Keep dreaming, it doesn't work. Once the Chalice of the Void ability is on the stack, it will resolve even if the CotV is no longer in play. Removing the source of an effect will not negate the effect itself, it's a basic ruling.

Also, Ravenous Baloth comes out of Extended in the next rotation, in 2008. If they reprint it in 10th we can still play with it for a long time

yup, you are right, he is indeed Alejandro Escribano.

winning five pieces of beta power and half a playset of FBB duals in a single tourney is a great achievement.

QFT. The art on basic lands from Mirage and Urza's Saga are the best IMO.

It's interesting they are bringing back Incinerate, it's a superb instant removal and will increase red power level.

C'mon guys, no one will give a bit of love to Spain? We deserve to be mentioned at least...

Our team doesn't look like it can do much to win this cup, but we'll reach quarterfinals for sure.

If you are facing a deck that packs Wasteland, this card is not useful as a counterspell; not for them preventing you from reaching UU, but for them not having spells to be targeted with this.
Versus Stacks decks, this is just a bad tutor. Versus fish, it's mostly a tutor for your win that can counter a Swords here and a FoW there.

Playing a Wasteland on second turn is ok, but it's not the best play in every situation, and you won't have a waste to play every second turn. Decks with basics and fetch will play those first if they are able, and if they do, the best you can do is drop a land that give you colored mana. I understand playing a Wasteland if you have multiples in hand but, if that's not the case, I don't understand why would you want to give up the possibility to play more than one spell in the same turn.
Also, wasteland shouldn't be played before you resolve a threat unless you are mana flooded. If you resolved a first turn Oath, a second turn wasteland may be your best play, aside from Time Walk. If you don't have an Oath, you need to spend resources on searching for it, that means you need mana to play tutors, Brainstorm, Impulse and activating the Top.

Taping out on your main phase to play transmute can be a pain in the ass. However, transmute cannot be countered. If you think you are "safe", you can transmute an Oath in your second turn and drop it on the third, with two mana untaped to answer with Mana Leak. That's slow as hell, but at least now you have an Oath in play and not whatever card sitting on your hand.

It finds Oath and Time Walk, that's enough for me. It can also find a Demonic Tutor if you are so desperate.


I'm not saying that every Oath list should pack a pair of Muddle the Mixture, I'm only saying it's another card that is useful enough to be played in certain metagames. I would ever play it in a control infested metagame, and I doubt I would do so if there are lots of workshops decks.

I have been playing with two Muddle the Mixture in the maindeck since the card was released, and I like it a lot. It's really weak versus Workshop decks, where it's almost a dead card, but versus control decks is strong.

It's also another tutor for that Time Walk to "win right now". I have done that shit a lot of times: drop an Oath and Time Walk, then Oath something and tutor Time Walk, then wipe your opponent out of the game.

Muddle the Mixture also gives you a bit of flexibility. You can pack a few silver bullets, like Balance and Null Rod and tutor for them if needed.

So... that's the second Black Lotus won by Alejandro Escribano in a week. Props to him!


Also, Abraham Ureña Top8ed again with his pet deck, Rectal Agony. He has been playing that deck and making great results with it for a long time now.

The two most relevant spanish vintage sites are www.elsantuario.tk and http://www.perracomics.com/perrera/index.php. In those sites you can find almost all the information of spanish vintage tournaments.


Gaby van Dinteren and David Morales are really good spanish players, but they are not the best ones. Alejandro Escribano (the guy who split the finals with Stephane Tichadou on the French Vintage Championships) may be the best spanish vintage player, and Jose Luis Gonzalez Requejo is another name to remember.

The link he gave to you should work. Anyhow, these are the links to decklist from both day one and day two:

Day one:
http://www.drakhar.com/elsantuario/mazos/waterbury051015.html
Day two:
http://www.drakhar.com/elsantuario/mazos/waterbury051016.html


In the main page (www.elsantuario.tk) you can find more decklist from other tournaments.

The wording should be (changes in bold):

Withering Library

As ~this~ comes into play, pay any amount of life and ~this~ comes into play with that many <flavor> counters on it. You don't lose life if they just counter the card. Prevent memory issues.
At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a <flavor> counter from ~this~ and draw a card. If you can't, sacrifice ~this~. Things triggers at the beginning, not during.
When ~this~ leaves play, remove your hand from the game.


I really like this card, it's more powerful than Phyrexian Arena; and have some little nice tricks with Donate xD

Being one win less from making Top 8 in a Pro Tour doesn't look like a subpar performing to me. Not every deck can have a show in a Top 8, and that doesn't mean the deck is not good. Also, a deck that can win by only casting two spells (that have a nice curve) in the entire game should have some consideration.

I'm not saying that Time Vault should get banned this December 1. There are not many people with a playset of Time Vault, and a great showing of FlameVault in a tournament might be one or two decks in a Top8. FlameVault will never be a dominating deck in Legacy due to its relative high price value; the same happen in Type 1 with UbaStax (at least until 15+ proxies are allowed). If Time Vault ever get banned in Legacy, it wont be banned because it's a dominant card, there wont be enough of them to infest a tournament the way goblins are doing now.


Sure, that is. If Wizards don't ban cards due to value reasons, then they should unban Illusionary Mask. A 12/12 is a huge beating, but it is a lot more easy to disrupt. Many of the creature hate kill it (from StP to some Edict; even a Night of Souls' Betrayal) and it has a low converted mana cost (Overload, Smother, Engineered Explosives and Powder Keg comes to mind)

Well, it seems that in Legacy they ban cards not only for it's power but also for it's money value (Illusionary Mask?), so if an expensive card like Time Vault get so much hype and people everywhere are complaining about it, they might go and ban the card.

Legacy is not intended to be an elitist format, so a deck that work around a 100 US$ card is not acceptable, even if the deck hasn't made any great perform in tournaments. Also, Wizards' Legacy tournaments are no proxy, and we all know what that means.

There are other powerful and expensive cards that might get a ban someday, like Moat and Chains of Mephistopheles, not for being extremely powerful but for being extremely hard to find or expensive, but for now none of them have get so much hype as Time Vault has.

I'm a...



Fuck, I hate when a test knows more about me than I myself.

I don't own any Wayfarer, but I like that card and would play it if I ever play any kind of WU Fish.

If you want to purchase Spanish cards the best site to do so is www.mtgmetropolis.com. They also ship some cards in other languages if they don't have Spanish or English ones. Don't know if they ship to the US, but I think they do. They also accept PayPal.
The bad is that it's pretty expensive (who pays 25 euros for a pithing needle?)

I'm from Spain and had visited Barcelona twice (I live in the south, in Sevilla). I don't know many Spanish vintage players that visit TMD, but at least I know of two that have posted there

I share your thoughts, Barna is an awesome city. The beauty of the buildings, the streets... I don't remenber too much, I went to Barna to attend a Manga/Anime convention that is held in October and missed the tourist part of the travel xD all I remember is Plaza Catalunya, Plaza Urquinaona, Las Ramblas, Via Laietana and the Cathedral (my hotel was near those places ).

well, good luck in your travel, hope you don't get annoyed with the... er... dialect that is Catalan

The text of the card that can be seen in the Saviors FAQ is as follow:

1U  Legendary Creature -- Moonfolk Monk  1/1
Flying
Whenever the fourth spell of a turn is played, flip Erayo, Soratami Ascendant.
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Erayo's Essence
Legendary Enchantment
Whenever an opponent plays a spell for the first time in a turn, counter that spell.


The ability counts the spells played by both you and your opponent.
Erayo's Essence have also received errata. The former wording was weird (how was supposed to work?)

even better, Night of Souls' Betrayal

Where is the mana crypt!?!

There is a card that I have been trying since months ago in my Raffinity builds wich have a lot of sinergy with the modular ability. Triskelion is a machine gun in combination with Ravager (apparently Jesse River have used it in his affinity build that have made top8 in SCG).

Triskelion works like a Disciple of the Vault that doesn't die to Lava Dart or Fire/Ice and that can be recovered with Myr Retriever. The list that I built used Helm of Awakening in order to reduce costs and make an infinite recursion with Myr Retriever. If you add Genesis Chamber, then you have a huge amount of tokens to sacrifice with ravager and then ping with Triskelion.

Speaking of your build, I think it's fast, but don't have any kind of disruption aside SoFI. Tangle Wire is a great card in this deck because you use a lot of equipment, and Chalice of the Void could work also.

Combo decks are now a lot more powerful that once were, thanks to the restriction of Trinisphere and the development of new fast archetypes like Meandeck SX.

The fact is that those decks are not easy to play, you can make a lot of mistakes playing fast combo decks due to their huge amount of options they offers to you. That is what overwhelm most of the inexperienced players that try to play combo in a tournament without playtesting sufficiently.

In the other hand Oath is a easy deck to play. Oath and other easy-to-play decks will experiment a grow in their play numbers, whereas fast combo numbers will remain the same. The main change that would happen to fast combo is that it will perform better in tournaments than before the restriction of trinisphere.

If you think you need some more life to use Yawgmoth's Bargain, then fetch an Illusions of Grandeur; it gives you a lot of cards to combo out with Tendrils or with Donate + Chain of Vapor.

Genju of the Realm is an interesting alternate way of victory, but it is crap if they strip the enchanted land because you will never be able to play it again from your hand fast enough... Form of the Dragon is still better as an alternate kill condition.

In my version I run four copies of cabal therapy, which I think is great because it allows you to combo off first turn without the need of attacking, and can be flashbacked using a clamped ornithopter. However, a more slow version would thanks the addition of xantid swarm.

IMO kobolds is nearly as fast as belcher is, it shouldn't run slow like a TPS o dragon build (OMG shit most of your spells cost no mana, combo it RIGHT NOW!!1!11!), so an agressive fast build is better than a slower one.

here is my version:

Mana
4x Gemstone Mine
5x Moxes
1x Black Lotus
1x Lotus Petal
1x Mana Crypt
4x Dark Ritual
3x Culling the Weak

Creatures
12x Kobolds
4x Ornithopter
4x ESG
3x Auriok Steelshaper

Stuff
3x Skullclamp
4x Glimpse of Nature
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Yawgmoth's Bargain
1x Wheel of Fortune
2x Tendrils of Agony
4x Cabal Therapy

I don't have a sideboard (I haven't played in a tournament with it yet).

This deck is freakin' fast but have a lot of crapy hands that must be mulliganed into more crapy hands and so on...