Leyline of Anticiptation

[mmcgeach]

why not try gemstone caverns?  I mean, the plan is to go all out for the turn-0 win, right?

also, the draw-7's seem like they'd be good...  wheel of fortue at the least, seems like it should be there, since it's on-color.  I dunno.  My first guess was to throw a bunch of draw 7's together with the leyline, mox diamonds, and gemstone caverns to make a fast storm deck, but, well, it's fragile and sucks if you don't win turn 1 on their upkeep.

[Delha]

Thank you, i am still trying to figure out how to solve the mana issues killane pointed out; without adding in lands.

Another option you have is to play Green lands and use Land Grants.

that just might work, i am concidering dropping the black and bolstering the green but that will cause me to lose the tutors, just dont know if thats justifiable. Ill post another alternate list when i get some time.

Just run Bayou as your Land Grant targets. Two is probably plenty.

[policehq]

why not try gemstone caverns?  I mean, the plan is to go all out for the turn-0 win, right?

also, the draw-7's seem like they'd be good...  wheel of fortue at the least, seems like it should be there, since it's on-color.  I dunno.  My first guess was to throw a bunch of draw 7's together with the leyline, mox diamonds, and gemstone caverns to make a fast storm deck, but, well, it's fragile and sucks if you don't win turn 1 on their upkeep.

Gemstone Caverns and Leyline mean you're hoping to draw those + 4 cards that could provide a win, if you want the turn 0 kill... Flash Mox Hulk Land?

[waffles]

why not try gemstone caverns?  I mean, the plan is to go all out for the turn-0 win, right?

also, the draw-7's seem like they'd be good...  wheel of fortue at the least, seems like it should be there, since it's on-color.  I dunno.  My first guess was to throw a bunch of draw 7's together with the leyline, mox diamonds, and gemstone caverns to make a fast storm deck, but, well, it's fragile and sucks if you don't win turn 1 on their upkeep.

Gemstone Caverns and Leyline mean you're hoping to draw those + 4 cards that could provide a win, if you want the turn 0 kill... Flash Mox Hulk Land?

Do you mean look at that deck for ideas for the shell, or using the actual deck? the point of this thread was to find a way to get the leyline to function in a competive setting. the draw 7s are a good idea, i did include timetwister. I am still working on the best color combinations for the shell. So far I've come up with the base must be green or black as thats the colors that recycle/null profusion are in. The complementing colors are what i am having trouble with. Perhaps analysing the colors in the terms of what they can offer to this deck.

[Delha]

do you mean look at that deck for ideas for the shell, or using the actual deck? the point of this thread was to find a way to get the leyline to function in a competive setting. the draw 7s are a good idea, i am still working on the best color combinations for this.

I'm fairly certain it's a comment on the negative CA being too big of a drawback.

[waffles]

do you mean look at that deck for ideas for the shell, or using the actual deck? the point of this thread was to find a way to get the leyline to function in a competive setting. the draw 7s are a good idea, i am still working on the best color combinations for this.

I'm fairly certain it's a comment on the negative CA being too big of a drawback.

then my key is to make this deck funtion without the leyline then worry about it with it?

[Delha]

then my key is to make this deck funtion without the leyline then worry about it with it?

That wasn't what I meant specifically, but I do believe it would be your best starting point. You won't have Leyline every draw, and this isn't Dredge, where a three card hand with Bazaar can win just fine.

[waffles]

then my key is to make this deck funtion without the leyline then worry about it with it?

That wasn't what I meant specifically, but I do believe it would be your best starting point. You won't have Leyline every draw, and this isn't Dredge, where a three card hand with Bazaar can win just fine.

Hrmm, then i guess ill have to simmer on this for a bit longer.

[policehq]

There was a tournament report a long time ago about a user that piloted an Empty The Warrens/Repeal deck. I don't remember the place that he finished. He built storm with Repeal and 0cc artifacts, was able to use Chalice of the Void as a means of slowing the opponent down until he was ready to go off, and he could Repeal Chalice to replay it with 2 charge counters to prevent Echoing Truth. Perhaps you could combine combo, Chalice of the Void, and Leyline of Anticipation in the same way. Try using the search engine on the forum, but some cards in the list would be:

4 Repeal
4 Chalice of the Void
10 Mox/Lotuses/Sol Ring/Crypt/Vault
x Chrome Mox
1 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
4 Leyline of Anticipation
4 Force of Will
4 Empty the Warrens
x Sensei's Divining Top
x Mana base
++

There's some synergy there, at least.

[MaximumCDawg]

So lemme give this a shot.  I think Tobi's right here, so I'll start with this:

1. The deck should be good without Leyline
2. The deck should be the nuts with Leyline in play
3. The deck should have use for topdecked Leylines, or not have a problem with dead draws
4. The list should include many cards that make the most out of a Leyline in play, but are also good without it

It seems to me that the most powerful cards to combo with Leyline, which are not dead on their own, are discard spells.  Leyline+Raven's Crime in particular is a pretty nasty soft lock if you can keep the lands coming.  So start off with:

4 Leyline of the Void
4 Duress
4 Thoughtsezie
2 Raven's Crime

Late game Leylines are not useless here, since you can establish the lock whenever.  But we need a way to survive the early game; even with full power it will be hard to land a Leyline before the opponent can disrupt you.  So how about the unpower 8.

4 Null Rod
4 Chalice of the Void

We need some way to keep the lands flowing once we are established, and Life from the Loam sounds best.

1 Life from the Loam

And some way to win that likes to see the other cards we are playing:

4 Dark Confidant (beatz!)
2 Vampire Hexmage
1 Dark Depths

Round it out with some tutors:

1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Living Wish
3 Crop Rotation

And a land toolbox since we're packing Rotation, and Crime likes to see lands:

1 City of Brass
1 Maze of Ith
1 Strip Mine
3 Wasteland
1 Cabal Pit

And a manabase:

3 Verdant Catacombs
3 Polluted Delta
1 Misty Rainforest
2 Underground Sea
2 Bayou
1 Tropical Island
2 Swamp
1 Forest
1 Island

And, finally, sideboard:

Living wish toolbox:

1 Dark Depths
1 Vampire Hexmage
1 Wasteland
1 City of Brass

+12 metagame slots

So, this deck survives the early game with Chalice, Rod, and Duress effects, then seeks to either combo out Dark Times style, or establish a soft lock with Raven's Crime + Leyline of the Void.  The Leyline isn't a dead draw if it doesn't come down immediately, because hard casting it is value-added in mid game, too.

What do you think?

[policehq]

Oh man, what a shame. It's a fine deck, I'm sure, but you've got the wrong Leyline.

[waffles]

might try doing this as a legacy deck as the speed in this format is just too fast.