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« on: September 30, 2010, 01:30:50 pm » |
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With the release of cards like Mox Opal and Memnite, I was thinking that maybe this deck could start to work. Here's the list.
4x Underground Sea 4x Polluted Delta 3x Island 2x Scalding Tarn 1x Swamp 1x Tolarian Academy
4x Erayo, Soratami Ascendant 4x Memnite 4x Ornithopter 2x Master of Etherium
1x Mox Sapphire 1x Mox Emerald 1x Mox Ruby 1x Mox Pearl 1x Mox Jet 1x Mox Opal 1x Black Lotus 1x Lotus Petal 1x Sol Ring 1x Mana Crypt 1x Sensei's Divining Top
1x Ponder 1x Brainstorm 1x Tinker 1x Demonic Tutor 1x Vampiric Tutor 1x Ancestral Recall 1x Time Walk 2x Arcane Laboratory 4x Repeal 4x Force of Will 3x Thoughtseize
This list isn't the final draft by any means but the combo and win condition is there. I wasn't sure whether to go with Mono Blue or a UB build. But the key is to get Erayo flipped as early as possible with the use of the cheap spells available, lock it down with Arcane Laboratory and get Master of Etherium out to beat down your opponent to victory. I don't know if the disruption package is where I want it to be. And I'm sure there is plenty of editing here so if anyone could comment on what they'd change and the direction of this deck, I'd appreciate it.
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2010, 03:11:16 pm » |
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I'd suggest mainboard Hurkyl's.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2010, 03:17:02 pm » |
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You can probably squeeze a second Mox Opal in there with little risk. Also... I suggest dropping Tinker, or better yet... putting something to tinker for 
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2010, 03:21:13 pm » |
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Yeah, without commenting on the viability of Erayo one way or another, some of this list is a little sloppy - you have Tinker with no target, black with no YawgWill, those are issues that need sorting out, one way or another.
One direction you could take is adding white for Ethersworn Canonist, which has synergy with both your Erayos and your Masters.
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2010, 03:28:57 pm » |
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Instead of Memnite or Ornithopter, I would run:
Thoughtcast Thirst for Knowledge Tinker-Bot (Platinum Angel seems good) Yawgmoth's Will
I don't know, but going all-in on the Erayo plan seems horrible, since it is only a soft lock by itself. I would much rather be drawing cards than casting Memnites.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2010, 03:30:24 pm » |
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also, if you choose to run 8 free cards that do nothing on their own (well, one of them beats for 1), you might try to add some way to interact with those slots other than Erayo? (e.g. skullclamp, or any other stupid card. equipment maybe?)
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I will be playing four of these. I'll worry about the deck later.
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2010, 03:40:36 pm » |
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Frantic Search doesn't sound bad in this deck. Dig for Fuel or Yawgmoth's Will, and a free spell for Erayo.
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2010, 04:46:05 pm » |
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Preordain and Gush seem like they would do well in this deck, but if you went that route I would go mono blue personally.
Something like:
4 preordrain 4 gush 4 eryao 4 arcane lab 4 repeal restricted stuff 4 Memnite 4 Thoughtcast 4 master 4 force 1-2 MisD 4 seat of synod X islands
This is how i would go.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2010, 05:27:46 pm » |
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Yeah, without commenting on the viability of Erayo one way or another, some of this list is a little sloppy - you have Tinker with no target, black with no YawgWill, those are issues that need sorting out, one way or another.
One direction you could take is adding white for Ethersworn Canonist, which has synergy with both your Erayos and your Masters.
I am surprised you didnt' scream REPEAL.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2010, 06:37:22 pm » |
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I almost did, but he's already running them 
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2010, 06:49:28 pm » |
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Yea the list is very sloppy but that's cause there's so much id like to add but only so much that can go into the build. My idea was to use the cheap creatures to flip Erayo, get Arcane Lab out, and have Master of Etherium out to pump and swing. Yawgmoths Will definitely needs a spot if I make this UB. But I was also thinking of a Standstill version of this deck in mono blue form.
I might have to test out that list with preordain and gush.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2010, 07:00:12 pm » |
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If you like the Master of Eth route why not play Trinket Mage and a suite of artifact control cards like Pithing Needle, Engineered Explosives, Spellbombs, and of course the Top already in the list?
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2010, 05:00:23 am » |
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I was thinking about a similar deck with erayo, memnite, riddlesmith, skullclamp, ornithopter, thoughtcast... haven't tried it serious but it should allow turn 3 storm consistently. Playing turn 2 riddlesmith should be the key, the problem is creating huge amounts of mana without tolarian. Maybe the high tide way could be tested, but it would be a worse deck than high tide itself :p
Btw, the posted list with skullclamp seems nice; extra erayos could be clamped for 2 cards, and clamping memnites sounds cool. Should be add sage of epityr to assure a good T2 drop and clamping them too?
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2010, 06:35:12 am » |
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also, if you choose to run 8 free cards that do nothing on their own you might try to add some way to interact with those (dons Meatbert hat) ARCANE DENIAL
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2010, 11:42:05 am » |
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The 0cc creatures look godawful. Between trinket mage and power, flipping erayo should be easy enough without resolving to such craptastic cards.
If you add a set of dazes and a misdirection, you can protect erayo reasonably well and if necessary counter your own spell to flip. Daze also has synergy with both flipped and unflipped erayo, since she pushes the opponent into committing mana early.
Removing silly 0cc creatures also opens up space for more solid win-cons than those masters of etherium. Rebuild/hukyls in multiples and brainfreeze is one way to go, though there might be more powerful ways to exploit all the cheap artifacts the deck runs.
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2010, 12:49:51 pm » |
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I think you should maybe have Erayo as a supplemental part of a deck, and not the focus.
So instead of thinking about building around Erayo, maybe think of some decks that would normally function by themselves, but also supplement Erayo, and then add Erayo to them and tweak the build accordingly.
Affinity, for example, would supplement Erayo with all the free creatures. If you were playing some kind of Ninja/old school fish list with cheap, small creatures that fly like Cloud of Faeries, Erayo could work there, too.
Or if you just want to continue focusing on flipping Erayo or bust, I would suggest splashing green for Manamorphose and Ancient Stirrings.
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2010, 02:58:18 pm » |
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I think you should maybe have Erayo as a supplemental part of a deck, and not the focus.
Ditto Bob and duress effects might do well with this.
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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2010, 10:06:52 am » |
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I agree with making Erayo a supplemental part of the deck since it doesn't win the game on it's own. I was curious on how an Erayo Affinity deck might look so if anyone has any suggestions on what a list might look like I'd truly appreciate it. I know that I'd need a strong disruption package in the list and that the list would probably be either Mono Blue or Blue/Black. Again, any help on making a list would be appreciated. Thank you.
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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2010, 12:28:19 am » |
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also, if you choose to run 8 free cards that do nothing on their own you might try to add some way to interact with those (dons Meatbert hat) ARCANE DENIAL Hilarity aside, this is fascinating. What about something like this: Fast Mana (12) 5 Mox SRPEJ, 3 Chrome Mox 1 Mox Opal 3 Lotus/Ring/Crypt Land (14) 4 Polluted Delta 2 Flooded Strand 2 Underground Sea 2 Tundra 1 Tolarian Academy 2 Island 1 Swamp 1 Plains Critters (7) 4 Erayo 3 Ethersworn Canonist Permission (12) 4 Arcane Denial 4 Force of Will 4 Spell Pierce Disruption (4) 1 Chain of Vapor 1 Rebuild 1 Hurkyl's Recall 1 Diabolic Edict Draw (2) 1 Ancestral 1 Brainstorm Tutor (4) 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Tinker Win Con (4) 1 Inkwell Leviathan 1 Tendrils of Agony 1 Yawgmoth's Will 2 Vault/Key SB (15) 4 Leyline of the Void 2 Ylixid Jailer 2 Ravenous Trap 1 Myr Battlesphere 1 Hurkyl's Recall 2 Seal of Cleansing 1 Mindbreak Trap 2 Swords to Plowshares The idea being to either go for a Drain+Tendrils kill, or an Erayo+Canonist lock, depending on how the early game plays out. If you go Drain Tendrils, you'll probably be able to flip Erayo fairly easily. If you go for the lock, then Erayo works there, too, and you just tinker out Inkwell or go vault+key. The idea is that Eryao compliments both strategies and the deck keeps its "oops I win" possibility. The bounce all compliments this strategy too - Erayo and Tendrils like to bounce alot of artifacts, and the bounce also gets around Canonist if she's a problem when you topdeck a tendrils. Since you're running so many 1 and zero cc artifacts to generate storm, Arcane Denial is a natural fit. It wont help in storming out all at once, but it should help replenish late game lost gas. So, in theory, the deck can get by with less card draw than its peers.
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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2010, 01:47:41 pm » |
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5 Mox SRPEJ, That has to be the single weirdest way of listing the Moxen I've seen to date.
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2010, 01:49:47 pm » |
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5 Mox SRPEJ, That has to be the single weirdest way of listing the Moxen I've seen to date. You're right: SPERJ is better. Mox Asperjers!
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2010, 01:03:29 pm » |
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