Dredge

[Samoht]

I'd like to ask everyone this question,
In a metagame filled with Blue Control, Fish and some Workshops, what is the optimal Dredge list? Should it have disruption, or go straight for speed? Also, if Dread Return is used, how effective is Elesh Norn? Is it worth the slot in the board or should that go for more anti hate?

Elesh Norn is a card for the Mirror. I don't think it is optimal for the above meta.

I think the best versions are designed to win games 2 and 3 through hate while still being potent game 1.

[msg67183]

I was implying that is what a good Fredge deck does, what I'm asking is what does the optimal list for that meta look like? Is there disruption in it? Or is it simply built to out race opponents?

[vaughnbros]

I was implying that is what a good Fredge deck does, what I'm asking is what does the optimal list for that meta look like? Is there disruption in it? Or is it simply built to out race opponents?

You'd want a balanced list capable of both resilient and fast.

You need speed because giving any deck too much time in this meta is a bad thing.  If your slow forgemaster into hellkite can be a problem, deathrite shaman and scavenging ooze can be problems, and trinket mage into hate is much easier to pull off.

You need resilience because wasteland will be a something you need to worry about and you will be seeing a lot of hate games 2 and 3.

You should definitely be playing both wasteland and dread return.

[msg67183]

I would think that you are saying play a deck with disruption (Unmask, Leyline), Wasteland protection (Pet Field) and Speed (Dread Return)...