Eudemonia June 6, 2010 LISTS are up! Pics!

[LotusHead]

Well, it seems TMD had a forum makeover, and I can't post NEW threads (yet!), so I'll do the usual tourney/meta report here.

22 People showed up to sling Vintage cards for a TIME WALK as first place prize.
5 rounds of swiss, followed by top 8.

Standings after swiss:


Top 8
Jeff Neilson (LotusHead - 5cStax) defeats Galen (Aardshark - TPS)
David Ochoa (Webster - Oath) defeats Ryan Devine (Potato - Oath
Brett Allen (Hiryu - Bob Time Vault Control) gets a sweet concession from Cory Redmond (Credmond - MUD) as Cory had something better to do than dick around in top 8 (wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more)
Dan Messiano (Dnine - Time Vault control) defeats Dylan Joliffe (TPS)

Top 4
LotusHead beats Webster
Hiryu beats Dnine

Top 2
LotusHead vs Hiryu...
Did I meantion that Eudemonia was having an employee party after hours that night?  Like the kind with alchohol?

We get to play finals over a beer!

LotusHead defeats Hiryu and walks away with a Time Walk and a slight buzz.

Lists will be typed up by Eudemonia staff later and posted at www.eudemonia.net/p9 (I'll copy paste it here)

Here's what I played:


// Lands
    1  Bazaar of Baghdad
    3  City of Brass
    3  Gemstone Mine
    4  Mishra's Workshop
    1  Strip Mine
    1  Tolarian Academy
    3  Wasteland
    1  Mishra's Factory (4)

// Creatures
    1  Duplicant
    4  Goblin Welder
    4  Lodestone Golem
    1  Sundering Titan
    1  Triskelion

// Spells
    3  Chalice of the Void
    2  Crucible of Worlds
    1  Mana Crypt
    1  Sol Ring
    1  Mana Vault
    1  Black Lotus
    1  Mox Emerald
    1  Mox Jet
    1  Mox Ruby
    1  Mox Sapphire
    3  Null Rod
    3  Smokestack
    4  Tangle Wire
    1  Tinker
    1  Trinisphere
    1  Ancestral Recall
    1  Mox Pearl
    3  Thorn of Amethyst
    1  Crop Rotation
    1  Balance

// Sideboard
SB: 2  Duplicant
SB: 1  Thorn of Amethyst
SB: 1  Aven Mindcensor
SB: 1  Red Elemental Blast
SB: 2  Choke
SB: 1  Sculpting Steel
SB: 1  Diabolic Edict
SB: 1  Echoing Truth
SB: 2  Seal of Cleansing
SB: 2  Rack and Ruin
SB: 1  Suppression Field


I barely remember the actual gameplay, but here's a mini-report

Round 1: Elliot
Game 1: I lose the die roll for 6th time in a row and keep a decent hand vs the Stax mirror.  Turns out he's not playing shops this time.  He leads with Island. I rip strip of the top and strip his land. Then he kills me with Oath of Druids
Game 2 and 3: I win after wars of attrition, but I don't remember them at all. (pics later!)

Round 2: Ryan Oath
Game 1: I lose the die roll for the 7th time in a row. I don't remember the games at all, but I believe I got him 2-0. Potato should have this match in his own report (that will be up at www.Eudemonia.net/p9 when he's done with it)

Round 3: Webster Oath
Game 1: I lose the die roll for the 8th time in a row and he kills me with Oath game 1
Game 2 and 3: I remember one of these games I keep a Mox Welder City of Brass Ancestral Recall Duplicant Shop Crucible hand. I play Mox and Ancestral (resolves) and Goblin Welder with 7 in hand.  Ochoa takes his turn, DT's and passes. I draw, stare at my hand for a minute, then go to end step.  Ochoa Nature's Claims my Mox (robbing me of an in play artifact for welder) and I discard Duplicant.  Ochoa takes his turn. on my turn I play Shop Mana Vault (Forced) then Null Rod. I don't remember the rest of these games but I got him 2-1

Round 4: Gambit TPS
ID. We play EDH.  My Sliver Overlord vs his Reaper King guy.
Game 1: I lose the die roll for the 9th time in a row.
I play turn 1 Training Grounds, and am feeling pretty good. Later a crack a fetchland to find a red mana source (with my B/W Zendikar fetchland).
Try as hard as I might, I cannot find my Underground Sea, Volcanic Island or Taiga in it.  My EDH deck has 97 cards. :/
This ends our casual EDH game.

Round 5: Credmond MUD
ID, but we play for fun anyways
Game 1: I lose the die roll for the 10th time in a row, but get him 2-0

Quarter Finals
Galen TPS
Game 1 and 2: I ROLL A FRIKKIN 20! Galen rolls less than a 20! I GO FRIKKIN FIRST!!!
These weren't games. I had nasty chalices Null Rods and Thorns and Wastes, Crucibles, etc.
I think he played some dead moxes game 2 (I had null rod out).

Semi Finals
Webster Oath
Game 1: I lose the die roll again, and Webster kills me.
Game 2 and 3: I resolves stuff and Smokestack does it's job. He plays an EOT gifts for 5 mana and presents me with Nature's Claim, Black Lotus, Mox Jet and Voltaic Key.  He has one card in hand and 5 mana on the field.  I give him Nature's Claim and Mox Jet, and he fails to kill me.

Finals:
Game 1: I lose the die roll again but I WIN the die roll and get him game 1 and 2.

Whoot!

Notice I had to defeat 4 rounds VS Oath of Druids, all likely very close lists.  I feel FAR from comfortable against Oath, and Oath IS very prevalent in our meta, and my sideboard probably shows that.  I have about 10 different cards I can bring in against the many ways Oath can win, but I only side in about 6 cards at a time (8 if I side out 2 Chalices) depending on if I play or draw.  My sideboard is meant to shore up my worst matchups and somehow it got me there.  Or maybe I just got lucky 4 matches in a row against very competent players.  I'll never know!

The rest of the pics will be put up later.   I have to email each one to myself from my cellphone, and it takes a while.

Props:
My deck for delivering the Goods.
Austin for convincing me NOT to play Lotusless MUDStax because that's what I had sleeved up Saturday Night.
Dnine for the entertainment of his and Gambit's top 8 match game 2.
All of my opponents for being outstanding players.

Slops:
Slops are for fools.

I can't make new threads yet! Mods feel free to move this to where appropriate.

[LotusHead]

Double Posting only to add pics and let Mods' know that I CAN now post new threads in this forum.


I think the complication here is that Elliot was at like 2 life and I probably above 8


COUNTERWAR!


Yu-Gi-Oh Mats. How do they work?


Jace can do a lot of amazing stuff.  Can he keep the goblins at bay?


Aardshark trying to hit critical mass!


Knadler LOVES it with his back up against the wall!


BC's in tha house! Apparently, the Mystical Remora's are SB vs Oath/Storm.  Neat!


This deck looks like MutedEquillibrium's deck (pimp asian non-foil Stax).  Is that his deck?  Were these some SoCal dudes?  If so, props to you all for making the trip!


Dylan just got fatesealed by Jace.  Dan left the card on top after a full minute's consideration.
I wonder what card that could be. (Jace at 13 counters.)


It was a YAWGMOTH'S BARGAIN!!! Does it resolve despite Dan's full grip of REB's, Mana Drains', etc?


Semi Finals Oath Wars. 


Me, on the draw game 1 in finals.  I ship it back.


Er, I think this was one of my nutty hands vs Potato round 2.


LIBRARY WARS!


Klemic's Painter Control deck!


Dnine trying to go off vs BC's double Mystic Remoras.  He JUST might have gotten there if not for being at 1 life (No Force Pitching).


Credmon's MUD vs Leong's Pimp Bant Fish deck.  Cory had a never ending stream of Tangle Wires, but no win conditions.


Me vs Web.  It looks like Webster is winning, but maybe not.  I remember now.  One game he Oath'ed up Iona first, and Time Walk, Regrowth and Yawgmoth's Will hit the graveyard.  Then Terrastodon came up 6th card from the bottom.  Sah-weet! I think I topdeck land to Duplicate his Iona, then Chumped his Terrastodon with DuplIONA and Elephant.


Stax is as Stax does...


Ahhh. This is the game I kinda recall from my mini-report.  True Story: I had that same hand game 2 or 3 in semi-finals. Mox, City, Welder, Ancestral, Shop, Crucible, Something.


Turn something of extra turns, Galen plays a lot of stuff, with his 3 Win conditions SadSac'd into Exile.  The game plan: Grim Tutor for TimeTwister to hopefully get back Rebuild in Graveyard to deal with DSC.  Dylan's plan? Use his Underground Sea for Demonic Consultation for Force of Will. DOH!!!


I dunno. It LOOKS like Austin is winning, but I can't read their life totals from this angle to find out who is REALLY winning!


Klemic: "please let me untap Mr Webster. Please."
 I don't think Klemic got to untap.


Web doesn't like Magus of the Moon on the field. It must be dispatched.


Knadler trying to stay awesome on the field!


Galen's not really thrilled about this board position.  I tinkered for CRUCIBLE instead of SUNDERING TITAN with Chalice for 0 and Thorn Crucible Strip mine out.  TMD, was that the right play?


Dylan is playing spells  to bait out forces so he can maybe resolve that Yawgmoth's Bargain...


Bargain Resolves?  Really? How bout this? and draw 1 2 3 4 5 6 cards, and this, and 7 8 9 cards, how bout Duress? or Ponder? draw 10 11, how bout this? To be fair, Dan made GREAT choices game 3 and took it by turn 3 or 4.

[Tobi]

Nice. Congrats to a tournament win, finally! 

How was Chronatog?

[Campee]

That pimp stax deck was mine I let Jonathan Leong borrow it for the day. Too bad I couldn't play in this..

[LotusHead]

Nice. Congrats to a tournament win, finally! 

How was Chronatog?

lol

It was a last minute experiment on MWS last night. I did not play chronotog. I'll fix the list.

[Tobi]

lol

It was a last minute experiment on MWS last night. I did not play chronotog. I'll fix the list.

Damn. I would have loved to see that card in a tournament winning list 

[saspook]

What time did this finish?

I might make the trip up from LA one of these weekends - but the drive back is going to be terrible.

[BC]

Good tournament as usual.  Eudemonia holds great Vintage events.  I took a break from Workshops, instead bringing UBG Tezz.  I dropped at 1-2-1, and got my fill of control for at least 6 months. 

I hate to do it, but I have 2 quick complaints:

1.  According to the judge, the Time Walk was valued at $475-$485 for the prize pool.  This left 2-4 getting $25 store credit, which is lame.  To me, that price for a Time Walk is $75-$100 too high.  My sympathies to the second place finisher.

2.  I have a bunch of store credit from splitting in the finals of a previous tournament, but unfortunately the store has an abysmal selection of singles (especially compared to Superstars), so my store credit is rendered useless.  I thought about buying a foil Verdant Catacombs and/or a foil Scalding Tarn, but they were valued at $45 and $54, respectively.  Call me crazy, but I refuse to pay $20/card over ebay Buy It Now prices.  I ended up picking up 4 cards, mostly for EDH decks (I don't even really play EDH anymore), but I still have well over $100 in store credit left.  I have no idea how I'm going to spend all of it.

[hiryu]

The event finished at around 8:30.  I think that's a little later than normal, because some matches went long and the finals are often not played.  I wanted to split because second place was just $25 store credit... but it wasn't to be.  

And Jeff, you definitely did not lose the die roll in the finals, and I don't think you mulliganed either.  I mulled twice and had unreal terrible draws... every card (and I drew a lot of them) was a pure dagger.  All the same, I could have played better in game 2.  Still a harsh way to lose $400.

I was going to play storm, but as usual by the time I registered it had morphed back into Tezz.  The optional cards: 2 Remora, 2 Bob, 1 Tendrils, 1 Dark Ritual, 2 Jace.  I did end up killing a bunch of people with Tendrils (sometimes as early as turn 2), but every time I did I had to wonder if I could have just as easily made Key/Vault...

[LotusHead]

I hate to do it, but I have 2 quick complaints:
1.  According to the judge, the Time Walk was valued at $475-$485 for the prize pool.  This left 2-4 getting $25 store credit, which is lame.  To me, that price for a Time Walk is $75-$100 too high.  My sympathies to the second place finisher.

The judge doesn't set the value of the Time Walk.  He just runs the actual tourney and does Judging duties. He has to defer to the owners about additional prizes.

 At the last Eudo tourney, I overheard a conversation with him that if there were say, 30 people who showed up, that the Top4/Top8 prize would be boosted considerably.  One of the reasons why I take the time to do these tourney meta reports/pic threads is to help boost attendence, even though I get NO compensation from Eudemonia.  There are others who could show up, and if they did, prize support would jump accordingly.  If Eudemonia is willing to cough up the Time Walk with a minimum of 8 players, we just have to accept that JUST a Time Walk is the minimum prize.  With 22, there was $75 beyond the minimum.

The Time Walk was not mint/NM, but it is still Power.  So you do have a point about it's value, but that would mean Time Walk for first, and $0 for 2-4th, yes?

I got it backwards. My bad.

[BC]

I know the judge has nothing to do with the prizes.  I know the TO does not want to lose money by giving out too much in prizes.  All I'm saying is that I thought the Time Walk was priced a little high, making for a very top-heavy prize structure, which I have never liked.  The judge did a great job, the TO did a great job, and you (Lotushead) did a great job reporting it.  It all fine and good.

[Gambit]

I know the judge has nothing to do with the prizes.  I know the TO does not want to lose money by giving out too much in prizes.  All I'm saying is that I thought the Time Walk was priced a little high, making for a very top-heavy prize structure, which I have never liked.  The judge did a great job, the TO did a great job, and you (Lotushead) did a great job reporting it.  It all fine and good.

What I generally do with my Store credit there is just use it for entry fees into the next tournament; If you get $200 in credit, you basically have your next 8 events on the house, this is something that superstars stopped allowing, which kinda sucks.

Anyway, fun event yesterday. I played TPS for my first time ever, turns out Blue and Black cards are kinda good. I couldn't believe that Yawg Bargain resolved in the top 8! But I deserved it after he turn 1 vault + Key'd me through a FOW in game 1, bleh.

[jeffthefob]

BC, I  think your complaints are legit and I totally understand what you are saying.

The prize structure for the more expensive powers are all going to be pretty top heavy unfortunately.  For me as a player, if the total prize is equal or greater than the entree fee they got, then it is a good payout.  Stores generally value the powers bit higher, that kind of sucks, but just reality.

Store credit at Eudo is kind of.... meh.  You should just use it as entree fee.  Regarding winning, should probably take the card and resell it to someone for better value.  For the reasons you said, Eudo just don't have a large inventory of magic stuffs and their pricing is really bad.

[BC]

I just assumed they wouldn't take store credit for entry fees, because... you know... then they don't make any money.  But as long as they're accepting it, that's what I'll do.  Sounds like a plan.

[matt_sperling]

Congrats on the win!  Good to see a tutorless 5cStax put up some results.  Looking forward to discussion of card choices, assuming I can find it when it goes up on the new TMD. 

[dkao]

I want to address the great feedback people are giving about our events.  Our prize structure is no big secret so I'll explain it to everyone with the goal of more transparency and understanding for our events.

For all of our magic events, we take the entry fee, minus $2.00 for administrative costs (event staff pay) and give out the rest in store credit.  For the Time Walk P9 event, we had 22 players.  This worked out to $506 in the prize pool.  Our Time Walk price came in at around $480.  The price was compared to http://findmagiccards.com/Cards/UN/Time_Walk.html for a sanity check.  This left $26 in the prize pool.  However we wanted to give the rest of the top 4 something, so we gave back the entry fee (Free entry for the next P9!).  This is more than what we took in but we thought it was necessary to help build the community.

We want to do everything we can to support the P9 community because we know the Magic community will continue to support us.  Our goal is to break even on these events whether we have 8 players or 40 players.  I hope more players will show up to the next event so we can give out larger prizes.

It seems to me that our store credit is more valuable to the gamer player base compared to the regional magic player base.  Our local gamers are here on a daily or weekly basis and buy plenty of drinks, snacks, singles, boosters, computer time, events and other games.  I just realized the regional magic players are here once a month and generally want to buy magic cards.  With that in mind, I will commit to having a larger and more extensive singles inventory.

If you have more questions, feel free to post it here or email me at dkao@eudemonia.net.  We want to help build and support the P9 community in California so let us know how we can do that.

[LotusHead]

Congrats on the win!  Good to see a tutorless 5cStax put up some results.  Looking forward to discussion of card choices, assuming I can find it when it goes up on the new TMD.  

My deck breakdown is in the Workshop Based Prison child board:
Here

Now, LISTS!

1st - Jeff Neilson - 5c Sperling Stax

1 Ancestral Recall
1 Balance
4 Goblin Welder
1 Crop Rotation
4 Lodestone Golem
1 Tinker
4 Tangle Wire
3 Chalice of the Void
3 Null Rod
3 Smokestack
3 Thorn of Amethyst
2 Crucible of Worlds
1 Black Lotus
1 Duplicant
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
1 Sundering Titan
4 Mishra's Workshop
3 City of Brass
3 Gemstone Mine
3 Wasteland
1 Bazaar of Baghdad
1 Mishra's Factory
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Trinisphere
1 Triskelion

Sideboard:
2 Seal of Cleansing
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Suppression Field
1 Echoing Truth
1 Diabolic Edict
2 Rack and Ruin
1 Red Elemental Blast
2 Choke
2 Duplicant
1 Sculpting Steel
1 Thorn of Amethyst

2nd - Brett Allen - Time Vault Control

4 Force of Will
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Mana Drain
2 Mystic Remora
2 Spell Pierce
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Inkwell Leviathan
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ponder
1 Rebuild
1 Repeal
1 Tezzeret the Seeker
1 Thirst for Knowleddge
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
2 Dark Confidant
1 Dark Ritual
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Duress
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sol Ring
1 Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
4 Polluted Delta
3 Underground Sea
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Tolarian Academy
3 Island
1 Snow-Covered Island
1 Swamp

Sideboard:
2 Energy Flux
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Spell Snare
2 Ravenous Trap
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Duress
1 Extirpate
1 Perish
1 Smother
1 Yixlid Jailer
2 Pithing Needle
1 Strip Mine

3rd/4th - David Ochoa - Oath

1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
4 Force of Will
4 Spell Pierce
3 Mana Drain
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Tezzeret the Seeker
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Oath of Druids
1 Regrowth
1 Terastodon
1 Black Lotus
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sol Ring
1 Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
4 Forbidden Orchard
4 Misty Rainforest
3 Underground Sea
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tropical Island
1 Forest
1 Island
1 Snow-Covered Island

Sideboard:
1 Show and Tell
1 Perish
3 Leyline of the Void
2 Duress
1 Deathmark
1 Massacre
1 Ravenous Trap
3 Nature's Claim
1 Pithing Needle
1 Tormod's Crypt

3rd/4th - Dan Messineo - Dnine Control

4 Force of Will
3 Mana Drain
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Sower of Temptation
1 Thada Adel, Acquisitor
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
4 Night's Whisper
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yagwmoth's Will
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Ingot Chewer
1 Magma Jet
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
2 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Sol Ring
1 Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
4 Underground Sea
3 Polluted Delta
2 Scalding Tarn
2 Volcanic Island
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Island
1 Mountain
1 Swamp

Sideboard:
1 Energy Flux
3 Smother
2 Yixlid Jailer
1 Darkblast
2 Greater Gargadon
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Ingot Chewer
1 Rack of Ruin
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Tormod's Crypt


Dylan Joliffe  TPS

4 Force of Will
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Mind's Desire
1 Misdirection
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ponder
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 Tinker
4 Dark Ritual
4 Duress
2 Cabal Ritual
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Imperial Seal
1 Necropotence
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Black Lotus
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Memory Jar
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Polluted Delta
2 Island
2 Underground Sea
1 Marsh Flats
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Swamp

Sideboard:
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Echoing Truth
1 Energy Flux
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Rebuild
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Sadistic Sacrament
1 Yixlid Jailer
1 Island
1 Swamp


Ryan Devine - Oath

1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Spell Pierce
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ponder
1 Rebuild
1 Spell Snare
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Oath of Druids
1 Terastodon
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
1 Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
4 Forbidden Orchard
4 Misty Rainforest
2 Tropical Island
2 Underground Sea
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Volcanic Island
2 Island

Sideboard:
2 Mindbreak Trap
3 Ravenous Trap
2 Yixlid Jailer
1 Pyroblast
2 Nature's Claim
1 Terastodon
2 Pithing Needle
1 Rack and Ruin
1 Relic of Progenitus
 
Galen Lemei - TPS

4 Force of Will
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Inkwell Leviathan
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Misdirection
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ponder
1 Rebuild
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 Tinker
4 Dark Ritual
4 Duress
2 Cabal Ritual
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Grim Tutor
1 Imperial Seal
1 Necropotence
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Memory Jar
1 Mind's Desire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Sol Ring
2 Polluted Delta
2 Underground Sea
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Island
1 Snow-Covered Island
1 Snow-Covered Swamp
1 Swamp

Sideboard:
3 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Rebuild
4 Leyline of the Void
1 Sadistic Sacrament
1 Slaughter Pact
1 Yixlid Jailer
2 Bojuka Bog
1 Island

Cory Redmond - MUD

4 Chalice of the Void
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Tangle Wire
4 Thorn of Amethyst
3 Null Rod
3 Sculpting Steel
3 Smokestack
3 Sphere of Resistance
2 Crucible of Worlds
1 Black Lotus
1 Duplicant
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
1 Trinisphere
4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Wasteland
3 Ancient Tomb
1 City of Traitors
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy

Sideboard:
2 Eon Hub
2 Pithing Needle
2 Powder Keg
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Tormod's Crypt
1 Blasting Station
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
3 Duplicant

[credmond]

My sideboard is missing 3 duplicants.

I had loads of fun playing with you guys. It was cool to see some new players there and I hope all of them return for future events. The new guy rocking a turboland list that day reminded me of my first Eudo tournament where I brought a turboland list and surprised some people with it.

[BC]

Our Time Walk price came in at around $480.  The price was compared to http://findmagiccards.com/Cards/UN/Time_Walk.html for a sanity check.  

I have absolutely no problems with your prize structure, other than what I consider to be an inflated price for the Time Walk.  In my opinion, FindMagicCards.com is not a very good source for appraising card value.  More accurate value can be found using ebay Buy It Now prices for auctions that actually sold.  For example, a quick search reveals that UL Time Walk sold using BIN at $325.72, $350, $430, and $384.98, but did NOT sell using BIN at $440.27, $475, $494.99, $435, and $527.72.  So depending on condition, I think a fair price would have been in the $350-$450 range.  Since yours was not very close to NM condition, probably closer to $400.

With that in mind, I will commit to having a larger and more extensive singles inventory.

Thank you very much, and I truly hope that you do expand your inventory.  I appreciate the fact that you are taking my criticism constructively. 

[potato]

Our Time Walk price came in at around $480.  The price was compared to http://findmagiccards.com/Cards/UN/Time_Walk.html for a sanity check.  

I have absolutely no problems with your prize structure, other than what I consider to be an inflated price for the Time Walk.  In my opinion, FindMagicCards.com is not a very good source for appraising card value.  More accurate value can be found using ebay Buy It Now prices for auctions that actually sold.  For example, a quick search reveals that UL Time Walk sold using BIN at $325.72, $350, $430, and $384.98, but did NOT sell using BIN at $440.27, $475, $494.99, $435, and $527.72.  So depending on condition, I think a fair price would have been in the $350-$450 range.  Since yours was not very close to NM condition, probably closer to $400.

With that in mind, I will commit to having a larger and more extensive singles inventory.

Thank you very much, and I truly hope that you do expand your inventory.  I appreciate the fact that you are taking my criticism constructively.  

If you were to price the Time Walk in this tournament at 400, and add in $25 for 3 other players, that brings the value of the pool to $475, which is only $31 net profit for the tournament (approximately 6.1% of the gross [31/506=0.0612]). It seems reasonable to me to allow the host store at least that much of a rake.

I recall many years ago reading an article written about how Vintage tournaments have among the best EV for players of any format, and this seems like an excellent example of a store doing everything they can to give away as much as they can. To complain about a store making 6.1% profit from an event is totally unreasonable.

[BC]

I've never complained about stores making some money on tournaments.  I certainly hope they do, otherwise they will inevitably stop running tournaments.  I have only complained about the top-heavy prize structure, made top-heavier by a highly priced Time Walk.  Aside from that I have no issues with any other aspect of the tournament and/or prize structure.  I like Eudemonia tournaments, and I will continue to frequent them.

It is important to note, however, that by your math the store essentially ended up selling a Time Walk for $431 (not to mention the $75 store credit for which they have already collected the cash).  They make profit on that Time Walk sale... certainly more than $31.  Don't feel too bad about them having to give out "more than they took in".

[potato]

I've never complained about stores making some money on tournaments.  I certainly hope they do, otherwise they will inevitably stop running tournaments.  I have only complained about the top-heavy prize structure, made top-heavier by a highly priced Time Walk.  Aside from that I have no issues with any other aspect of the tournament and/or prize structure.  I like Eudemonia tournaments, and I will continue to frequent them.

It is important to note, however, that by your math the store essentially ended up selling a Time Walk for $431 (not to mention the $75 store credit for which they have already collected the cash).  They make profit on that Time Walk sale... certainly more than $31.  Don't feel too bad about them having to give out "more than they took in".

In order to make the prize less top-heavy, the store would have to give away more store credit. That would result in the store making less money. By saying that the prize should be less top-heavy, you are saying that the store should make less money, or should give away some amount of store credit instead of a time walk, to spread the prize down into the lower places.

Which would you prefer? Would you prefer that the store not give away a Time Walk, or would you prefer that the store make less money? Those are the two ways to make the prize less top-heavy (assuming constant entry fee and number of participants - feel free to suggest that the store charge more or suggest a way to increase attendance).

[BC]

They pretty much have to give away the Time Walk, since that's what gets a lot of players in the door.  I'm not sure how to boost attendance, that's the million dollar question in Vintage.  If they would have valued the Time Walk at $400, they could have given $50 for 2nd, $25 for 3/4.  It's a small difference for this tournament, but it would have shut me up.

[LotusHead]

I'll take the blame for this one. I don't own a Time Walk, so there was not going to be a split involving me, hence the top heavy nature of it.

Either Brett or I would walk away thrilled, and the other with next to nothing.  I have made plenty a top for with zero prize for top 4 before.

[Cyberpunker]

I gotta make it to one of these tournaments and win it after I get back from Japan. 

[Tobi]

Very nice top 8.
Some missing cards:
Brett - 1 MD
Ryan - 1 MD
Galen - 2 MD

Also very interesting:
Dylan Joliffe - TPS
...
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Darksteel Colossus
...

Hardcore!

[hiryu]

Very nice top 8.
Some missing cards:
Brett - 1 MD
Ryan - 1 MD
Galen - 2 MD

The missing card in my (Brett's) deck is Mox Pearl.

[heiner]

Congrats to your Win lotushead! You deserve it!

[LSD25]

looks like i missed out on some good tournys while i was in europe...

congrats on the win.  hope to see some of these new faces and innovation this summer.

props to dk on the response.  i like to use magiccards.info.  the standard deviation info is quite useful.