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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2010, 02:55:23 pm » |
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AWESOME!
The new wording is pretty cool. But mostly, I'm just glad this card is returning. It's a blast in Draft.
This is really, really cool.
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2010, 02:57:37 pm » |
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Man, I hate the new wording. I can see it. Sitting across from some dork at the prerelease, "Okay, I control you. Slap yourself! C'mon, I control you! hahahahah (insert more nerdy gamer laugh)." Ugh.
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2010, 02:59:21 pm » |
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Man, I hate the new wording. I can see it. Sitting across from some dork at the prerelease, "Okay, I control you. Slap yourself! C'mon, I control you! hahahahah (insert more nerdy gamer laugh)." Ugh.
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I just gotta topdeck better than you ^_^.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 06:30:14 pm » |
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So we can make all the decisions for that player? Like making him decide to concede?  |
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 06:56:46 pm » |
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This is just the card Slaver needed to be competitive!!
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 07:08:44 pm » |
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So we can make all the decisions for that player? Like making him decide to concede? Hm. I smell errata. |
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2010, 07:48:22 pm » |
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So we can make all the decisions for that player? Like making him decide to concede? Hm. I smell errata. That'sa good point - and actually a really obvious thing to miss. Why would WOTC miss something like that in the re-write? And what was wrong with the original wording? Weird, weird. |
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2010, 08:01:15 pm » |
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The new wording reminds me of a cute little card game called "Elixir", which has some Magic-inspired elements (playing as a wizard, using a variety of elements to fuel your spells, mostly), and in which certain cards have an effect outside of the game such has choosing a player who now has to do the next housekeeping duty (fetching drinks, cleaning the table...). I'm gonna make a deck with 4 of those, Tinker, Academy Ruins, and all that broken stuff, and play against my wife with this deck.
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2010, 11:25:45 am » |
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When Mirrodin first came out, the comp rules were updated saying that the "control a player's turn" effect explicitly does not allow you to concede on their behalf.
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010, 11:27:21 am » |
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When Mirrodin first came out, the comp rules were updated saying that the "control a player's turn" effect explicitly does not allow you to concede on their behalf.
Yeah, well, the card doesn't say that anymore... |
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2010, 01:59:45 pm » |
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When Mirrodin first came out, the comp rules were updated saying that the "control a player's turn" effect explicitly does not allow you to concede on their behalf.
Yeah, well, the card doesn't say that anymore... It doesn;t need to. There's a whole section devoted to this in the comp rules. |
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2010, 03:30:45 pm » |
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Well, if the thing gets triggered, it's pretty much over. Should be anyway . |
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Insult my mother, insult my sister, insult my girlfriend... but never ever use the words "restrict" and "Workshop" in the same sentence...
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 05:43:20 pm » |
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Well, if the thing gets triggered, it's pretty much over. Should be anyway . Luckily it doesn't "trigger". |
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I am currently looking for vintage players in NJ to test with. Please PM me if you are interested.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 07:07:46 pm » |
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I like the new art a lot. I thought I had a playset of Mindslavers that I picked up in 2005 for $1.50 but as I leafed through my old binder it turns out it was a playset of Pentavus, which I had associated w. Slaver.
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"It seems like a normal Monk deck with all the normal Monk cards. And then the clouds divide... something is revealed in the skies."
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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2010, 02:37:47 am » |
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 This card just highjacked your thread! |
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2010, 04:18:10 am » |
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Just wow. There is so much to fool around with for shop players the coming year. PS check out the flavor text. A mention to Great Furnace. Artifact land?
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2010, 07:31:49 am » |
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It's just like Tinker, if Tinker were printed in Homelands.
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2010, 07:53:31 am » |
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You are forgetting that good players can make bad cards work. Memnarch being one.
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Rand Paul is a stupid fuck, just like his daddy. Let's go buy some gold!!!
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2010, 07:57:56 am » |
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Re: Forgemaster
It's nice for Esper EDH decks, but I don't see it in Vintage. It costs 5 and requires an untap to work. It doesn't work with Null Rod... if you can satisfy those conditions isn't playing Karn, then animating and swinging for the win superior?
Besides, what are you going to fetch?
Sharuum ends up as a 5/5 flier for 5 that costs you a permanent, below the curve nowadays. She also can't be cast normally.
Sundering Titan blows up 2-3 of their lands, but requires you to sack three permanents of your own.
Possessed Portal is nice, but again is most relevant if you're ahead, since an opponent with Dark Confidant/Trygon Predator is probably still going to wreck you.
It is nice that it's repeatable (if you don't sack the Forgemaster itself), but I don't see any great targets. Are there Artifact Creatures with ETB -> Artifact creature tokens abilities? Maybe Pentavus. Even then you're using the first activation to find fodder for the subsequent activations (= not good).
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2010, 07:58:51 am » |
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This card just highjacked your thread!
Man, I hate it when that happens... (btw, there is another thread for that card already) Peace, -Troy |
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2010, 08:46:03 am » |
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This card just highjacked your thread!
Man, I hate it when that happens... (btw, there is another thread for that card already) Peace, -Troy Do you really feel like we needed a thread on Mindslaver's reprint in the Vintage Strategy Discussion? Ok, back to the topic, then. What impact do you think Mindslaver will have on Vintage? |
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2010, 11:04:34 am » |
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I think Mindslaver (Scars of Mirrodin) is strictly better than Mindslaver (Mirrodin without Scars) because it is mythic, and as we all know mythics are better+worth more. My list of cards currently not played in Vintage just got updated:
#3405. Mindslaver (Scars of Mirrodin)
#3406. Tarpan
#3407. Mindslaver (Mirrodin)
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Mickey Mouse is on a Magic card. Your argument is invalid.
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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2010, 02:10:33 am » |
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So ugly :S
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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2010, 02:38:18 pm » |
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So ugly :S
Agreed, but it's not like if the original art was beautiful in any way... |
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« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2010, 04:02:43 pm » |
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It was at least alot cooler than this one...
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