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« on: December 22, 2015, 04:10:42 pm »

I wrote up a report of my experience with the VSL play-in tournament, and it went live today on Eternal Central:

http://www.eternalcentral.com/excelsior-a-vintage-super-league-play-in-report/

Many thanks to Jaco for being the gentleman and scholar that he is.

And many thanks to the community for all their support.  It was a lot of fun, and I am grateful that I had the opportunity to participate in this event, with that roster of talent. 

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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2015, 04:14:39 pm »

I'm excited to read this! Very Happy thanks for taking the time to write it!
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2015, 07:29:19 pm »

Looking forward to reading this, when I have a little bit of spare time.
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2015, 02:14:35 am »

Simply a fantastic read.
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2015, 04:05:34 am »

Beautiful report.  I finally had a chance to read the whole thing, line by line.   With a report like this, it's tough to figure out the approach.  I like that you basically asked folks to watch the videos, and then filled in the gaps with a focus on the critical junctures rather than an abundance of details.  I also felt like the report was cathartic for you, which gives it a nice payoff.

That said, I did not rewatch the videos, having watched them live - and I felt like there were a few critical junctures that weren't analyzed.  One thing that I didn't see in the report (which I read word for word, but may have somehow missed) was the unusual triple block situation. I remember LSV and the other commentator talking about how they didn't see that one coming.   There were a few other things like that, which I was curious about, but I'd have to rewatch the videos to remember them all.  Time permitted, I may do so - as I thought those two finals matches were completely fascinating.

I was also wondering if you had thoughts about Ochoa's play - and, specifically, how it differs from "traditional" workshop players, or is heterodox in anyway. David's precision is remarkable, and his capacity to find lines was truly impressive.  You praised many opponents, but I am very curious to hear your thoughts about his lines, style, etc., especially since Workshops are your wheel house. 



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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2015, 08:08:40 am »

What a read!
I feel privileged to read this!
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2015, 08:31:44 am »

Great article. Thank you so much for taking your time and writing something so in-depth. :]
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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2015, 08:53:55 am »

Awesome report. Didn't expect less Smile
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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2015, 09:28:17 am »

That was an amazing read, Nick. Thank you for doing this.
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2015, 09:31:26 am »

I said it in the report, and I'll say it again; thank you all for the support.  Being able to play in this event was a great honor, and having the support of the community after my run was over meant quite a lot.  Thank you.

Beautiful report.  I finally had a chance to read the whole thing, line by line.   With a report like this, it's tough to figure out the approach.  I like that you basically asked folks to watch the videos, and then filled in the gaps with a focus on the critical junctures rather than an abundance of details.  I also felt like the report was cathartic for you, which gives it a nice payoff.

Thank you, Steve.  

There was some catharsis to writing the report, definitely.  After it was all over, I wanted to crash, but after that, I wanted to play more.  I'm waiting on some cards to arrive, and look forward to playing more in January.  Given that I was a pillar of salt at the end of September, this is not where I thought I'd be now.  Shop Prison is still dead, but I'm back.

That said, I did not rewatch the videos, having watched them live - and I felt like there were a few critical junctures that weren't analyzed.  One thing that I didn't see in the report (which I read word for word, but may have somehow missed) was the unusual triple block situation. I remember LSV and the other commentator talking about how they didn't see that one coming.

I didn't talk about that instance, mostly because it was preceded by the missed Lodestone attack.  At that point in the game, I'm now under 50% to win, and need to rely on David making a play mistake in order to re-achieve the initiative.  I had to attack there, given the closing window and his active Crucible, and I had to hope that he didn't kill the Triskelion.  If he blocked incorrectly, he lost.  

I was also wondering if you had thoughts about Ochoa's play - and, specifically, how it differs from "traditional" workshop players, or is heterodox in anyway. David's precision is remarkable, and his capacity to find lines was truly impressive.  You praised many opponents, but I am very curious to hear your thoughts about his lines, style, etc., especially since Workshops are your wheel house. 

There are two major divisions within the Workshop pillar; Shop Prison and Shop Aggro.  Some decks straddle that line (Martello, at times), but most Workshop decks are easily categorized as one or the other.  

Shop Aggro demands a completely different skill set from Shop Prison.  I have more in common with Josh Potucek's Landstill decks when I play Shops than I have with Brian Schlossberg's Shop Aggro.  I am a control pilot, I just play with Workshops instead of Mana Drains.  

Clearly there are a lot of basic principles that translate between the two different styles of play, but I have eschewed Shop Aggro for a long, long time.  There are a lot of aspects of the basic strategy that I don't like, and will never truly be comfortable with.  Weren't we debating the merits of Shop Aggro in 2009?  Time goes on, but I still feel much the same.  The Arcbound Ravager/Triskelion/Hangarback Walker combination adds a very nice end game to the deck, and I like that a lot.  That said, until something can be done to revive Shop Prison, I'm going to have to get comfortable being uncomfortable.

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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2015, 09:55:02 am »

Also, for what it's worth, David's play was excellent that night.  He had some things break in his favor, but that's the nature of the game.

Think about it like this:

1.  He only got to activate Metalworker once.
2.  He never had a Hangarback Walker for more than two (I believe).
3.  He never cast Duplicant.
4.  He played one Wurmcoil Engine.
5.  He only won one game on the back of Crucible.

If you told me all those things before the match, I'd have believed that I won, having succeeded in executing my game plan (shut off Metalworker at all costs, negate Crucible of Worlds, hit him early and often).  It says something that he was as constrained as he was, yet managed to live within those boundaries and achieve victory.
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2015, 12:33:07 pm »

Great report, thanks for writing it. I enjoyed watching you in the play-in tournament and was rooting for you to make it through. I hope you get another chance for a future season.
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