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« on: February 02, 2009, 08:07:51 pm »

Conflux has more Vintage potential than any other set in recent memory.
Sure, well all know that Path to Exile is the most broken Rampant Growth variant ever printed (Instant speed? Really?),
but what about the potential Vintage combos?

Here are my Top 5:


#5) Progenitus + Show and Tell

When he was first spoiled, there was a lot of clamor to put Progenitus in Oath.
However, as many have pointed out, Empyrial Archangel is much better,
since it has Shroud, stops Oath from losing to Aggro (a matchup which needed improving),
and presents a four turn clock to the opponent.

Show and Tell, however, has been overlooked,
and this combo seems downright scary with Personal Tutor unrestricted to assemble the combo.
How is the opponent going to deal with a second, or God forbid, first turn Progenitus?
The answer: They won't. He has protection from EVERYTHING. GG, indeed.

#4) Magister Sphinx + Hidetsugo's Second Rite + Oath

This is the Oath kill that's been overlooked.
It cuts down the Oath clock to a single turn and it's Tinker-able. Wow.
However, except for the combo's synergy with Tinker, it pales in comparison to...

#3) Charnelhoard Wurm + Time Walk + Oath

That's right. It's cheaper than the Magister Sphinx combo AND it can assemble itself if you don't have Time Walk in hand.
So, worst case, it's a two turn clock. God Daaamn!

However, these Oath cards don't stand much chance of success,
mainly due to an even bigger combo that's sure to shake the very foundations of the Vintage metagame:

#2) Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker + Mana Drain

That's right. Everyone knows that Nicol Bolas is the biggest card to hit Vintage since his Planeswalking buddy Tezzeret,
but the question has been how to break him. Sure you can hard cast him, but that's almost fair.
However, once you add Mana Drain to the mix, it becomes obvious that he'll be the biggest dog on the Vintage block, by far.
In addition to all of this, he's particularly effective against Oath, since he's able to steal creatures!

So, how can Mana Drain and Nicol Bolas be number two? Well, take a look at number one.

#1) Nyxathid + Dark Ritual

That's right. You thought Negator was scary?
Well, this is going to put Suicide Black back on the map as the deck to beat.
Turn one, Dark Ritual, Nyxathid. You can guess who's going to lose that game.


Well, those are my picks, but I'm sure that there's plenty of territory left unexplored!
Let me know what your top combos are in the forums!


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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2009, 08:18:36 pm »

This article fails to state the most obvious draw engine since alpha's howling mine.



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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2009, 08:27:51 pm »

#5) Progenitus + Show and Tell

When he was first spoiled, there was a lot of clamor to put Progenitus in Oath.
However, as many have pointed out, Empyrial Archangel is much better,
since it has Shroud, stops Oath from losing to Aggro (a matchup which needed improving),
and presents a four turn clock to the opponent.

Show and Tell, however, has been overlooked,
and this combo seems downright scary with Personal Tutor unrestricted to assemble the combo.
How is the opponent going to deal with a second, or God forbid, first turn Progenitus?
The answer: They won't. He has protection from EVERYTHING. GG, indeed.

He even has Protection from Wrath of God. You just can't beat that.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2009, 08:40:45 pm »

#5) Progenitus + Show and Tell

When he was first spoiled, there was a lot of clamor to put Progenitus in Oath.
However, as many have pointed out, Empyrial Archangel is much better,
since it has Shroud, stops Oath from losing to Aggro (a matchup which needed improving),
and presents a four turn clock to the opponent.

Show and Tell, however, has been overlooked,
and this combo seems downright scary with Personal Tutor unrestricted to assemble the combo.
How is the opponent going to deal with a second, or God forbid, first turn Progenitus?
The answer: They won't. He has protection from EVERYTHING. GG, indeed.

He even has Protection from Wrath of God. You just can't beat that.

I heard you can't even tap him, because he has protection from greasy hands as well.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2009, 01:50:33 am »

I'm fairly certain this is joke, but if it isn't . . .  *facepalm*
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2009, 01:47:42 pm »

Not as good as BERSERK MURDOLANT post. Sorry.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2009, 02:19:18 pm »

Technically only green creatures win Waterbury, so prognetius should get there.
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2009, 10:26:47 pm »

I'm fairly certain this is joke, but if it isn't . . .  *facepalm*

This article is quite serious.
It's so serious, in fact, that I posted it here free of charge, for the benefit of the community.

If after reading this article
you don't sideboard Curfew for Progenitus
and play maindeck Ancestral Recall to deal with first turn Nyxathid,
then it's your own fault.

#5) Progenitus + Show and Tell

When he was first spoiled, there was a lot of clamor to put Progenitus in Oath.
However, as many have pointed out, Empyrial Archangel is much better,
since it has Shroud, stops Oath from losing to Aggro (a matchup which needed improving),
and presents a four turn clock to the opponent.

Show and Tell, however, has been overlooked,
and this combo seems downright scary with Personal Tutor unrestricted to assemble the combo.
How is the opponent going to deal with a second, or God forbid, first turn Progenitus?
The answer: They won't. He has protection from EVERYTHING. GG, indeed.

He even has Protection from Wrath of God. You just can't beat that.

I heard you can't even tap him, because he has protection from greasy hands as well.

After some thought, I think you might be able to call a judge to tap him for you.
Originally, I didn't think so, but logically speaking,
since a judge can give you a game loss while you control Platinum Angel,
he should be able to tap Progenitus, much like calling a judge to shuffle someone's deck.

I'm not a judge, so if someone could verify this, that would be great.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2009, 08:14:39 am »

I heard you can't even tap him, because he has protection from greasy hands as well.

After some thought, I think you might be able to call a judge to tap him for you.
Originally, I didn't think so, but logically speaking,
since a judge can give you a game loss while you control Platinum Angel,
he should be able to tap Progenitus, much like calling a judge to shuffle someone's deck.

I'm not a judge, so if someone could verify this, that would be great.

Greasy hands is not a Magic card or a Magic term, so Progenitus doesn't have protection from it.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2009, 04:32:44 pm »

I heard you can't even tap him, because he has protection from greasy hands as well.

After some thought, I think you might be able to call a judge to tap him for you.
Originally, I didn't think so, but logically speaking,
since a judge can give you a game loss while you control Platinum Angel,
he should be able to tap Progenitus, much like calling a judge to shuffle someone's deck.

I'm not a judge, so if someone could verify this, that would be great.

Greasy hands is not a Magic card or a Magic term, so Progenitus doesn't have protection from it.

He may have protection from denimwalk. Watch for carefully timed jeans removal.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2009, 04:56:04 pm »


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He may have protection from denimwalk. Watch for carefully timed jeans removal.
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Thats what she said?
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2009, 05:16:59 pm »

Thats what she said?


I lol'd.  10/10


I am surprized no one has made the esperoza / kalideostone deck yet.  I guess I will have to do everything myself.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2009, 01:22:13 am »

Pentad Prism!

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