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« Reply #870 on: July 01, 2010, 02:49:58 pm » |
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A foil Voltaic Key. PIMP MY KEY!!! Yes!
And a new sword. Time to invest in those stoneforge mystics at last.
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« Reply #871 on: July 01, 2010, 03:05:40 pm » |
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And a new sword. Time to invest in those stoneforge mystics at last.
I am still quite suspicious about the new sword, but it does seem like a reasonable card for them to sell SOM with, assuming a power level similar to SOLS/SOFI. |
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #872 on: July 01, 2010, 10:53:42 pm » |
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And a new sword. Time to invest in those stoneforge mystics at last.
I am still quite suspicious about the new sword, but it does seem like a reasonable card for them to sell SOM with, assuming a power level similar to SOLS/SOFI. What is this new sword? |
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« Reply #873 on: July 02, 2010, 07:02:12 am » |
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Also, with almost no support there's a claim that 'Sword of Body and Mind' will be the name of the SOM preview card included in FTV:R. And... Stoneforge Mystic gets better. If it gives pro-green and generates card advantage millions of Tarmogoyfs out there will start crying.
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #874 on: July 02, 2010, 09:18:27 am » |
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I am still quite suspicious about the new sword, but it does seem like a reasonable card for them to sell SOM with, assuming a power level similar to SOLS/SOFI. Which barely saw play once they printed Jitte.  |
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« Reply #875 on: July 02, 2010, 09:32:07 am » |
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I am still quite suspicious about the new sword, but it does seem like a reasonable card for them to sell SOM with, assuming a power level similar to SOLS/SOFI. Which barely saw play once they printed Jitte. True, but you can only play one Jitte in EDH, which is where my primary interest in a new sword lies. Additionally, as I said, pro-green could be huge for Legacy, due to the Tarmogoyf 'problem'. |
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #876 on: July 03, 2010, 12:37:35 am » |
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I am still quite suspicious about the new sword, but it does seem like a reasonable card for them to sell SOM with, assuming a power level similar to SOLS/SOFI. Which barely saw play once they printed Jitte. I think Goyf and Knight of the Reliquary don't usually give a shit about Jitte. If you're playing a deck which can fetch Pro-Goyf material then really all you probably have to look out for is Pridemage and make sure he's good and dead (or ugh, Pithing Needle'd I guess) before you put your tech on the table. My favorite deck just got a new shiny.  EDIT - What the fuck? From M11... Hornet Sting G Instant Common Hornet Sting deals 1 damage to target creature or player. It's not a game changer, but why the fuck is it Green? |
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« Reply #877 on: July 03, 2010, 01:07:48 am » |
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Welcome the latest important factor in the Legacy Goyf mirror.
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« Reply #878 on: July 03, 2010, 08:49:33 am » |
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EDIT - What the fuck? From M11...
Hornet Sting G
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Hornet Sting deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
It's not a game changer, but why the fuck is it Green? Somebody really missed Unyaro Bee Sting? I don't get it either. |
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I suppose it's mostly the thought that this format is just one big Mistake; and not even a very sophisticated one at that.
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« Reply #879 on: July 03, 2010, 10:10:48 am » |
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EDIT - What the fuck? From M11...
Hornet Sting G
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Hornet Sting deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
It's not a game changer, but why the fuck is it Green? Somebody really missed Unyaro Bee Sting? I don't get it either. This is for casual players |
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« Reply #880 on: July 03, 2010, 12:01:22 pm » |
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It's for the lols, obviously.
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« Reply #881 on: July 03, 2010, 12:39:24 pm » |
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EDIT - What the fuck? From M11...
Hornet Sting G
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Hornet Sting deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
It's not a game changer, but why the fuck is it Green? Somebody really missed Unyaro Bee Sting? I don't get it either. This is for casual players Right, because only a casual player would want an Instant 1-mana answer to things like Goblin Lackey or Dark Confidant in a color that didn't really have proactive answers against them before. I take it back; this might be budget player's sideboard tech. Mono Green Aggro can now ping dorks that might matter or go to the face for the hilarious win. |
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« Reply #882 on: July 03, 2010, 12:48:21 pm » |
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EDIT - What the fuck? From M11...
Hornet Sting G
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Hornet Sting deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
It's not a game changer, but why the fuck is it Green? Somebody really missed Unyaro Bee Sting? I don't get it either. This is for casual players Right, because only a casual player would want an Instant 1-mana answer to things like Goblin Lackey or Dark Confidant in a color that didn't really have proactive answers against them before. I take it back; this might be budget player's sideboard tech. Mono Green Aggro can now ping dorks that might matter or go to the face for the hilarious win. If you're playing mono-green aggro, you've got much more problems that an opposing Dark Confidant |
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« Reply #883 on: July 03, 2010, 02:55:12 pm » |
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Yeah, I didn't say it was amazing. I just said they could. There's enough relevant x/1 guys that Do Good Things that a little kid with an Elf deck would want to kill somehow, and what better way than Green's shitty shitty Lava Dart? I guarantee at least one person that goes to TMD.com will lose to a Hornet Sting
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« Reply #884 on: July 03, 2010, 02:58:20 pm » |
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« Reply #885 on: July 03, 2010, 08:05:25 pm » |
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I guarantee at least one person that goes to TMD.com will lose to a Hornet Sting.
One copy in a Cunning Wish sideboard will eventually get the job done. And what a glorious moment that will be. I kind of wish Hornet Sting drew 3+ cards if it killed a player. Then it would be one of the greatest multiplayer cards ever. |
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« Reply #886 on: July 03, 2010, 09:15:54 pm » |
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I guarantee at least one person that goes to TMD.com will lose to a Hornet Sting.
One copy in a Cunning Wish sideboard will eventually get the job done. And what a glorious moment that will be. I kind of wish Hornet Sting drew 3+ cards if it killed a player. Then it would be one of the greatest multiplayer cards ever. Lavadart still seems better for killing a player. And in multiplayer, it can take down two opponents. |
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« Reply #887 on: July 03, 2010, 09:27:37 pm » |
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Im surprised nobody has brought this up yet:
Will Jace 2.0 be in M11? I think its a 50-50 shot.
The fact that he's $70 irl and $90 on mtgo makes me hope that we'll get him. I know that M11 was made and set before Worldwake even came out, but I think that the good people at WoTC aren't as dumb as the Banned/Restricted list leads us to beleive. I have to think they knew how dominant and expensive he'd be, as a mythic in a set that barely got drafted. Also, M11 is really crazy powerful and WoTC seems to want to go all out with it, and having jace 2.0 would certainly accomplish that.
On the other hand, I can also see why he wouldn't be. Jace 2.0 wasn't even too expensive until Rise came out, Ajani and Garruk remain the same as they've been in the past, and Jace 1.0 seems like much more of a casual player's card, and ultimately, coresets are for the casual player.
Anywho, it seems 50-50 to me, but I'm leaning on the side of "Yes", since LVS, who "predicted" hidden treasure also predicted Jace 2.0.
Guess we'll see in a few days
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« Reply #888 on: July 04, 2010, 05:30:21 pm » |
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Redirection  Instant You may choose new targets for target spell. Call to Mind  Sorcery Return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand. Cool. |
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« Reply #889 on: July 04, 2010, 06:28:59 pm » |
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Call to Mind is really great with Leyline of Anticipation
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« Reply #890 on: July 04, 2010, 07:28:24 pm » |
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Sword of Vengeance
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Equipped creature gets +2/+0 and has first strike, vigilance, trample and haste.
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When wielded by a true believer, it matters little whether the sword is a relic or a replica
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« Reply #891 on: July 04, 2010, 09:37:57 pm » |
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Sword of Vengeance
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Equipped creature gets +2/+0 and has first strike, vigilance, trample and haste.
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When wielded by a true believer, it matters little whether the sword is a relic or a replica
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I suppose it's mostly the thought that this format is just one big Mistake; and not even a very sophisticated one at that.
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« Reply #892 on: July 04, 2010, 11:25:37 pm » |
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C'mon Wizards, SoV should be 2 to equip.  |
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« Reply #893 on: July 06, 2010, 04:31:14 am » |
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Mystifying Maze Land Rare  : Add 1 to your mana pool 4, : Exile target attacking creature an opponent controls. At the beginning of the next end step, return it to the battlefield tapped under its owner's control. Illus. Robh Ruppel #226/249 This seems kind of interesting. Perhaps Maze of Ith outclasses this in every way for eternal formats...but. Maybe fish decks can stifle the return to play thing. :/ |
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« Reply #894 on: July 06, 2010, 10:19:37 am » |
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Plus this does tap for mana, at least.
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« Reply #895 on: July 06, 2010, 10:39:07 am » |
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This is probably most relevant against Iona. That said...this thing is no surprise: an Oath player needn't attack into it.
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« Reply #896 on: July 06, 2010, 10:58:40 am » |
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The "Ivory Mask" Leyline is officially Leyline of Sanctity. Unfortunately, the ORIGINAL version of Jace will be in M11. Also: Stormtide Leviathan  Creature - Leviathan Islandwalk All lands are Islands in addition to their original type. Creatures without flying or islandwalk can't attack. 8/8 Manic Vandal  Creature - Human Warrior When Manic Vandal enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact. 2/2 Garruk's Companion  Creature - Beast Trample 3/2 |
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« Reply #897 on: July 07, 2010, 08:22:08 am » |
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Actually the White Leyline gives you Trollshroud, which is waaaay better than Ivory Mask.
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« Reply #898 on: July 07, 2010, 08:40:57 am » |
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Too bad Manic Vandal isn't a goblin. He'd probably be playable then.
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« Reply #899 on: July 07, 2010, 09:46:31 am » |
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Playable...maybe. The issue is that barring a realistic CC for Aether Vial (since cc 3 means I can't drop it before turn 4), other goblins like Tinkerer, Vandal, or Tin-Street Hooligan will always be situationally better. I honestly believe that if they printed the card I'm suggesting below, Goblins and Oath would be the only tier 1 strategies in the format. Ronom Goblin  Creature - Goblin Sacrifice Ronom Goblin: Destory target artifact. 2/2 |
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