TheManaDrain.com
April 15, 2026, 11:59:20 pm
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
:
Home
Help
Search
Calendar
Login
Register
TheManaDrain.com
>
Vintage Community Discussion
>
Other Formats
>
Non-Vintage
(Moderators:
Matt
,
Klep
,
Godder
) >
New standard control W/r
Pages: [
1
]
Print
Author
Topic: New standard control W/r (Read 5488 times)
Almanomada
Basic User
Posts: 87
New standard control W/r
«
on:
September 30, 2009, 05:39:14 am »
Here is a basic shell of a control deck for the new standard. I believe that sligh and creatures in general are the main way to win current standard. I suggest a creatureless control which should make at least 4 cards in every deck dead-- many decks may have 6-8 dead cards. This is a rough draft, please add/remove any suggestions appreciated.
4 Ajani Vengeant
4 Elspeth Knight Errant
4 Silence
4 DoJ
4 Intimidation Bolt
4 Volcanic Fallout
4 Martial Coup
4 Conquerors Pledge
4 lightning bolt
4 arid mesa
12 plains
8 mountains
I think Baneslayer Angels in the board would be good but the rest of SB not sure of atm.
Logged
Matt
Post like a butterfly, Mod like a bee.
Moderator
Basic User
Posts: 2297
King of the Jews!
Re: New standard control W/r
«
Reply #1 on:
September 30, 2009, 09:32:12 am »
Why Intimidation Bolt? Why 4 Silence? In fact, why not zero, because that is a do-nothing card. Ajani seems very weak given that you have no creatures to pump and no creatures to protect him. At least Elspeth makes tokens.
Your curve is atrocious:
1cc: 8
2cc: 0
3cc: 8
4cc: 12
5cc: 0
6cc: 4
7cc: 4
24 lands is not enough. Try to get to 28 if you ever want to kick Pledge or play two spells in one turn. I would also look at running Path to Exile, in part so it can nuke your own token (after blockers of course) to ramp your mana. Some way of drawing extra cards would also be nice.
Overall I just can't see this working. You're forcing yourself to work without white's best card in the format, and not really getting much out of it.
If you're super committed to running Intimidation Bolt, at least have the decency to pair it with Luminarch Ascension.
Logged
http://www.goodgamery.com/pmo/c025.GIF
----------------------
SpenceForHire2k7: Its unessisary
SpenceForHire2k7: only spelled right
SpenceForHire2k7: <= world english teach evar
----------------------
noitcelfeRmaeT
{Team Hindsight}
Almanomada
Basic User
Posts: 87
Re: New standard control W/r
«
Reply #2 on:
September 30, 2009, 11:28:29 am »
dropping the pledge for 4 luminarch ascension. also dropping the silence for 4 Path to exile. Ajani Vengeant lightning bolts and armageddons. you are thinking of goldmane verison.
8 1cc
4 2cc
8 3cc
12 4cc
0 5cc
4 6cc
I plan on running this (a version of) at the PT Austin LCQ so appreciate all the help and criticism.
Logged
jewfro
Basic User
Posts: 23
Re: New standard control W/r
«
Reply #3 on:
October 02, 2009, 08:39:29 am »
So i've given a great deal of thought to this deck (RW control) too. I'd play 4 baneslayer, and thens hift the mana towards more all white, Ex 4 arid mesa 2 terramorphic expanse 3 (the new land that comes into play tapped, taps for white, and if you control 7 or more plains you get to bring a creature back from the gy each turn) 2 mountains rest plains. Also i love iona as a bomb in this deck probably 2, and amilary shpere seems great.
So my suggestions would be (from your revised list)
-2 martial coup
-4 fallout
-4 lightning bolt
-1 ajani vengant
+2 iona
+4 amilary sphere
+4 baneslayer
+1 land
and fix towards a more mono white mana base.
creatureless is fine, but why not play creatures, baneslayer turns on their removal, but if they don't have it they just lose. Iona turns off their removal.
Logged
mdal
Basic User
Posts: 1
Re: New standard control W/r
«
Reply #4 on:
October 05, 2009, 04:22:04 pm »
The reason why Iona and amilary sphere don't really work are simple: they are both very slow. This will be a pretty quick format from the look at it, with red decks and soldier decks and jund deck's going crazy, I don't see this deck doing very well without a bane slayer to keep your life total high ad stop their offence. I feel like regrowing giant angels every turn is a pretty strong play...the issue of course is getting that far into the game without red mana...I'm not gonna lie: this format looks pretty unfriendly to creatureless W/R decks...
Good luck.
Logged
jewfro
Basic User
Posts: 23
Re: New standard control W/r
«
Reply #5 on:
October 14, 2009, 02:46:19 pm »
Mdal--
Baneslayer is a guy who is great at stalling for a few turns, Iona is your win con cause when it hits the board its most likely over. With bolts and paths and DOJ i see this deck stomping jund. 4 lumnarch assenstion seems too much, maelstrom pulse wrecks you. sorry i can't spell the new cards.
Logged
Pages: [
1
]
Print
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
Archives
-----------------------------
===> Archived Vintage Tournament Forum
-----------------------------
Vintage Community Discussion
-----------------------------
===> Casual Forum
-----------------------------
Eternal Formats
-----------------------------
===> Creative
-----------------------------
Vintage Community Discussion
-----------------------------
=> Rules Q&A
-----------------------------
Eternal Formats
-----------------------------
===> Miscellaneous
-----------------------------
Vintage Community Discussion
-----------------------------
===> Card Creation Forum
-----------------------------
Archives
-----------------------------
===> Archived Vintage, Type-1 Forum
===> Archived Extreme Vintage Forum
===> Archived Tournament Results Forum
===> Archived Basic User/Newbie Forum
-----------------------------
Introduction and Announcements
-----------------------------
=> Rules and Regulations
-----------------------------
Vintage Community Discussion
-----------------------------
=> General Community Discussion
-----------------------------
Archives
-----------------------------
===> Archived Articles and Primers
-----------------------------
Vintage Community Discussion
-----------------------------
=====> Master List
=====> Set In Progress
-----------------------------
Eternal Formats
-----------------------------
=> Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results
-----------------------------
Archives
-----------------------------
=> Tournament Announcement Forum
-----------------------------
Eternal Formats
-----------------------------
=> Vintage Tournament Announcements
-----------------------------
Vintage Community Discussion
-----------------------------
=> Other Formats
===> Non-Vintage
-----------------------------
Archives
-----------------------------
=> Articles
-----------------------------
Eternal Formats
-----------------------------
=> Vintage Deck Discussion
-----------------------------
Archives
-----------------------------
=> Archives
=> Adept Chronicles
===> Classic MTGO Forum
-----------------------------
Vintage Community Discussion
-----------------------------
===> Elder Dragon Highlander Forum
-----------------------------
Eternal Formats
-----------------------------
===> Northeast U.S.
===> Midwest U.S.
===> Western/Pacific U.S.
===> Southern U.S.
===> Canada
===> Europe
===> Other
-----------------------------
Vintage Community Discussion
-----------------------------
=> Community Introductions
-----------------------------
Introduction and Announcements
-----------------------------
=> Introduction to TMD
-----------------------------
Vintage Community Discussion
-----------------------------
===> Type 4
-----------------------------
Eternal Formats
-----------------------------
===> Blue-Based Control
===> Workshop-Based Prison
===> Ritual-Based Combo
===> Null Rod Based Aggro
===> Bazaar-Based Decks
=> General Strategy Discussion
===> Vintage Adept Q&A
===> General Strategy Discussion
=> Eternal Article Discussion
===> Online Tournaments
-----------------------------
Introduction and Announcements
-----------------------------
=> Registration for TMD
-----------------------------
Lounges
-----------------------------
===> General Yankee Discussion
Loading...