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Sharkles
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« on: May 22, 2011, 03:27:43 am »

I'm going to start off by saying that I have an unpowered meta with no proxies.

Land
4 Forbidden Orchard
4 City of Brass
3 Forest
2 Misty Rainforest
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Bayou
1 Tropical Island
1 Strip Mine

Creatures
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria

Other Spells
4 Oath of Druids
4 Spell Pierce
4 Mana Leak
4 Duress
4 Nature's Claim
4 Crop Rotation
4 Gitaxian Probe
2 Thoughtseize
1 Krosan Reclamation
1 Regrowth
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Ponder
1 Brainstorm
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Lotus Petal

Thanks in advance!

EDIT:  I figured I should tell you my main competition.
I think my main competition is 2-Land Belcher, and essentially Legacy Stax with the Vintage legal mana sources (excluding moxes and lotus)
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2011, 05:29:06 pm »

I haven't found Gifts Ungiven or Fact or Fiction to be useful yet, thinking about taking them out maybe for two more Thoughtseize.
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2011, 07:22:49 pm »

Hi Smile

I am playing unpowered Oath myself (but in a full powered meta) and have found a very "fishy" Oath to be the strongest. You can just play the control role until you find the Oath and then win from there.
But, first to your list:

I really don't like the manabase. With 4 Forbidden Orchard you are already in a very good position to get a very stable base, without having to rely on City of Brass, so it would be a good idea to completly go the fetch route. Also, why do you have 3 basic forests? Isn't that a bit overkill? I would at least play one island. And why are there no Wastelands?
While two creatures is alright, I would strongly recommend three and one Show & Tell, to have a good plan b if a critter sticks on your hand or your oath gets destroyed.
Spells: You have very many dead spells there. What you do not want is Fact or Fiction and Gifts Ungiven, they are just too expensive to play unpowered. I would also cut Gitaxian Probes for Preordain, it's just the better card in this deck. Krosan Reclamation and Regrowth are also very meh with an unpowered deck.
You didn't tell very much about your meta, but if there is any deck packing counterspells your Crop Rotations will suck very fast. I also don't get why you would not play Force of Will if one of your greatest foes is 2-Land-Belcher.
And if we're at that topic, if the other one is Legacy Staxx, why are there no Null Rods? Bye Belcher, Metalworker, Monolith, Hellkite, LED, Trike, Karn.....etc.

That being said, you might want to look at this list for a more controlish version (polished for over a year now), which does fairly well in a full powered meta:

4x Forbidden Orchard
4x Misty Rainforest
2x Polluted Delta
2x Underground Sea
2x Tropical Island
1x Volcanic Island
1x Island
3x Wasteland
1x Strip Mine

1x Mana Crypt
1x Lotus Petal
1x Mox Diamond
3x Null Rod
1x Pithing Needle

4x Oath of Druids
1x Pernicious Deed

1x Sun Titan
1x Progenitus
1x Iona, Shield of Emeria

1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Ancient Grudge
4x Force of Will
3x Daze
3x Spell Pierce
3x Stifle
1x Brainstorm
1x Rebuild
3x Lightning Bolt

2x Preordain
1x Ponder
1x Show & Tell
1x Demonic Tutor

Side:

1x Stormtide Leviathan
1x Relic of Progenitus
4x Leyline of the Void
3x Pyroblast
4x Nature's Claim
2x Firespout

Hope I could help.

Greetings from Germany,

Florian
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2011, 02:20:30 pm »

Hi Smile

I am playing unpowered Oath myself (but in a full powered meta) and have found a very "fishy" Oath to be the strongest. You can just play the control role until you find the Oath and then win from there.
But, first to your list:

I really don't like the manabase. With 4 Forbidden Orchard you are already in a very good position to get a very stable base, without having to rely on City of Brass, so it would be a good idea to completly go the fetch route. Also, why do you have 3 basic forests? Isn't that a bit overkill? I would at least play one island. And why are there no Wastelands?
While two creatures is alright, I would strongly recommend three and one Show & Tell, to have a good plan b if a critter sticks on your hand or your oath gets destroyed.
Spells: You have very many dead spells there. What you do not want is Fact or Fiction and Gifts Ungiven, they are just too expensive to play unpowered. I would also cut Gitaxian Probes for Preordain, it's just the better card in this deck. Krosan Reclamation and Regrowth are also very meh with an unpowered deck.
You didn't tell very much about your meta, but if there is any deck packing counterspells your Crop Rotations will suck very fast. I also don't get why you would not play Force of Will if one of your greatest foes is 2-Land-Belcher.
And if we're at that topic, if the other one is Legacy Staxx, why are there no Null Rods? Bye Belcher, Metalworker, Monolith, Hellkite, LED, Trike, Karn.....etc.

In terms of the mana base, I have no Wastelands, but the Fetch route plus an Island sounds good.

I have Reclamation in here in case one of my creatures is the bottom card.  Maybe Gaea's Blessing would be better?
As for Regrowth I've only used it once so far and it was to get a Strip Mine back.

As for the Forces, don't have any of those either.  Although obtaining them is a work in progress.  There isn't a deck that packs counters as far as I know, and I totally forgot about Null Rod.

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll definitely try them out.
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 09:31:19 am »

Blessing is definitly better Smile
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2011, 10:32:52 am »

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