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I just want to see a memnarch planeswalker This would kick so much ass! |
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« Reply #1021 on: September 05, 2010, 06:49:33 am » |
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Venser's a chase mythic if I ever saw one.
30 bucks in no time
Because its a planeswalker? Because if you have a wall of omens in play, it says "+2, Draw a card" |
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« Reply #1022 on: September 05, 2010, 07:18:28 am » |
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Elspeth Tirel 3WW
4 Loyalty
+2 Gain 1 Life for each creature you control
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-5 Destroy all other permanents except for lands and tokens
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« Reply #1023 on: September 05, 2010, 08:00:30 am » |
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Elspeth Tirel 3WW
Hard to gauge. It can kill all creatures every other turn...so very Mageta the Lion on that front. And it's a one-sided Wrath since you'll put it in a dedicated token. Question becomes if a token deck will be viable outside this card. Goes into Isamaru EDH without question. |
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« Reply #1024 on: September 05, 2010, 08:55:16 am » |
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Venser's a chase mythic if I ever saw one.
30 bucks in no time
Because its a planeswalker? Because if you have a wall of omens in play, it says "+2, Draw a card" This is a short list of the original text the designers wanted to put on Venser. +2 Draw a card +2 Look at the top three cards of your library, then put them back in any order. +2 Put a -1/-1 counter on target creature +2 Reset loyalty (Sarkhan the Mad?) +2 Steal back target Mind Controlled creature +2 Put a 0/1 green Plant creature token onto the battlefield +2 Attack for 2 with a Mulldrifter, then Draw 2 cards. +2 Blink Venser, Shaper Savant and regrowth a counter spell every turn until you ultimate. -1 Attack target player with poison counters -1 Attack target planeswalker -1 Attack for lethal -1 Connect with Swords -8 Scoop They consolidated it to the current wording for practical reasons |
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« Reply #1025 on: September 05, 2010, 08:57:07 am » |
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Elspeth Tirel 3WW
Hard to gauge. It can kill all creatures every other turn...so very Mageta the Lion on that front. And it's a one-sided Wrath since you'll put it in a dedicated token. Question becomes if a token deck will be viable outside this card. Goes into Isamaru EDH without question. The drawback being you can only wrath once, since it destroys all non-land & non-token permanents. He kills himself. EDIT: oops I missed the word "other"...guess he is pretty solid. |
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« Reply #1026 on: September 05, 2010, 08:58:04 am » |
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Elspeth Tirel 3WW
Hard to gauge. It can kill all creatures every other turn...so very Mageta the Lion on that front. And it's a one-sided Wrath since you'll put it in a dedicated token. Question becomes if a token deck will be viable outside this card. Goes into Isamaru EDH without question. The drawback being you can only wrath once, since it destroys all non-land & non-token permanents. He kills himself. He doesn´t kill himself |
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« Reply #1027 on: September 05, 2010, 09:56:54 am » |
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Herself. Venser is solid, he will stay 35ish. I'm waiting for Karn. I want a bad ass walking golem.
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« Reply #1028 on: September 05, 2010, 12:50:34 pm » |
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Karn won't be in this set, it will be in New Phyrexia or the other one.
Here's my speculation for Glimmerpost:
Glimmerpost
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At the beginning of the end step, if you control no artifacts, sacrifice Glimmervoid.
T: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool for each Locus on the battlefield, Glimmerpost deals one damage for each mana added this way.
That would mean tapping 2 glimmerposts would deal 4 damage and tapping 3 would deal 9.
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way too overpowered. Trumps city of brass by a fairly large margin.
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« Reply #1029 on: September 05, 2010, 11:55:25 pm » |
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 MaRo just said that Scars of Mirroden will be a poison set. Like, lots of poison. Drafting will be a nightmare! (overpowered fun nightmare!) |
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« Reply #1030 on: September 06, 2010, 12:48:20 am » |
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The set also looks to have a cycle of spellbombs, the first of which spoiled is the white version. I will be curious if any of these will have the power level to be singletons in vintage bomberman or the hybrid that won minneapolis legacy 5k a few weeks back. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=110225&d=1283745765They are templated a tad differently. |
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« Reply #1031 on: September 06, 2010, 06:55:45 am » |
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@conboy31: This is not a cycle of Spellbombs. This is a colorless spellbomb.
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« Reply #1033 on: September 06, 2010, 08:19:31 am » |
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oh wow, you're right. Will be interesting to see what the others do!
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« Reply #1034 on: September 06, 2010, 10:09:16 am » |
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My new dream play from SOM: Tinker, sacrificing Wurmcoil Engine, for Sharuum returning Wurmcoil Engine to play. Nice, huh?  |
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« Reply #1035 on: September 06, 2010, 11:03:06 am » |
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Nice play Troy. Can you eat Wurmcoil Engine AND its tokens for Phyrexian Dreadnought? How does this work with the rules?
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« Reply #1036 on: September 06, 2010, 12:56:25 pm » |
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No, sadly, that won't work. There's no time for the tokens to come into play after eating the Engine.
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« Reply #1037 on: September 07, 2010, 09:14:23 pm » |
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« Reply #1038 on: September 07, 2010, 09:17:44 pm » |
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Wow, that's guy is the boss.
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« Reply #1039 on: September 07, 2010, 09:40:26 pm » |
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So he's a Platinum Angel that doesn't protect you from Decking or Poison. Pfft.
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« Reply #1040 on: September 07, 2010, 10:29:44 pm » |
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I believe you can pay life iwth that in play, which makes Necro and Bargain LOLz.
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« Reply #1041 on: September 07, 2010, 10:30:33 pm » |
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Slaver has been confirmed on channelfireball
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« Reply #1042 on: September 07, 2010, 10:36:14 pm » |
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I believe you can pay life iwth that in play, which makes Necro and Bargain LOLz.
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« Reply #1043 on: September 07, 2010, 11:51:42 pm » |
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I believe you can pay life iwth that in play, which makes Necro and Bargain LOLz.
According to everything I have read, you cant pay for necro or bargin, or even pop a fetch. Thats at least what most of the posters in the thread spoiling it seem to have said. Yeah his reminder text specifically says "You can't pay any amount of life other than zero." |
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« Reply #1044 on: September 08, 2010, 12:18:54 am » |
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The drawback being you can only wrath once, since it destroys all non-land & non-token permanents. He kills himself.
He doesn´t kill himself [/quote] She. It's Elspeth. |
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« Reply #1045 on: September 08, 2010, 02:17:48 am » |
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http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/boab/107Grand Architect is pretty exciting. He's a lord, and 1/3 is often better than 2/2. He also turns all of your blue creatures into mini-Workshops. I'm not sure he'll see Vintage or Legacy play, but he certainly has a high enough power level to do so.
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« Reply #1046 on: September 08, 2010, 04:19:51 am » |
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 Just to clarify, it taps for 2 mana. also:  I started playing tourney Vintage during Mirroden block, and Mirroden shook thinks up for sure. I think Scars is still just scratching the surface here. |
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« Reply #1047 on: September 08, 2010, 04:26:07 am » |
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the Grand Architect looks like it could be used for some shenanigans with REB/Pyroblast ? Perhaps adding Karn to the mix ?
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« Reply #1048 on: September 08, 2010, 04:27:56 am » |
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Maybe mix with this guy for some really high cost artifact activations:  Who knows? |
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