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« on: March 01, 2012, 05:57:35 pm » |
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Well, the new from the Vault will likely have massive value. Here's a thread for people to speculate on what's in there. I could only narrow it down to 17 without agonizing too much. I'm not sure what 3 I'd cut out of this, but I'm expecting Ancient Tomb, Command Tower, Dryad Arbor, Mishra's Factory, Reliquary Tower, Thawing Glaciers and Vesuva. I'm guessing that the new card out of the next block will be a big deal. I think there's a good chance they'll stay away from cards that are part of a cylce, such as fetchlands, tri-lands, snow-lands etc.... I'm looking forward to this one!
Ancient Tomb
Bosejiu, Who Shelter's All
City of Brass
Command Tower
Dark Depths
Darksteel Citadel
Dryad Arbor
Dust Bowl
Gemstone Caverns
Glacial Chasm
Mishra's Factory (EvT art)
Murmuring Bosk
Reliquary Tower
Thawing Glaciers
Tolaria West
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Vesuva
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 07:25:59 pm » |
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Thawing Glaciers is on the reserved list. I am really hoping that Ancient Tomb is in though.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 07:34:25 pm » |
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Would LOVE to get me some dirt cheap DDs
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 11:10:16 pm » |
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Have they confirmed anywhere that it's going to include a land from the new set? It would stand to reason that it would just based on the three non-Exiled FTVs released so far, but those announcements all specifically mentioned that it contains a new card, and this one did not. Did they say something about this in a different article?
Also, for reference, relevant lands on the Reser
A/B/U/Revised duals
Bazaar of Baghdad
Diamond Valley
Elephant Graveyard
Island of Wak-Wak
Library of Alexandria
Mishra's Workshop
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Rainbow Vale
Kjeldoran Outpost
Lake of the Dead
Thawing Glaciers
Undiscovered Paradise
Lotus Vale
Volrath's Stronghold
City of Traitors
Gaea's Cradle
Serra's Sanctum
Tolarian Academy
Yavimaya Hollow
And the irrelevant ones: City of Shadows, Sorrow's Path, Halls of Mist, Ice Age depletion lands, Balduvian Trading Post, Heart of Yavimaya, Sheltered Valley, Soldevi Excavations, Teferi's Isle, Griffin Canyon, Scorched Ruins, Winding Canyons
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2012, 11:10:37 pm » |
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Wow, I didn't even think to check on the Thawing Glaciers, since the preview art really looks like it. Perhaps it's Glacial Chasm?  How about some love for Griffin Canyon? It's part of a killer combo with anything that turns it into a creature-griffin. Winding Canyons also sees a lot of EDH play now. |
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 11:51:06 pm » |
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Wow, I didn't even think to check on the Thawing Glaciers, since the preview art really looks like it. Perhaps it's Glacial Chasm?
How about some love for Griffin Canyon? It's part of a killer combo with anything that turns it into a creature-griffin. Winding Canyons also sees a lot of EDH play now.
Chances are good it is Glacial Chasm. Also, there won't be a Winding Canyons in it, as it is on the reserved list as well. |
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2012, 07:16:19 am » |
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I see one major problem with your list. The spoiler did say: Some in new frame for the first time. You seem to have very few older cards in the list. I'd probably imagine some of these in there:
Arena (technically never new framed)
Cephalid Coliseum
Karakas
And some not so old ones:
Mutavault
Command Tower seems like a bad idea also, since it will be in every commander deck ever made.
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2012, 09:52:30 am » |
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Command Tower seems like a bad idea also, since it will be in every commander deck ever made. Yes, and Guru Islands were a bad idea, since there are basic islands in every base set.  I'll be surprised if they don't foil out Command Tower at some point, and this seems like the perfect time to do it. Karakas would be HUGE. It seems very likely that they'll reuse the Mishra's Factory art from Elspeth vs Tezzeret. They have a history of getting the most value possible out of art, with the FtV Sol Ring getting reprinted in Commander. |
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2012, 02:50:25 pm » |
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I think Wasteland has a good chance. Wasteland alone will fuel many MTGO sales because Maze of Ith, Karakas, etc. aren't really hot commodities online.
I'd bet strongly on Glacial Chasm (due to pic) and Dark Depths (pretty unique among lands in functionality).
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2012, 05:07:45 am » |
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*Tomb of urami has to be one of the 15...
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...along with either of these:
*Arena
Creeping tar pit
Dust bowl
*Dark depths
Deserted temple
*Ancient Tomb
*Bosejiu, Who Shelter's All
Dryad Arbor
Forbidden orchard
Gargoyle castle
*Horizon canopy
Inkmoth nexus
*Karakas
*Kor Haven
*Glacial Chasm
*Mutavault
Mikokoro, center of the sea
Nimbus maze
*Petrified field
*Riptide laboratory
*Rishadan port
River of tears
Scrying sheets
Tolaria West
Unholy grotto
Urza's Factory
*Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Vesuva
Zoetic cavern
*=the most likely to be in.
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2012, 12:30:21 pm » |
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I think that Dryad Arbor is the second most probably card to be in, aside from Glacial Chasm, given it's change in Oracle text from the color indicator rules/template change.
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2012, 02:52:57 pm » |
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From the Vault: Realms
15 Premium foil cards, including 7 with new art
Ancient Tomb
City of Brass
Command Tower
Dryad Arbor
Glacial Chasm
Karakas
Kor Haven
Lake of the Dead
Mishra's Factory
Pillar of the Paruns
Reliquary Tower
Rishadan Port
Sejiri Steppe (or Bojuka Bog, they need another cheap filler in this slot)
Tolaria West
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Wasteland
That's what I'd liked to see in there, and think it would be a sweet mix. All of these lands have a special "realm" feeling to them, and it's a mix of a few big dollar cards with mostly smaller stuff that appeals to EDH players.
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2012, 05:19:28 pm » |
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Lake of the Dead is on the reserved list. Otherwise you're good.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2012, 02:18:58 am » |
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Lake of the Dead is on the reserved list. Otherwise you're good.
Well that's good, since my list is 16 cards, and Lake of the Dead was the last card I added, for val. |
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2012, 02:44:06 pm » |
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So, now that Command Tower is going to be a judge foil, anyone want to second guess that it will be in here?
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2012, 02:58:09 pm » |
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I'm surprised nobody mentioned Forbidden Orchard. It is a "realmy" feel and very possible. It wouldn't be highly useful for much except fueling heart/oath decks.
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2012, 05:05:16 pm » |
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Orchard is actually played in a fair number of multicolor EDH decks, since you can choose to whom you give the token. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see it reprinted.
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2012, 09:21:48 pm » |
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I'm surprised nobody mentioned Forbidden Orchard. It is a "realmy" feel and very possible. It wouldn't be highly useful for much except fueling heart/oath decks.
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2012, 11:32:43 am » |
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Next judge foils, according to MTGS: Command Tower and Sneak Attack.
Likely prevents Command Tower from getting into FTV:Realms.
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