Indeed, it was fun to play again afther a year of inactivity. I'll hope to find more time to play now.

TO report, decklists video's and results are posted on our site under the menu item "Results"
I'd like to thank Robrecht for the writing of the text.

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I'd like to inform you all that the preregistrations will end this friday 15/04/2011.

At this moment we have 45 preregistered players. The handing out of the Alpha Ancestral Recall is coming very close!

Already 27 preregistrations, this going into the right direction towards the 50 and the Alpha Ancestral Recall

All preregistrations are published periodically on our website:

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Update:

Veerle Delecluyse has confirmed she will be at the venue to accept commissions for altering cards. On our site we added a new page with some examples of her previous alters.

More information:
http://blackborderbrawl.tk

Registration:
blackborderbrawl@gmail.com

Here we have Odd Mutation, illustrating why he chose his nickname

Robrecht: congratz on the win and welcome to the club of tournament winners.

Punki: Indeed: Go Team Hasselt .

Belgium also will be represented with 8 people at least

Will this be something for Vintage?



discuss

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Registration:
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If you need it against Oath, then something went incredably wrong with your control deck.

To be honest: I don't like the deck, once you, as an opponent, knows the deck, it isn't that strong anymore. I do like drains (hence, I almost always play them), but this doesn't seem the way to go for me.

Actually those Wurmcoils are very good agains't combo due to it's lifelink ability. Each attack means 3 extra storm required..

From left to right: Kris (not registered on this forum) - Punki - myself - Overseer123
We wer on vacation in Annecy for BOM4, visiting the great lake.

Think wat you like, but I lost to that **** of a deck

Report - Dutch Vintage Champs – Top 8

Hi all, this weekend we all battled in Eindhoven to take the title of Dutch Vintage Champ. I managed to get a seat for the quarterfinals but unfortunately this was also the last stop of my journey for the title.
We were with 39 competitors and this was my weapon of choice:

Maindeck
4 force of will
3 mana drain
1 time walk
1 time vault
1 black lotus
1 mox emerald
1 mox pearl
1 mox ruby
1 mana crypt
1 ancestrall recall
1 mox jet
1 mox sapphire
4 misty rainforest
2 thoughtseize
2 scalding tarn
1 brainstorm
3 underground sea
2 tropical island
1 volcanic island
2 jace the mindsculptor
1 island
1 snow-covered island
1 forest
1 tolarian academy
1 merchant scroll
1 voltaic key
1 sensei's dvining top
3 spell pierce
4 dark confidant
2 trygon predator
1 tinker
1 inkwell leviathan
1 sol ring
1 hurkyll's recall
1 demonic tutor
1 yawmoth's will
1 mystical tutor
1 gifst ungiven
1 nature's claim
1 vamperic tutor
1 darkblast

sideboard:
3 nature;s claim
1 pyroblast
2 red elemental blast
2 mindbreak trap
1 sower of temptation
1 extirpate
1 relic of progenitus
4 yixlid jailer

Round 1/6 - MUD
I won the die rol and leaded with an island. My opponent played a mox and tried to cast his sol ring. I spell pierced the sol ring. This seemed a very good choice there my opponent didn’t had any other mana source and he stayed on just one mana for the remainder of the game. The second game I drew enough hate and was able to quickly assemble my combo for the win.
=> Win : 1-0

Round 2/6 – Gush combo
My opponent for this round was Zieby, someone who’s known to be a very skillful vintage player who was probably playing a combo deck. He kept while I mulliganned and accidently showed him my Jace. He told me he was happy that he kept this hand because this should give him a very decent fighting chance.  Actually to be honest, I don’t recall much of this game except for the fact that I drew more counters for the counter war than Zieby and this gave me the game. Game 2 I opened with a Dark Confidant followed by another one. I rode this card advantage with an attacking body to victory by assembling also Vault – Key and tutoring for a Jace in the infinite turns.
=> Win : 2-0

Round 3/6 Portal MUD
In this round I played Steven Vanderbulk. I knew he was playing an experimental deck and decided to keep a decent hand with 2 dark confidants but no black mana.  My first 5 draws were my other black cards (I only lacked the Darkblast)  and lost the game due to the inability to cast any of these spells. The second game I led with a first turn Inkwell Leviathan (Tinker + Tolarian Academy and Mana Crypt). He was able to cast enough creatures to block and kill my Leviathan while I never drew another land.
=> Loss : 2-1

Round 4/6 5c Stax
Peter Reynders, my travel and team mate was my opponent for this round. I opened very broken, setting me up for a second turn kill. Peter opened even ore broken and was able to stop me from winning the second turn by casting a Tanglewire which I forced, and tinkering for a Sundering Titan, killing my black mana source which I desperately needed in my upkeep to win the game on turn 2. I played another Underground Sea in my turn but also here Peter had the necessary wasteland to prevent me from winning fast enough to escape the death by Titan. Game 2 I can’t recall anymore, but he also won that one. No need to say that he walked home …
=> Loss : 2 - 2

Round 5/6 WG Beats
At this point I already abandoned all hope for the top 8 but decided to play on to see how far I could get. I opened the game with a Voltaic Key and passed the turn. My opponent played a land and passed. I did the same. Bart played Null Rod. This made me decide to use my mystical tutor to tutor for Tinker. I Tinkered my key into an Inkwell Leviathan and rode him to victory.  Somewhere in between I also killed a summoning sick Mother of Runes with my Darkblast. The second game was a lot more fun there I opened with a lot of artifact mana which got shut down by Null Rod. I managed to keep his bord clear of creatures for some time until I drew one of my nature’s claims which freed my mana and gave me the ability to assemble my combo through a Yawgmoth’s will.
=>Win : 3 – 2

Round 6/6 Homebrew U/R Control
I saw the standings and the only way I could make T8 was when Peter and another friend of mine drew there game. They would never do this intentionally because this meant that they also lost their chance on hitting the T8. At this time the TO announced that there would be prices handed out to everyone with 12 points or more. I decided to give my opponent a run for his money and started the game with a first turn Trygon Predator of a Black Lotus. Afther some turns of attacking my opponent stole my Trygon with a Sower of Temptation followed by a Trinisphere. My graveyard grew bigger and bigger. At some point I managed to cast a Jace and I bounced the Sower of Temptation, returning my little servant to his owner. My hand contained some counterspells, a Will and a Gifts. The will on its own would secure me the game so I needed to make sure this one resolved. At this point my opponent tapped 3 mana whiche resulted in him having only 5 mana available to cast a tinker into an Inkwell. At the end of this turn I tried to use my gifts with he happily countered, leaving him at 2 mana.  In my first mainfase I casted my will which he couldn’t counter due to his own Trinisphere. Next I attacked with my trygon killing his Trinisphere, which allowed me to replay my lotus, mox emerald and 2 Tutors into Vault – Key, giving me the game. While sideboarding the TO announced time which meant I won this round also.
=> Win : 4-2

I went to Peter asking what he did and he told me his game went into a draw. I wasn’t hoping anymore on a T8 spot, but then the TO told me “Benji, Nicely done” and he showed me the 8-th place with my name next to it .

quarterfinal Portal MUD
Again against Steve. I drew my opening seven and saw 2 Trygon Predator and 2 lands. I decided that since I was playing some sort of MUD this hand would give me a nice opportunity to win if I drew a land so I kept. Needless to say this third land never showed up… Game 2 he opened with 2 chalices, cutting me off my spells in hand and I also lost this one.

Afther all this had been a very nice tournament and I enjoyed it a lot.

I will be there

Don't get your hopes up, you know where you belong: on the lower tables, you will be only there to make the difference in points even bigger in favor of the Belgian's

You liar! You were nowhere to be seen. Chicken!


And the Hasselt posse was there in almost full force (2 people were occupied due to work )

Strange it hasn't been mentioned before, but 4 of this tingy, 4 goblin welders, 4 Mindslaver, 4 Soul foundry, 4 memnite, 4 kuldotha Forgemaster can be a good start to build a combodeck around that focuses on slavering your opponent every turn. (I'm not saying this would be viable, but it can be done...)

Also Umezawa Jitte is looking for it's recognition as does llawan, cephalid empress

Actually, there is a theorethical way to measure skill of 2 given players with a certain deck.

Create 2 exact the same decks
Order those decks identically
let every player make it's spells at the same time witouth having a look at the plays the opponent does.
at the end of turn both players can view the position of the other player and draw his next card.
The player that wins at the end of the game has had the better skill in that game there all weapons were equal.
If it ends in a draw, both had equal skill.

There might be some flaws in this system but it's a good start in tryig to measure skill of players but i think that we are derailing to much from the topic if we discuss this further...

I have really taken the time to read this thread with great interest and have come to the following conclusion:

It's clearly a fact that here on the Manadrain there is a great distance between members who think before they write and players who write and then start thinking.
If this kind of behaviour is also exercised during tournaments, then I really start to understand why there's a big gap in America between the "good" players and the "scrubs".

Whoever stating Workshopdecks are bad i can tell you: Please pick up the deck and play skillfully with it. This deck is a powerhouse!
The fact is that this deck is experienced as "less consitant" is because it is very difficult to make the right mulligan decissions and the deck has no deckmanipulation to make up for a bad decission. (otherwise try to explain me why 2 Exactly the same MUD decks made Top 8 in BOM V (I consider this tournament more of a word championship then the joke in gencon they call "world champs") if they are "bad" or "inconsistent"? 9 rounds of pure luck followed with some 3 more? -> I don't buy it!)


I even dare to make following bald statements concerning Vintage, it's decks and it's players:

Disclaimer: Please take these statements with some grain of salt because they are only intended to make you think about these. Those statements arent exclusive and defined since there are allways graduations, nuances and exceptions.

1. Every competitive deck in Vintage is good in a vacuum. It's only in a given metagame that a deck becomes "bad" or "superb" or "mediocre".
2. Every deck in Vintage is as easy as it's skillfull. It's just the players perception on the given deck and it's intelligence that defines a type of required skill.
3. Not a deck is difficult or easy. It's the player that has to be defined as smart or stupid.

If I had more time i should write an article explaining these 3 statements, but for now you have to do it with them as is.

Second that !!!

If this 100 man tournament is a world championship, then Eurovino or Bom are the Intergalactical Championships. These statements of the "Word Championship" actually bother me enormously.
I can live with the statement USA Champion of something of that kind though.

Sharpening my knife ....

@ Zieby: Congratulations, this is a hughe repsonsability to take and i'll wish you all the strength and courage necessary to perform these new duties that are now part of your life!


Children are, luckily for Zieby, not allowed to chose

@ Zieby and Soly: Thanks for the advices, i'm building around these and the new results are promising but i still need more testing before making any statements or comments.
@ Zieby: Congrats with the baby!

I'm glad i have been of some assitance proving you MUD is sometimes so inconsistant I won't take up that deck in the near future. It failed me miserably this Sunday.

I don't like the fact that I have to agree with you Marske but this time you're right exept for the fact that YOU should pack . They definatly should fly in sime european players to get their ass whooped professionaly. Maybe then they'll realise the written rule that American's are actually behind on Europe if it concerns Vintage!

Make an invite for a select European players and we will prove/back up this statement!

If someone pays my ticket and hotel: count me in.

But I guess i have to work those days. I really would like to join one of these Gen Con's some day

Personally I think this card has the wost value in Combo-decks. Using the stormcount of the opponent to kill at instant speek seems very sick. I don't know if this card can be broken for Vintage play, but i guess i would try it in a comboshell.