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Jake Kempfer Owen Turtenwald Owen Turtenwald Ryan DuBois Mike Solymossy Ryan DuBois
Owen Turtenwald Owen Turtenwald Tommy Kolowith
Tommy Kolowith Daniel Friedman Tommy Kolowith James King William Moran James King Lists:
Owen Turtenwald 5 Color Tezzeret
4 Force of Will 4 Mana Drain 4 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Donksteel Colossus 1 Tezzeret, the Seeker 1 Fact or Fiction 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Tinker 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Transmute Artifact 1 Fire/ice 1 merchant Scroll 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Regrowth 1 Echoing Truth 1 Ancient Grudge 1 Time Walk 1 Time Vault, which Stephen Menendian Singlehandedly Rescued from Oblivion 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Vampiric tuor 1 mystical tutor 1 Brainstorm 1 Ponder 1 Red Elemental Blast 1 Voltaic Key 1 Sensei's Divining Top 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mana Vault 1 Sol Ring 5 Moxen 4 Polluted Delta 3 Flooded Strand 2 Vvolcanic Island 2 Tropical Island 1 Underground Sea 1 Tundra 2 Island ----- 4 Tarmogoyf 3 Ethersworn Cannonist 2 Pithing Needle 2 Tormods Crypt 1 Ingot Chewer 1 Glen Endra Archmage 1 Ancient Grudge 1 pyroblast
TK UBW fish 4 Dark Confidant 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Time Walk 4 Force of Will 3 Daze 2 Null Rod 3 Swords To Plowshares 4 Standstill 3 Stifle 2 Vendilion Clique 3 ethersworn Cannonist 1 Jotun Grunt 2 Isamaru, Hound of Awful 3 Stormscape Apprentice 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Black Lotus 1 Island 1 Plains 3 Tundra 2 Underground Sea 3 Mishra's Factory 4 Flooded Strand 2 Polluted Delta 3 Wasteland 1 Strip Mine ---- 2 Umezawa's Jitte 1 Kami of Ancient Law 1 Ronom Unicorn 3 Threads of Disloyalty 2 Kataki, War's Wage 3 Energy Flux 2 Thoughtseize 1 Duress
James King Tezzeret
4 Force of Will 4 Mana Drain 4 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Tinker 1 Brianstorm 1 Ponder 1 Darksteel Collossus 1 mystical Tutor 1 Fact or Fiction 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Sensei's Divining Top 1 Merchant Scroll 1 Yawgmoths Will 1 Ancient Grudge 1 Demonic tutor 1 Time Vault 1 Red Blast 1 Pyroblast 1 Regrowth 1 Echoing Truth 1 Tezzeret The Seeker 1 Ancestral recall 1 tormods crypt 1 vampiric tutor 1 Voltaic Key 9 usual suspects 4 flooded strand 4 polluted delta 2 tropical island 1 underground sea 2 volcanic island 1 snowcovered island 1 island 1 tomarian academy --- 1 red blast 1 tormods crypt 2 pithing needle 1 yixlid jailer 1 krosan grip 1 ancient grudge 3 ethersworn canonist 1 tundra 4 tarmogoyf
Ryan Dubois (Duby) Oath
4 Force of Will 4 Thoughtseize 4 Mana Leak 4 Chalice of the Void 4 Oath of Druids 4 Impulse 1 Hellkite Overlord 1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath 1 Merchant Scroll 1 Gaea's Blessing 1 Ancestral recall 1 Time Walk 1 Misdirection 1 Echoing Truth 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Brainstorm 1 Ponder 1 Black Lotus 5 Moxen 1 Scroll Rack 4 Forbidden Orchard 2 Wasteland 1 Strip Mine 3 Polluted Delta 2 Flooded Strand 3 Underground Sea 1 Tropical ISsland 1 Island ----- 2 Tormods Crypt 2 Firespout 2 Trygon Predator (Cuz this guy is good in oath?) 3 Oxidise 2 Simic Sky Swallower 2 Arcane Laboratory 1 Engineered Explosives
Jake Kempfer Slaver
4 force of will 4 Mana drain 4 Thirst for knowledge 4 Strrategic Planning 1 Fire ice 1 Tinker 1 Time Walk 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Pyroblast 1 Red Blast 1 Merchant Scroll 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Misdirection 1 Mindslaver 3 Goblin WElder 3 Magus of the Moon 1 Duplicant 1 Brainstorm 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Echoing Truth 1 Sundering Titan 10 Usual Suspects 3 Polluted Delta 2 Flooded Strand 3 Volcanic Island 5 Island 1 tolarian Academy ---- 3 Energy Flux 3 Arcane Lab 3 Glen Endra Archmage 2 Threads of Disloyalty 1 Magus of the moon 1 pyroclasm 1 Razormane Masticore 1 Tormods Crypt
Mike Solymossy GWSX
1 Mystical Tutor 1 Demonic tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Demonic Consultation 4 Tendrils of Agony 1 necropotence 1 Timetwister 1 Ad Naseum 1 Yawgmoths Will 2 Nights Whisper 1 Time Walk 1 Chain of vapor 1 rebuild 1 hurkyls recall 1 repeal 1 thoughtseize 4 duress 1 sensei's divining top 1 ponder 1 brainstorm 1 ancestral recall 4 dark ritual 3 cabal ritual 4 dark confidant 9 usual suspects (no mana vault) 4 polluted delta 1 flooded strand 1 bloodstained mire 3 underground sea 2 swamp 1 island --- 1 scrubland 1 island 1 hurkyls recall 1 yixlid jailer 4 ethersworn cannonist 1 engineered explosives 2 tormods crypt 1 pithing needle 3 cabal therapy
Danny Friedman Painter
3 Flooded Strand 2 Polluted Delta 1 Tolarain Academy 4 Island 4 Volcanic Island 2 Pyroblast 2 Red Blast 2 Goblin Welder 1 Mindslaver 1 Sundering Titan 3 Painter's Servant 2 Grindstone 4 Accumulated Knowledge 3 thirst for knowledge 1 ponder 1 Fact or fiction 1 merchant scroll 1 time walk 1 tinker 1 ancestral recall 1 voltaic key 1 time vault 2 intuition 1 brainstorm 4 force of will 4 mana drain 8 usual suspects (no vault, no petal) --- 1 trinisphere 3 pyroclasm 1 pyroblast 3 magus of the moon 2 ingot chewer 2 viashino heretic 3 tormods crypt
William moran Um?.dec
4 Impulse 4 Stifle 2 trinket Mage 4 PHyrexian Dreadnaught 3 Duress 4 Force of will 3 Illusionary Mask 3 Dark confidant 1 brainstorm 1 ancestral recall 1 engineered explosives 1 darksteel colossus 1 tinker 1 demonic tutor 1 vampiric tutor 1 pithing needle 1 mystical tutor 1 lotus petal 1 mox sapphire 1 mana crypt 1 black lotus 1 sol ring 1 seat of the synod 4 underground sea 1 volcanic island 3 gemstone mine 4 tropical island --- 4 tarmogoyf 1 dark blast 2 wipe away 3 trickbind 1 pithing needle 1 engineered explosives 3 null rod
This tournament was a blast. Finish First!
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2008, 03:27:27 am » |
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Owen might not be able to win a PTQ, but he can certainly clean up the Vintage events. Nice job buddy!
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2008, 05:27:23 am » |
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Thanks for the write-up Soly.
That is one scary manabase there Owen. You couldn't find a slot for like an Academy Ruins or a Mutavault in there?
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M.Solymossy
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2008, 01:58:22 pm » |
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Thanks for the write-up Soly.
That is one scary manabase there Owen. You couldn't find a slot for like an Academy Ruins or a Mutavault in there?
You forgot vesuva.
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2008, 04:58:20 pm » |
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Ya don't get me wrong if I play the deck again the mana could be better, but im not about to cut a color. Also Transmute Artifact is wildly unplayable garbage.
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IDK why you're looking for so much credibility: You top 8ed a couple tournaments. Nice Job!
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2008, 10:13:30 pm » |
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owen what would you suggest as changes to the deck i was looking for a good list to play on a tourny on saturday and that list looks like something i would enjoy playing. and how many people were in this tournament?
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2008, 01:10:00 am » |
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im not sure why soly decided to list owen as the winner when I clearly won the die roll, and skulled his shitty 5 color deck in the swiss
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2008, 01:15:58 am » |
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im not sure why soly decided to list owen as the winner when I clearly won the die roll, and skulled his shitty 5 color deck in the swiss
Maybe he was due to win the next one then?
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2008, 01:40:37 am » |
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Actually, Owen smashed you. Don't lie, tommy 
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2008, 01:43:16 am » |
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Yup, played out finals and I won. Don't see how you got this die roll story mixed up with the facts.
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IDK why you're looking for so much credibility: You top 8ed a couple tournaments. Nice Job!
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2008, 02:08:39 am » |
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I was there. No way Owen would ever lose to TK, especially in that matchup.
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2008, 02:58:35 am » |
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im not sure why soly decided to list owen as the winner when I clearly won the die roll, and skulled his shitty 5 color deck in the swiss
Because Owen finished first. Need I say more? Besides, that guy is so cool. C'mon, he litters. BTW Owen Transmute Artifact is off-the-chart good. You just need a better build that can harness the inherent power of such a broken card  .
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2008, 12:40:03 pm » |
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im not sure why soly decided to list owen as the winner when I clearly won the die roll, and skulled his shitty 5 color deck in the swiss
Because Owen finished first. Need I say more? Besides, that guy is so cool. C'mon, he litters. BTW Owen Transmute Artifact is off-the-chart good. You just need a better build that can harness the inherent power of such a broken card  . completely agree. Owen finished first and left TK upset.
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2008, 01:38:09 pm » |
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Owen! Great deck so far! Terrible manabase! Just atrocious! But the deck's really solid. White may have to be cut... Ugh. Maybe Duress effects post v. TPS?
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2008, 02:13:57 pm » |
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Owen, you're really close to my 4 color Tezz list. Interesting both top 4 Tezz lists had MD ancient grudge. Maybe Steve should update his composite list, because that piece of tech is definitely a top meta choice right now of the good players running tezz.
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« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2008, 03:51:15 pm » |
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If I played Owens tez list again I would consider adding more ancient grudge. That card was awesome all day.
The mana base is a little shaky, but Its not really aweful. It reminds me of legacy thresholds manabase. If they waste a duel you just fetch out another.
And I do believe TK was the winner because he beat me in top4 and I dont like losing to a loser.
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2008, 03:56:02 pm » |
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why was TK only running deuce null rod?!
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2008, 06:37:32 pm » |
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@ Soly: 2 Trygon Predator (Cuz this guy is good in oath?) Duh, that guy is straight up busted in oath  Remember saying this? You're gunna get crushed... as always. Looks like you were right, you should talk to yourself more often. And for all the haters out there, King James Oath is still the biggest badass of all the current oath decks.
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« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2008, 06:51:26 pm » |
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TK, any comments on your creature-base selection? Definitely some more intersting choices in Stormscape and even Vendilion Clique while eschewing more mainstream selections like Meddling Mage or even the new saucy Tidehollow Sculler. Any changes that you'd make?
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2008, 07:28:33 pm » |
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why was TK only running deuce null rod?!
Because he hasnt played vintage in months and didn't know any better, that should also explain some of his other retarded card choices.
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IDK why you're looking for so much credibility: You top 8ed a couple tournaments. Nice Job!
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« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2008, 07:46:17 pm » |
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Also the manabase was fine for me, it needs a 3rd Island for sure against stax and Moon effects but otherwise it was fine. Sure its a '5-color' Tezzeret deck but you are never truly a 5-color deck as in each match up you can easily board out 1-2 colors and make your mana requirements easier.
I just started with a Tezzeret shell and splashed what I felt were all the most powerful cards. Black for DT and Will (and Vamp which sucks but gets Key and Vault). Red for Rebs and Ancient Grudge which I feel give you a big edge in the mirror. Green for Regrowth which is just busted, Tarmogoyf, and Ancient Grudge. And lastly white for Ethersworn Canonist because Tez is supposed to be the underdog against storm combo.
Two final points which made me fine with playing the full 5 would be the fact that in the matchups where you are the most colors, they just don't play Wasteland or any mana hate. And you could just play Sphere of Resistance/Trinisphere as your combo hate but they can win past that and I liked Canonist alot since he doesn't count himself as your spell for the turn so you can run him out there and watch your opponent play into your Drains and Forces. Barring a Phyrexian Negator a resolved Canonist backed up with a Reb is pretty much game.
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IDK why you're looking for so much credibility: You top 8ed a couple tournaments. Nice Job!
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« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2008, 09:04:56 pm » |
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what owen said was pretty correct i hadnt played vintage in a month and just through together that list without testing it. i was relitively happy with most of my card choices. the worst card in my deck was deffinately canonist and got boarded out most of the day. i almost played sculler but expected more bug fish and didnt like the prospect of having to cast a dude off 2 dual lands. also by not playing sculler i felt more comfortable putting a basic plains in my deck.
Stormscape apprentice was pretty unreal all day as i thiought he would be. The deck was good and ill probably run it again with a few changes after seeing what people are playing.
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2009, 10:26:08 pm » |
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How many people played in this tournament?
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2009, 11:33:37 pm » |
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I can't remember... it was 21 I want to say, but I might be wrong.
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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2009, 01:11:20 am » |
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22 or 24 I believe.
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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2009, 02:58:01 pm » |
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I think it was more on the 24 end
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2009, 03:02:09 pm » |
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No combo, or did they all get beat?
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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2009, 05:36:58 pm » |
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Um.... did you see MY decklist?
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