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1  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Is there any hope for this deck? on: January 02, 2009, 05:21:53 pm
Alright I'll take a look into those cards, thanks so much for your assistance.
2  Eternal Formats / Creative / Is there any hope for this deck? on: January 02, 2009, 03:58:01 am
There are not many Vintage players where I am, but I would still like to play it. I'm not a newb to Magic in general, but I am to competitive type 1 play. I wanted to try to run this deck, but I don't know if it would be able to hold its own in type 1 if I modified it.  If someone could take a look at the decklist, that would be cool.  I don't have a lot of the power yet, but I'm not sure what to take out and keep in etc.  The point of the deck is to get fastbond and horn of greed out and to search through the deck until you have the proper cards to kill your opponent.  I can usually defend against counters etc. with orim's chant and Academy Rector, and sideboard against them.  I'm really not so sure of what to do with the sideboard either...

3x Academy Rector
1x Zuran Orb
2x Crucible of Worlds
4x Horn of Greed
1x scroll rack
1x fastbond
2x seal of cleansing
1x Necropotence
1x crop rotation
1x demonic tutor
1x cruel tutor
1x vampiric tutor
1x imperial seal
1x beseech the queen
1x grim tutor
1x enlightened tutor
2x diabolic intent
4x dark ritual
1x regrowth
4x orim's chant
3x Oboro, Palace in the Clouds
1x Barbarian Ring
4x Bayou
2x glacial chasm
4x city of brass
4x Savannah
3x scrubland
1x strip mine
4x Windswept heath

sideboard
4x Xantid Swarm
1x Academy Rector
4x cabal therapy
2x diabolic intent
1x living Wish
1x Krosan Reclamation
1x balance
1x glacial chasm


3  Eternal Formats / Creative / Fastbond Deck on: September 05, 2005, 01:31:54 am
It's been a while since I posted the last version of this deck. I followed the advice of adding black in, and found I could make it a lot quicker. I took out extras such as glacial chasm and oboro and stuck them on the side and in place of them put in living wish and death wish. I took out mana vault and crypt and two seals of cleansing and concordant crossroads and put in 4 dark rituals and necropotence. I found that the addition of the dark rituals and the necropotence would help me cast horn and crucible very quickly and would also allow me to cast death wish and necropotence as well. I don't know if I should change the white to blue, or what I should be using as the kill card now. I used to use thaumatog along with concord crossroads and the fastbond,crucible, and glacial chasm. But I realize that things like concordant crossroads could end up in my hand as dead cards with no purpose. I guess I should put in barbarian ring, although I'm going to miss my thaumatog so very much. I've read up on decks like mine and I see exploration quite a lot, but is there any real purpose in it, when you just want to tutor and find fastbond anyway? And I feel that I have the necessary means of fetching fastbond through scroll rack the tutors the  grove, necropotence, and in protecting it, orim's chant, sterling grove, living wish. should I put xantid swarm in instead of orim's though?So anyway I want to be able to participate in type 1 tournaments one day so here is the deck and wishboard.

Lands
4x windswept heath
4xsavannah
4x bayou
3x scrubland
4x city of brass
2xglacial chasm
1x strip mine
1x barbarian ring
3x oboro, palace in the clouds

Artifacts
4x horn of greed
1x zuran orb
2x scroll rack
2x crucible of worlds


enchantments
4x sterling grove
1x fastbond
1x necropotence
2x seal of cleansing

instants/sorceries
1x vampiric tutor
1x demonic tutor
1x enlightened tutor
4x orim's chant
1x balance
1x crop rotation
2x living wish
2x death wish
4x dark ritual

W.B.
1x thaumatog-in case barb ring is extracted or something
2x eternal witness- to bring back fastbond
1x shatterstorm to deal with platinum angel and the like
2x tranquility- to deal with other enchantments before I play fastbond
1x regrowth- to fish out fastbond from the grave just in case
1x city of solitude to keep fastbond from being counterd
2x mystic snake- to stop other spells I don't want to be played
1x woodripper- getting rid of artifacts without losing half of my life
2x glacial chasm- so they don't clutter the maindeck too much.
1x final judgement to get rid of artifacts plus darksteel colossus
1x oboro palace in the clouds- so it wouldn't clutter up the deck so much

Also, if anyone has any ideas of a version without a wishboard that would be interesting as well. I would greatly appreciate anyone who could help me with this deck. Smile


4  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: U/W Vial Fish on: August 10, 2005, 09:20:28 pm
This deck looks very effective. But, you may want to make it a bit quicker just in case you can't get out the vials. You can add flying men to it or even manta riders(I think that's what those merfolk were called) and also, just in case you may want a bit more counterspells in that mix. I cab see why you put those weathered wayfarers. But, you'll only be able to use it when you're opponent has more mana than you. I'd take that out maybe and add either flying men or manta riders.
5  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: solitary on: August 09, 2005, 10:31:35 pm
What you can do with this deck if you want is add in the words cards from onslaught. And  I believe with the black words of waste there was a combo with undead gladiator  and undersold cemetery(I think that's the name of the card). Words of waste, words of wisdom, and words of wilding would work well with the deck because after you play cheap enchantments with a prescence out you could just use sanctum with the words, whichever one you use. But, you may just be better off using just decree. But if you decide this is a good idea you could just take out some non-enchantmens and the two decree and add the black words combo maybe.
6  Eternal Formats / Creative / Thaumatog on: August 05, 2005, 01:06:41 am
Hello. I always wanted to make an effective deck that was original to a degree and effective in a type one environment. In this particular deck thaumatog is the kill card. It is basically a combo g/w deck. The combo that is most important is getting out horn of greed, fastbond, and Oboro, Palace in the Clouds. When Oboro is tapped I can use the mana to return it to my hand using it's ability. Then I basically just keep on drawing until I come by a glacial chasm. It is most unlikely that I won't since I have 2x scroll rack and a crop rotation. Once I have the combo out I usually either clear the board with balance or place unquestioned authority on thaumatog.  But, right before the thaumatog comes out I'll play concordant crossroads. Then I will play crucible of worlds and as I sack lands to thaumatog I can bring them back into play creating an infinite loop. And to keep myself from drawing out I'll usually destroy the horn of greed with a naturalize or disenchant and of course sack the chasm before the kill. I know all this seems a bit complex to work, but I can usually draw as many cards as I want with the combo. Also besides attacking for infinite damage it is also possible to gain infinite life(thanks to zuran orb) or destroy all of my opponent's lands(by playing strip mine several times). And another important point of the deck is playing orim's chant to get by the countering that is present in so many type 1 decks. If anyone has any suggestions on how to make this deck quicker or more effective in a type one environment it would be highly appreciated. I am on sort of a limited budget, but at the same time you can mention some cards that I may be able to get once I build up enough cash.

Lands
4x savannah
4x windswept heath
4x oboro, palace in the clouds
4x glacial chasm
1x strip mine
4x brushland
4x forest
3x plains

Spells
2x naturalize
2x disenchant
4x orim's chant
1x crop rotation
1x regrowth
1x balance
1x enlightened tutor

creatures
2x thaumatog

Artifacts
4x horn of greed
4x crucible of worlds
2x scroll rack
1x zuran orb

enchantments
1x fastbond
1x concordant crossroads
4x sterling grove
1x unquestioned authority

sideboard
1x feldon's cane (to get fastbond out of my graveyard if it ends up there)
2xacademy rector (to make fast bond easier to get out against a counter deck, where I'll be able to block creatures, or even balance it against an opponent with no creatures)
4x final judgement (against a large swarm of creatures when I don't have the combo)
2x skull of orm (in case fastbond hits the grave)
4x swords to plowshares ( against annoying creatures like platinum angel or darksteel colossus)
2x city of solitude (more anti- counterspell stuff)

If you could please help me make this deck into a more formidable type 1 deck I would greatly appreciate it. Smile

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