Goblin Brainfuggler

[Cyberpunker]

Goblin Brainfuggler  
Creature--Goblin Wizard

 : Gain control of target goblin creature you do not control. That creature becomes untapped and has haste. Play this ability only once each turn and only during your turn.

2/2

Adopted and raised in civilization, he now yearns to know more about his kind

We need more blue Goblins.  . Okay, I am ready for what is to follow.

[Delha]

This should have a sillier name. Something like Goblin Mindomancer or Goblin Brainfuggler or somesuch.

Oh yeah... as a side note, I think the cost should be or  .

[Cyberpunker]

This should have a sillier name. Something like Goblin Mindomancer or Goblin Brainfuggler or somesuch.

Oh yeah... as a side note, I think the cost should be or  .

I like Goblin Brainfuggler

[Delha]

Did you change the cost from  to  ? The P/T on blue creatures usually sucks relative to mana cost. That's why I suggested  or  for this.

[Cyberpunker]

Hey, yeah I thought about the mana cost and the thing is creatures have been bigger and bigger lately. So blue's creatures would naturally get bigger too.  for a 2/2 is fair I think in today's standard, limited, and eternal formats. Plus I kind of invented this as a Goblin hoser for blue. Not really sure if its that playable though. Making the mana cost to  would make this unplayable in my opinion...

[zeus-online]

Urh, so right now i can pay 1 to untap a goblin and give it haste....You are aware that you can simply target your own goblins. Does not seem like that was intended...And i foresee kiki-jiki doing something funny. Oh well, i kinda like it when design opens up for non-intuitive tricks.

[Cyberpunker]

you can do it once each turn only though

[Delha]

Hey, yeah I thought about the mana cost and the thing is creatures have been bigger and bigger lately. So blue's creatures would naturally get bigger too.  for a 2/2 is fair I think in today's standard, limited, and eternal formats.

I took a quick look on Gatherer just now. I don't believe there's ever been a blue 2/2 printed sans drawback.

[jro]

I generally like this idea, but I see a few troubles.  1U for a 2/2 is certainly undercosted but that's not too hard to fix.  More of an issue is that this can target itself for hasty beats, which is a neat interaction, but doesn't match the flavor at all.  Also, temporary control changing effects are usually Red.  That this card could be color-shifted to red and be arguably a better color-pie fit mechanically and flavor-wise seems worrisome.

What about if this was a permanent control changing effect, like a Sower of Temptation just for Goblins?

[Cyberpunker]

Ｏｋａｙ you guys have convinced me. New changes. What do you think?

A permanent change would be too broken don't you think?

[AmbivalentDuck]

As stands, he'd actually be one of the best goblins in print.  Threatening your own Sharpshooter is tech.

[Cyberpunker]

You would have to splash blue though. But yeah, whats the point of making cards that aren't cool. 

[FlyFlySideOfFry]

"OH NO YOU BRAINFUGGLED MY DUDE"

Seems fair with only being able to do it once per turn and quite flavorful in my opinion.

[Delha]

I generally like this idea, but I see a few troubles.  1U for a 2/2 is certainly undercosted but that's not too hard to fix.  More of an issue is that this can target itself for hasty beats, which is a neat interaction, but doesn't match the flavor at all.  Also, temporary control changing effects are usually Red.  That this card could be color-shifted to red and be arguably a better color-pie fit mechanically and flavor-wise seems worrisome.

What about if this was a permanent control changing effect, like a Sower of Temptation just for Goblins?

Ray of Command

As stands, he'd actually be one of the best goblins in print.  Threatening your own Sharpshooter is tech.

Magewright Stone does the same w/out requiring a blue splash, having summoning sickness, or dying to Bolt.

[Wagner]

Got a problem with this card. As it stands, it's trying to do 2 very different things at once. It tried to be a Warchief and give your guys haste, but it also tries to steal creatures.

From a flavor point of view, this makes no sense, it looks like its intents to give haste to your creatures more than the opponent's ones. You hereby take control of your own creatures, that makes little sense to me.

2/2 for 2 is also weird, neither red nor blue are good with weenies.


Here is what I would make of him, since Goblins have already enough ways to get haste, I would concentrate on the other ability.


Goblin Brainfuggler   1
Creature--Goblin Wizard

 {UR}: Gain control of target creature with converted mana cost 2 or less until end of turn. That creature becomes untapped and has haste. Play this ability only once each turn.

1/2

Edit: You also probably want to make this guy tap, because in any design you have, it encourages you to untap your goblins to block during the opponent's turn, all we all know how much goblins like to block.

[Nazdakka]

If you want to keep it so that you can't use it like a Warchief to give things haste, just say 'target goblin you don't control'.

[AmbivalentDuck]

As stands, he'd actually be one of the best goblins in print.  Threatening your own Sharpshooter is tech.

Magewright Stone does the same w/out requiring a blue splash, having summoning sickness, or dying to Bolt.

Magewright Stone doesn't grant haste, can't be dropped via Lackey, and can't be used on both your turn AND the opponent's turn.

[A_Outcast]

I agree that it should only target a goblin you dont control.  More flavorfull because why would he try to brainfungle one of his allies?

[zeus-online]

Hey, yeah I thought about the mana cost and the thing is creatures have been bigger and bigger lately. So blue's creatures would naturally get bigger too.  for a 2/2 is fair I think in today's standard, limited, and eternal formats.

I took a quick look on Gatherer just now. I don't believe there's ever been a blue 2/2 printed sans drawback.

Does that mean that a blue grizzly bear would be overpowered?....

Honestly, with the insane power creep in creatures i think blue could, just maaaybe get a grizzly bear?

I'm not trying to defend this particular card, just in general.

Although i do kinda like this card the way it is.

[Cyberpunker]

Okay, only Goblins you do not control...this card is getting weaker 

[Wagner]

Hey, yeah I thought about the mana cost and the thing is creatures have been bigger and bigger lately. So blue's creatures would naturally get bigger too.  for a 2/2 is fair I think in today's standard, limited, and eternal formats.

I took a quick look on Gatherer just now. I don't believe there's ever been a blue 2/2 printed sans drawback.

Does that mean that a blue grizzly bear would be overpowered?....

Honestly, with the insane power creep in creatures i think blue could, just maaaybe get a grizzly bear?

I'm not trying to defend this particular card, just in general.

Although i do kinda like this card the way it is.

Maybe it could, but I stand by my point, check all blue and red 2/2 creatures that cost 1R and 1U, there is not a single one without a drawback. Those colors don't get efficient weenies, especially some that basically give your Goblins Vigilance!

[Delha]

Okay, only Goblins you do not control...this card is getting weaker 

At "Goblins you do not control", I think  for a 2/2 and the repeatable ability for  is probably okay. TBH, I like this fix, since it keeps to what I thought was the idea of stealing goblins (rather than buffing your own). If that wasn't the original intent, maybe we could find a different way to balance it.

[Cyberpunker]

Ｔｒｕｅ.

This does keep to the original flavor more.

[jro]

I generally like this idea, but I see a few troubles.  1U for a 2/2 is certainly undercosted but that's not too hard to fix.  More of an issue is that this can target itself for hasty beats, which is a neat interaction, but doesn't match the flavor at all.  Also, temporary control changing effects are usually Red.  That this card could be color-shifted to red and be arguably a better color-pie fit mechanically and flavor-wise seems worrisome.

What about if this was a permanent control changing effect, like a Sower of Temptation just for Goblins?

Ray of Command

Cards that last saw print in 1997 are not indicative of the current color pie, otherwise we'd all be citing Natural Selection and Sylvan Library as support for our sweet green colorshifted Brainstorms.

I think the current UR version is okay but I don't see why it couldn't just be RR in its current form.  If the idea is to make a Blue Goblin, I feel like it should do something clearly Blue.

[TheShop]

Maybe I am just bitter about the color pie shifting over time but I feel like they messed it up royally and anything back to the old pie would be a restoration....

Blue obviously gains control, if haste is the problem I think that the haste part on some of the older blue control cards was only there so you could use your stolen dude...not because blue had anything to do with haste then either.  If it is end of turn(ie not permanent control) that is the issue...I fail to see the problem, Is it somehow less flavorful if the exact same ability lasts for 20 seconds of gameplay rather than as long as an enchantment sits in play????

Getting off Soapbox now...

[AmbivalentDuck]

It feels like the intersection of red and blue would be *permanent* control with haste.  Something like Sliver Overlord, but with haste, is definitely viable.

[Cyberpunker]

Wouldn't a permenant control be a little broken? Or would it not? This would mean autodeath vs any goblin deck out there once you get Brainfuggler out. 

[AmbivalentDuck]

That's pretty much true of Wort already.

[Cyberpunker]

True, and this card has been getting weaker. Time to ramp up the power  . New changes!

[jro]

True, and this card has been getting weaker. Time to ramp up the power  . New changes!

I like this new one.  All the templating about "once per turn during your turn" is kind of wordy.  What if it was a tap ability and he had haste himself?  Maybe lower his P/T along with it to balance out the reduced cost?