TMD OPEN 13 - March 21-22, Stratford, Ct. (First prize = up to $1000)

[iamfishman]

With regard to repeat byes.  I had a chunk from the last bye list cut and pasted accidentally leaving some previous results.  It should be all fixed now.

[M.Solymossy]

So I can pay for a bye if I go, correct?

[LordHomerCat]

Worlds-Mike Soly

Yes.

[Sporkcore]

Hopefully I can take off from both my jobs to make it up with the rest of the Long Islanders.

[M.Solymossy]

Worlds-Mike Soly

Yes.

Yeah I wasn't too sure if it was actually "paid for" as in, free for my world's top 8, or I'd still have to pay for it.


If I can get a chance to go, I will show up and wreck face.

[Harlequin]

Dopeness Factor: The number of two-digit positive integers   that have the property that the sum of   and the number obtained by reversing the order of the digits of   is a perfect square?

Am I missing something?  The answer to this better not be 3 (20, 40, 80). 

Part of the reason TMD open is so great is because I get to waste a whole day trying to solve the dopeness factor.  If that's the answer, then I did this one in my head?!  boo.

[Englishman_in_NH]

In terms of the dopeness factor I may be confused but I thought the answer was 4 (10,18,40,63), but maybe I misunderstood the math.

[BC]

10, 18, 40, 63, 90

[Tha Gunslinga]

I reserved my room just now.  The prices advertised on Orbitz and Expedia were exactly the same as the price offered by the Ramada over the phone--$79/night.

[LordHomerCat]

I might be interested (well, I am interested, but I might actually be willing to go).  Travis-Con 1 was awesome, and I've never been to an actual TMD Open.

[Nomad]

In terms of the dopeness factor I may be confused but I thought the answer was 4 (10,18,40,63), but maybe I misunderstood the math.

It's quite reasonable to be confused. 

As written

Dopeness Factor: The number of two-digit positive integers x that have the property that the sum of the digits and the number obtained by reversing the order of the digits of x is a perfect square?

one could interpret that as:
It's a number with 2 digits n and m so is 10n + m.  We want the reverse [10m +n], plus the sum of the digits [n+m] to be a perfect square.  So that's 11m+2n to be a perfect square.  Cheating, and just putting them into Excel and SQRT the 11m+2n values, it's very easy to spot that the dopeness factor is 5, with the numbers 27, 68, 71, 72 and 83 meeting the requirements.

If it'd been written (swapped the statements)

Dopeness Factor: The number of two-digit positive integers x that have the property that the number obtained by reversing the order of the digits of x and sum of  the digits and  is a perfect square?

It's clearly as BC interprets.  Intriguingly, it gets the same dopeness factor both ways...

[iamfishman]

Indeed.

Also with ICBM, possible other Midwesterners, others coming out of retirement, this should be an awesome TMD Open.  This is not the one to miss.

I'd like to hear more commentary of those questions probed in the opening post.  Feel free to chime in.

[Diakonov]

In terms of the dopeness factor I may be confused but I thought the answer was 4 (10,18,40,63), but maybe I misunderstood the math.

It's quite reasonable to be confused. 

As written

Dopeness Factor: The number of two-digit positive integers x that have the property that the sum of the digits and the number obtained by reversing the order of the digits of x is a perfect square?

one could interpret that as:
It's a number with 2 digits n and m so is 10n + m.  We want the reverse [10m +n], plus the sum of the digits [n+m] to be a perfect square.  So that's 11m+2n to be a perfect square.  Cheating, and just putting them into Excel and SQRT the 11m+2n values, it's very easy to spot that the dopeness factor is 5, with the numbers 27, 68, 71, 72 and 83 meeting the requirements.

If it'd been written (swapped the statements)

Dopeness Factor: The number of two-digit positive integers x that have the property that the number obtained by reversing the order of the digits of x and sum of  the digits and  is a perfect square?

It's clearly as BC interprets.  Intriguingly, it gets the same dopeness factor both ways...

Hah!  I actually interpreted it a third way, but now reading it again, it doesn't make as much sense. 

The number of two-digit positive integers x

I read "x" as being the answer; x = "The number"

No wonder I was having so much trouble.  I figured the whole "reversing the order" thing was a trick part of the question and actually meant nothing at all, because I expected the answer to be a single digit number (i.e. "x," as interpreted).

[Demonic Attorney]

For my money, I think now is a better time to do the team contest than ever before.  People are (at least planning on) coming in from far away, and the stream of smack-talk on the forums between teams and regions has been steadily increasing for a while.  Plus, there's really no drawback to doing a team contest, unless you put up a very valuable guaranteed prize, which I don't is really necessary since the team contest is first and foremost about reputation and pride.

Although, the above presents an interesting idea.  What about doing a "Regional" competition, provided there's enough representation? 

[Harlequin]

I think we should keep the fantasy teams separet from actual teams though.  The whole "you can be on any number of teams" is an ok idea in concept.  I don't know if it was the most recent event but didn't Mike B win by registering a team of the 3 of the top players? 

I mean its supposed to be about assembling the best of the best for your team, and battling other teams... not just: lets see who can guess 3 people who make top-8.

[Juggernaut GO]

Team competition is cool, I need another gigantic fuckin trophy to go along with the other 2 I have that says "tmd open team champions"







TEAM TRAVIS LAPLANTE FTW


EDIT: I also forgot about my honorary plaque awarded to me for being the biggest douchebag in vintage.

[The Atog Lord]

Ray,

I'd really like to go, but I'll be out of state. I was going to the Grand Prix, and then I was going to stay with my girlfriend in Michigan for about a month. So, sadly, too close to the Grand Prix for me.

Rich

[Diakonov]

I vote yes on the team incentive.  I remember that being a fun aspect to the day.  If some old rivalries were reignited, it would be great for the environment.

[TD]

I would love to see some representations from some “Pros” from far away.  For that reason, I am starting a new program similar to the Player’s Club that the DCI uses.  My version 1.0 is simple.  If you ever won a Vintage World Champs, you automatically play in my events for free.  That means that Carl Winter, Windfall, Travis Spero, Steve M., and Paul M all play for free if they wish to make the trip down to my event.  I may expand this program if it proves successful in increasing the level of competition at TMD Opens. What do you all think? Share your feedback below.

I like this idea but I think you can take it a step further. I think the player currently in first place in the new "Vintage Rankings" system on the day of the tournament should be awarded free entry. If this Vintage Rankings system sticks you should award free entry fee to the players who have won for the year. On top of this the reining player of the year should be awarded with free Waterbury byes like a GP.

(EXAMPLE: When player X finishes 2009 in 1st place he/she is awarded free entry fee to Waterburys for life and 2 round byes for the year of 2010 or until a new yearly champion is crowned.)

The number of byes is just a suggestion but I think this would give the new player rankings system more of a purpose.

[iamfishman]

I don't have any byes, which is probably some sort of mistake.

I'm not officially prereged yet, but I will almost definitely bring a carload of ICBMers to wreck house.

So psyched that you guys will be coming.

Given that info, I will have to update the bye list for Midwesterners so as to let you all know where you stand.

[iamfishman]

Team competition is cool, I need another gigantic fuckin trophy to go along with the other 2 I have that says "tmd open team champions"







TEAM TRAVIS LAPLANTE FTW


EDIT: I also forgot about my honorary plaque awarded to me for being the biggest douchebag in vintage.

I can't ever argue with Travis Logic...the team competition will be a go.

[sundering jerk]

I would love to see some representations from some “Pros” from far away.  For that reason, I am starting a new program similar to the Player’s Club that the DCI uses.  My version 1.0 is simple.  If you ever won a Vintage World Champs, you automatically play in my events for free.  That means that Carl Winter, Windfall, Travis Spero, Steve M., and Paul M all play for free if they wish to make the trip down to my event.  I may expand this program if it proves successful in increasing the level of competition at TMD Opens. What do you all think? Share your feedback below.

I don't think a $50 incentive will  convince them to come this far anyway. If they're gunna come they're gunna come. They should add to my prize support like everyone else. Fellow players who actually contribute by paying please speak up!

So I should pay $50 and they shouldn't because........ ?

I don't even want to play against them. Their not "Pros"! Their just the best of the people who own power and are willing to travel. I feel like I'm at a disadvantage because I'd rather sell my power than spend $5000, then book a hotel, then have Wizards change the location, then have to play scrub decks that aren't powered until T8.
T8ing at worlds isn't even hard (I know I'm gunna get flamed for this), because their are so few people who actually own power. I remember seeing a list that didn't run jet because he didn't own one and he still T8ed.


Last but not least we shouldn't encourage Steve M. to come, I don't think anyone will be able to fit in the store with Steve M.'s ego.   
... JK ....


also I prereg

[Juggernaut GO]

not quite shortbus vs meandeck  trashtalk



but it will have to do.

[Juggernaut GO]

That also reminds me of this one time, a guy ATE HIS BETA TIME WALK at a star city p9 tournament.

[mike_bergeron]

I would love to see some representations from some “Pros” from far away.  For that reason, I am starting a new program similar to the Player’s Club that the DCI uses.  My version 1.0 is simple.  If you ever won a Vintage World Champs, you automatically play in my events for free.  That means that Carl Winter, Windfall, Travis Spero, Steve M., and Paul M all play for free if they wish to make the trip down to my event.  I may expand this program if it proves successful in increasing the level of competition at TMD Opens. What do you all think? Share your feedback below.

I don't think a $50 incentive will  convince them to come this far anyway. If they're gunna come they're gunna come. They should add to my prize support like everyone else. Fellow players who actually contribute by paying please speak up!

So I should pay $50 and they shouldn't because........ ?

I don't even want to play against them. Their not "Pros"! Their just the best of the people who own power and are willing to travel. I feel like I'm at a disadvantage because I'd rather sell my power than spend $5000, then book a hotel, then have Wizards change the location, then have to play scrub decks that aren't powered until T8.
T8ing at worlds isn't even hard (I know I'm gunna get flamed for this), because their are so few people who actually own power. I remember seeing a list that didn't run jet because he didn't own one and he still T8ed.


Last but not least we shouldn't encourage Steve M. to come, I don't think anyone will be able to fit in the store with Steve M.'s ego.   
... JK ....


also I prereg

Good points, but I disagree. For every free entrance, those people will bring friends for the ride.  Who travels alone, books a room alone, just for a free entrance? So if you give away 1 free entrance to secure 3 other people in a car, I am all for it.  I think it is a good idea Ray.

I would like to play these 'name' players, because that would mean I'm not playing the same people I play every month. 

[Myriad Games]

Since this Vintage Pro Players program is limited in scope to the most accomplished players in Vintage, it shouldn't negatively impact the event as far as cash flow. If we were talking about giving out free entry to everyone who won a tournament with 30 players or more, that would be problematic. As is, it should increase overall interest in the event, which should be good for all who attend.

[M.Solymossy]

T8ing at worlds isn't even hard (I know I'm gunna get flamed for this), because their are so few people who actually own power. I remember seeing a list that didn't run jet because he didn't own one and he still T8ed.

Did you just step off the shortbus?  Were you even AT champs last year?  I played 7 rounds of fully powered decks, including three with grim tutors, 2 with mana drains, and 1 with Workshops.   The only deck that wasn't FULL power was a painter deck that didn't have lotus, but had all the rest.

[sundering jerk]

Good points, but I disagree. For every free entrance, those people will bring friends for the ride.  Who travels alone, books a room alone, just for a free entrance? So if you give away 1 free entrance to secure 3 other people in a car, I am all for it.  I think it is a good idea Ray.

A very assumptive and conditional argument. It do not think that the free entry fee will have any foreseeable impact on how many players will actually come. The only people we know will be guaranteed to be persuaded to come due to the policy change are the ones deriving the benefit. Magic players are not the most social of animals.

My argument was one of principle. If Ray wanted to convince people to travel more he should just offer discounts for the driver of 3+ people from any state not within three states. (or something similar/comparable). That I would feel would be more fair, because everybody wins that way.

[Tha Gunslinga]

I love how people are so free with Ray's money.  If he wants to encourage specific people to come, he can offer byes or something, but suggesting that he give them free tournament entry isn't very helpful.

[mike_bergeron]

Good points, but I disagree. For every free entrance, those people will bring friends for the ride.  Who travels alone, books a room alone, just for a free entrance? So if you give away 1 free entrance to secure 3 other people in a car, I am all for it.  I think it is a good idea Ray.

A very assumptive and conditional argument. It do not think that the free entry fee will have any foreseeable impact on how many players will actually come. The only people we know will be guaranteed to be persuaded to come due to the policy change are the ones deriving the benefit. Magic players are not the most social of animals.

My argument was one of principle. If Ray wanted to convince people to travel more he should just offer discounts for the driver of 3+ people from any state not within three states. (or something similar/comparable). That I would feel would be more fair, because everybody wins that way.

That is a good idea, maybe ray will take a look at that.  I do think that if Ray wants to give the worlds T8 free entry, that's awesome.