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« on: April 15, 2014, 06:31:52 am »


Another spirit. 1 more mana cost than Ethersworn canonist, but skips the artifact clause. Unless you are playing a deck towards spirits/enchantments, it won't replace canonist, but it's an interesting card.

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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2014, 08:05:38 am »

This is an interesting card. Ethersworn Canonist always had some issues with the fact that it was basically a Glory Seeker against shops and not stopping moxes or vault/key in other matchups. I don't know if this thing being a horned turtle instead of a bear and 3cc instead of 2cc is enough to make this unplayable. I think a little casting cost diversity can be a good thing sometimes with chalice of the void and ratchet bomb. I guess it also begs the question of if you would prefer this card to a Rule of Law. With a specified lock piece like this perhaps you wouldn't want to introduce the vulnerabilities of being a creature for the ability to attack/block as well as a 1/4 can.
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2014, 01:20:15 pm »

I like this dork a lot in Legacy.  In that format, 4 toughness potentially ties up the ground pretty well against decks like Merfolk, Thresh, or Goblins, while also slowing down their deployment (unless they have vial). 

In Vintage...? I kind of like my dorks to be overwhelmingly powerful, cost 2 or less, or at least trade favorably with Shops creatures.  This spirit utterly fails that test.  It can't block or kill Lodestone.  Can't even stop a flipped Delver or a Goyf after turn 2.

I'm glad this card exists, but I can't see why I'd run this over Rule of Law if I wanted the Enchantment type, or Canonist if I wanted anti-storm tech. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2014, 07:19:55 pm »

I like this dork a lot in Legacy.  In that format, 4 toughness potentially ties up the ground pretty well against decks like Merfolk, Thresh, or Goblins, while also slowing down their deployment (unless they have vial). 

In Vintage...? I kind of like my dorks to be overwhelmingly powerful, cost 2 or less, or at least trade favorably with Shops creatures.  This spirit utterly fails that test.  It can't block or kill Lodestone.  Can't even stop a flipped Delver or a Goyf after turn 2.

I'm glad this card exists, but I can't see why I'd run this over Rule of Law if I wanted the Enchantment type, or Canonist if I wanted anti-storm tech. 

I think this guy opens deck creation room.  8 white Rule of Law in a UW deck with counters, factories, Spirit of Labs, Erayos (with heavy turn 1 mana accel) 4 rules that can attack or be walls vs early critters...it's not bad at all.  Add in 4 of the better true believer and you're in business.
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2014, 07:53:09 pm »

We already had eight rules of law in that deck; remember arcane lab?
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