike was nice enough to allow 2 of us to be paired, and we played a 1 game match that Ultima lucksacked his way through; Jason just didn't bother playing). At least we got some good EDH played. Then Jason got thrown out the strip club we stopped in on the way home for good measure...
I was the keeper player that boarded that trash card Energy Flux against you... Sorry I couldn't make your tournament today. Also, I think I am taking keeper again... lol
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