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« on: January 28, 2004, 02:43:03 pm » |
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I know threads such as this have existed in the past, but I'd like to just have you post your top few cards that you believe have serious potential power in Type 1, but aren't seeing much play.
Note: I said much play. Don't go screaming because your deck has a card someone listed.
Here's 5 off the top of my head:
Zur's Weirding
Obliterate
Overmaster
Living Wish
Icy Manipulator
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2004, 03:01:20 pm » |
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Interesting thread. Here some of my choices with some explanations.
Engineered Plague
-This card is awesome in the board! It owns upon any deck running gobin welders. It is also good in so many other matchups that I cannot even begin to discuss it's merits.
Maze of Ith
-If the 'tog player does not have Wasteland they will loose to this card. Good against random aggro
Pernicious Deed (x4)
-I am aware that this card sees play in most Hulk builds as a one of but besides that I do not see it much. This is card is amazing in the format right now adn should be a four of in many decks. It destroys Stax/wMUD, it destroys TNT, it destoys Madness, The Big O etc... Much like the Plague it is so versitile that I don't understand why people are not building decks to harness the power of this card.
Smother
-Another powerful card that can kill most of the important creatures in Type 1 today ( Tog, Welders, Tokens, Stompy critters). Again I never see this card used in many boards. I don't know why.
Dwarven Miner
-This guy is a wrecking ball in the right metagame. He can single handedly win games if left active for a few turns. And all for 1R??
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2004, 03:04:55 pm » |
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Eureka
Shahrazad
Sylvan Library
Pursuit of Knowledge
Gamble
Diabolic Intent (w/Rector)
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2004, 03:19:00 pm » |
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Shahrazad This card was used (abused) by playing 4 of them in the sideboard. If you win the first game, you sideboard 4 to the main deck, and you win the opponent by running out of time.....  |
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2004, 03:28:20 pm » |
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Player one: Judge!
Judge: Yes?
Player one: My opponent has just cast Shahrazad.
Judge: *groan*
Player one: Can I concede the sub-game and enter the regular game at half life?
Judge: *smiles* Yes, yes you can.
Player two: *frown*
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2004, 03:50:11 pm » |
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lol ^^ so good  Zur's Weirding Orcish Lumberjack Tinderwall Exalted Angel Forest |
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2004, 03:52:25 pm » |
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Eureka I so almost put that on my list! Gotta love Eureka. |
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2004, 04:14:40 pm » |
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Maze of Ith
-If the 'tog player does not have Wasteland they will loose to this card. Good against random aggro While it does tend to buy some time against random aggro, Tog has more options than Wasteland and consession against the card. The easiest is to simply attack with more Togs than you have Mazes out. The un-mazed one then gets huge and kills you. The other common play is using Time Walk. They attack and you Maze. They take a Time Walk turn and attack into your now tapped Maze. Game over. And, um keeping on topic: Basalt Monolith Copy Artifact Bind |
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2004, 04:23:41 pm » |
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I am shocked and dismayed that no one mentioned Replenish despite the active, open Enchantress thread reminding them of the Banned-In-Extended, Yawgmoth's-Will-Without-The-Casting-Cost-Bit
REPLENISH.
That is all.
Edit: Actually, that's not all.
Karmic Justice
Mystic Enforcer (<3 <3 <3)
Holistic Wisdom
Orim's Chant
Humility
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2004, 04:33:35 pm » |
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Stormbind
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2004, 04:35:45 pm » |
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1) Howling Mine - more cards is usually good. Can you find a reason why your opponent might not want cards? Well... 2) Underworld Dreams - probably my absolute favorite card. When I used to play it, I didn't have any usable Draw-7 cards, so I instead decided to use Howling Mine. Also, Underworld Dreams was restricted at the time. I never won much with it  3) Time Vault - for years this card a target for abuse, from cards like Twiddle up to Voltaic Key. It's been errata'd to hell and back. I think it deserves more errata  4) Chains of Mephistopheles - probably doesn't see a lot of play because people groan when they see it and know what it is; it's not like it's a hard card to use in practice. 5) Stasis - I played with Stasis in the Ice Age block, when TurboStasis was a contender. Stasis is still really quite good, but god-damn if it isn't hard to lock a person these days. Stasis was always a slow-burner... maybe with Long.dec gone it can see some more T1 play? |
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2004, 04:43:06 pm » |
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2004, 04:53:53 pm » |
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Jester's Mask - Screwing your opponent is some good.
Spiritual Asylum - protecting your lands and artifacts? I'm going to bring back Tim in type 1
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Fastbond
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2004, 05:13:42 pm » |
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1. Carpet of Flowers
2. Balance-underused in relationship to how powerful it is.
3. Mishra's Workshop-abusing the three mana in a combo deck like long, etc. not an artifact deck.
4. Tempting Wurm
5. Meditate/Accumulated Knowledge
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2004, 05:59:05 pm » |
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Teferi's Puzzle Box
Winds of Change
Natural Order
Raven Guild Master (once you've achieved board control, this helps you maintain it. There's nothing like seeing a half-dozen restricted goodies in those top 10 cards.
these are more borderline. Eureka, though, is just insanity. I can't see why that hasn't been broken yet.
Oh yeah, and of course:
Eladamri's Vineyard
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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2004, 06:03:03 pm » |
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Cunning Wish. Without a doubt. There are enough powerful instants to be fetched.
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2004, 06:59:55 pm » |
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Caltrops  Slice and Dice |
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2004, 07:59:34 pm » |
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I have a LONG list of cards to break in SOME format. At the top is a 1.x deck I'm keeping secret, and also Show and Tell/Eureka/both.
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2004, 08:07:49 pm » |
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Channel (could this combo with some other card?)
Upwelling (see previous)
Candelabra of Tawnos (damn those null rods)
Icy Manipulator (see previous)
Mystic Remora (it was once good)
special mention goes to Spellweaver Helix
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2004, 08:27:04 pm » |
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Eureka (I've been tooling around trying to do something with this)
Slice and Dice (tokens roam too free nowadays)
Stunted Growth (really as a mechanic, not as a card)
Aether Rift
Static Orb
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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2004, 09:07:29 pm » |
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Juzam Djinn
Erhnam Djinn
Serendib Efreet
Frenetic Efreet
Wildfire Emissary
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2004, 09:10:57 pm » |
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-Gemini Engine
-Blinkmoth Nexus
-Replenish
-Blastoderm
-WINDS OF CHANGE!
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2004, 09:35:38 pm » |
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Fledgling Dragon
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2004, 09:45:50 pm » |
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[card]Nantuko Monastery[/card]
[card]Infernal Contract[/card]
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2004, 09:49:04 pm » |
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Doomsday
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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2004, 10:29:21 pm » |
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Uh...off the top of my head: Eureka (I have 4, but I'm still trying to break it so it cries like a little girl (and so do my opponents) Ernham Djinn Grinning Demon (same CC as Juzam, one more P/T, one more damage drawback, 5$ cost as opposed to Juzam's 80$+) Lifeline (With Altar of Dementia, it's very, very, very evil. Try it in multiplayer. If you don't leave truly dead, you'll leave a winner ) Chains of Mephistopheles (Oh, gods. Just evil. ) |
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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2004, 11:14:39 pm » |
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Perish
With the resurrection of Big Dumb Green Decks I think this card could start seeing play again.
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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2004, 11:54:23 pm » |
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Orcish Librarian
Planar Birth
Chimeric Idol
Slice and Dice (for the cycling ability)
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« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2004, 02:07:30 am » |
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After Darksteel, I think that people will start playing a lot more:
Dust to Dust. This is the only decently costed artifact removal from game effect that I can think of (other than Swords, but that's only for creatures). This card will also definitely go up in value too.
I just like Eureka, it's somehow begging to be broken.
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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2004, 03:14:47 am » |
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Can we just post a deck list for Parfait  Spiritmonger doomsday cephalid vandal  mana maze  (really old side tech long, goblins, or mono-red, green decks) gaea's craddle serra's sanctum tempting wurm |
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