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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: MTGO Play Points & changes to Dailies
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on: July 25, 2015, 04:38:12 pm
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Is cardhoarder still the best dealer to sell your cards too? any bot in particular?
You can get a quote from all of them. I got quotes Thursday night Cardhoarder's quote is automated on their website. Dojotrade e-mailed me a quote in a couple of minutes. Mtgotraders e-mailed me a quote 20 hours later. I would look to sell your cards individually. You are taking a huge pay cut if you sell your collection as a whole. The chains offered me 1000-1500 less than what I was able to get selling cards individually. For reference I came out with 6423 tickets from selling cards individually. I would at least consider making everything for trade and mass selling cards to bot chains that way. You're taking a huge pay cut for convenience if you sell your collection as a whole. |
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: MTGO Play Points & changes to Dailies
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on: July 25, 2015, 01:53:44 pm
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I sold everything.
I have been unhappy with the last 30 months of mtgo management. They are going to create more untrade-able objects in the future. I wanted to sell my collection while it's still worth something. And I had little interest in the constructed meta games. Those reasons made me quit.
I got a lot more selling my cards individually than what the bot chains were offering. I got about 1,000 more tickets selling the cards to bots than selling the entire collection to a bot chain. I made about ~$100/hour painstakingly selling cards 1 by 1 cross referencing buylist prices.
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Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: 13th with Landstill at Eternal Extravaganza 2
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on: March 17, 2015, 12:14:55 am
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Can you explain the thought process behind bringing in extirpate vs all your opponents? What are you trying to remove from their deck? Is this an optimal card to bring in vs fair decks or were you just trying to mise people? I'm new to vintage so I don't know the utility of extirpate in those match ups. My frame of reference is following legacy for the past 2 years and you'd rarely bring in an extraction effect vs a fair deck (there are exceptions, I see the merit in bringing it in vs punishing fire/loam)
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Eternal Formats / Online Tournaments / Re: Modo Rant
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on: February 28, 2015, 02:26:17 pm
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I believe after you have played your first match of the day (DE or casual) and have chosen your deck, that you will not be asked which deck you are playing after this. I know this happens when you select a deck then host a match in casual. All the vintage events you join, whether they be casual or paid events, will join with that deck. The way to fix that is to restart mtgo, or to go back to the casual room deck selection screen and click restore defaults. I never host casual matches anymore so I do not have to deal with that bug. I don't think this happens if you join DEs with a deck. The next DE you join should prompt you asking for which deck you want to use. |
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Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: Sphinx Tribal
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on: February 16, 2015, 02:29:24 am
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Played about 10 matches tonight on mtgo. Went 2-2 in the DE.
The card that underperformed for me was dig through time, very rarely was I able to cast it. The card just pitched to force most of the time. This deck plays too many permanents so you're barely going to delve with it. Is there any other card manipulation that you can play in that spot? I'd guess thirst for knowledge can probably replace one dig.
Arcane denial is also really bad unless you have sphinx or notion thief out.
Trinisphere was great in the sideboard. Elesh norn was also amazing, though it's hard to tell when to bring it in. The mentor decks only play 4 mentors, so you don't always see them game 1.
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Eternal Formats / Online Tournaments / Re: MTGO Holiday Special Vintage Tournament
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on: December 22, 2014, 10:17:46 am
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Delver is cheap in the fact that buying it lets you play a ton of other blue decks. Where as buying wastelands doesn't let you play as many different decks. And then there's that looming feeling that Mike Turian will finally pull his head out from the darkness and have wasteland be a MOCS promo (with hopefully tempest drafts). People with limited budgets will see that they can buy most of the blue decks for X amount, or they can buy shop decks for X-Y amount and have a smaller range of decks to play.
Do you want to have a huge % of your collection tied in wastelands, or do you want to diversify your investment so you can play multiple decks in multiple formats, and you won't feel as bad when cards get reprinted.
If you're not tied to any deck it makes more sense to buy into delver.
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Magic Online Power Nine Owners
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on: December 10, 2014, 04:36:47 am
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Exactly correct, don't let yourself fooled by price of P9 on MODO. It is very misleading and they'll burn you elsewhere as they shift the digital scarcity on other cards. Legacy staples on MODO are basically your new P9 (FOW $30, Scalding Tarn $35, Wasteland $100,...)
Also, any staples from Masques & Mirage blocks are currently a big problem:
- LED $30
The Mirage LED might be $30, but the vintage masters one is only $10. http://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Vintage+Masters/Lions+Eye+Diamond#onlineThis whole thread is about "Digital P9 owners" so I'm just warning wanabe MTGO Vintage players.
It is helpful for people who are careless with their money. But there are websites that show you the price of entire decks. And people can easily find out the price of all the cards in the deck they want to buy. http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/vintage#onlineAnd if you use a 3rd party website to buy all your cards at once, they'll give you an itemized breakdown of all the cards you want to buy. |
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Magic Online Power Nine Owners
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on: December 02, 2014, 06:47:55 pm
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Mtgo is also self sustaining. If you're an above average constructed player you won't need to buy tickets or new cards after you invested a certain amount. Speculation is even more profitable than grinding daily events. In fact you can make a small bit of money off mtgo. Grinders can use mtgo to fund their standard paper collection. Before they reduced the number of DEs last year, grinding mtgo earned you minimum wage (in the US). And people in Brazil used to feed their families off mtgo.
Though if you only want to play vintage it is a steep cost. It sounds like you don't want to invest $300 in a standard deck and slowly build towards a vintage collection.
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Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: Treasure Cruise
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on: September 29, 2014, 03:03:06 pm
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Well that all makes sense. Snapcaster has counter synergy with TC and fetches help fuel it. I think by and large the theory is for 1 less mana you get 3 cards as opposed to a creature and 1, and since snapcaster is not the best creature in the world without the extra card your able to run better bodies you actually want and still get your spells.
The downside if any is that snapcaster allows you to recast time walk in a tempo based list, but if the deck does function correctly odds are you will not need to many extra turns.
Snapcaster is less vulnerable to some hate since it is a 2/1 Flash bear at the worst, but TC does have more upside and I imagine will get shuffled away if not needed.
The thing about TC is it gets around some of the hate that may be played against graveyard decks like Grafdiggers, but it totally dead against Leyline and rest in peace. It'll be interesting to see how the meta adjusts its board hate and how badly that affects dredge.
I think the reason why he played zero snapcaster is that his deck only had 17 lands. His most expensive spell main deck cost 2 mana, which was young pyromancer. Snapcaster only costs 2 if you flash back probe. |
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Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: Is KTK a new Alara Block
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on: September 09, 2014, 08:59:02 pm
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How many playables did Dragons Maze have? or Avacyn? It's like I said before, a set does not have to contribute too many cards to affect the format.
Craterhoof Behemoth Entreat the Angels Griselbrand Cavern of Souls Restoration Angel Terminus Vexing Devil ( won a modern GP) Desolate Lighthouse (staple in Modern UR twin decks) fringe playable Misthollow Griffin (legacy food chain) Wild Defiance (modern infect) Sigarda Host of Herons (melira pod) |
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Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: - New Mechanic: Everything Is a Wee Dragonaut!
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on: August 19, 2014, 08:24:22 pm
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Those are, for the most part, hybrids of draw-go and tap-out control decks. They might hold up countermagic some of the time, especially in the late game, but they spend just as much time tapping out to play a Jace, a detention Sphere, etc. I'm thinking more about the blue control decks that mostly run counterspells for disruption. There might be some wraths and removal to clean up what gets past the wall of counters. Wizards has said in their articles that this is a play style they consider unfun. It wouldn't even have to be the best deck in the format, just competitive enough that I could play it for a whole year. The PT winning decklist, while still a hybrid, leans more on the draw-go side of the spectrum, and I might even have chosen to get into standard to play it if rotation wasn't happening in a month. Once rotation happens, that deck will no longer be viable.
On Mana leak, Wizards seems to not want to reprint that card, because they somehow think It will bring back a tier 1 tempo deck, despite the fact that it will not without good threats and cantrips. It doesn't even look like Control will have any chance against midrange after rotation, from what the Sam Stoddard Article says. I agree that draw go decks will probably be dead with the next set. But I think you missed out on playing control decks for the past couple years. Take a look at this deck that won GP Brisbane in 2011. The only sorcery speed cards it plays is a sweeper, and creature win conditions. That's pretty close to draw go, and like you said WotC does not like making that deck tier 1. So if that's the closet you'll ever get to draw go then why didn't you play it? |
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Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: - New Mechanic: Everything Is a Wee Dragonaut!
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on: August 19, 2014, 02:06:22 pm
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I might play Standard if draw-go was viable. But they can't have that, new players who aren't used to counterspells might find it unfun. The least they could do is just push noncreature spells a little more. Make creature-light strategies more viable(I know that the Pt Winning deck was creatureless, but Control may straight up die after rotation). You sound like sour grapes mixed with the good old day syndrome. Draw go has been great for the past 2 years. We got our millstone in nephalia drownyard. We got stroke of genius in revelation. We got morphling in aetherling. We got a blue regrowth in snapcaster mage. We got wrath of god in supreme verdict. We got mana leak/dissolve instead of counter spell. We got think twice instead of accumulated knowledge. You can win in standard with elixir of immortality as your win condition. Draw go has been tier 1/2 for the past 2 years in standard, where have you been? |
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