[Report] Myriad Games Vintage June 3rd, 2006 w/T8 Decks

[Myriad Games]

The Myriad Games Vintage Tournament announcement for June 3rd, 2006 can be found here.

Thank you to everyone who attended our latest Vintage tournament here at Myriad Games.

Rich Thompson won the Preregistration Bonus Dual Land.

The T-Shirt Challenge continued to be popular. We gave away 3 Myriad Games T-Shirts. Thanks to everyone who participated. For those of you who did not win this time, thank you for playing. Those of you who haven't won a T-shirt can try again next time.

Every player received one of Sara's famous Myriad Games Magical Mana Cookies!

Myriad Games will be hosting our next Vintage Tournament on July 15th.

As always, if you have any comments or suggestions about our events, please email us at vintage@myriadgames.com

Tournament Results

1st Place: Rich Shay w/Control Slaver
2nd Place: Pat Broderick w/Control Slaver
3rd Place: Demonic Attorney w/Control Slaver
4th Place: Craig Masley w/Repeal Gifts
5th Place: Travis Laplante w/Workshop Slaver
6th Place: Bill Copes w/Uba Stax
7th Place: Greg Hughes w/Salvagers
8th Place: Matt Shea w/Stax

Finals
Rich Shay vs Pat Broderick

Top 4

• Rich Shay vs Demonic Attorney
• Pat Broderick vs Craig Masley

Top 8

• Rich Shay vs Bill Copes
• Pat Broderick vs Travis Laplante
• Demonic Attorney vs Greg Hughes
• Craig Masley vs Matt Shea

Final Results
Final Place Player  Deck

1st   Rich Shay w/Control Slaver
2nd   Pat Broderick w/Control Slaver
3rd   Demonic Attorney w/Control Slaver
4th   Craig Masley w/Repeal Gifts
5th   Travis Laplante w/Workshop Slaver
6th   Bill Copes w/Uba Stax
7th   Greg Hughes w/Salvagers
8th   Matt Shea w/Stax
9th   Chris Hatcher w/Uba Stax
10th  Sean Stanley w/Sligh
11th  David Lee w/Repeal Gifts
12th  Chris Leclerc w/Oath Salvagers
13th  Patrick Malone w/Stax
14th  Keith Skillin w/The Mountains Win Again
15th  Dana Renfrew w/Mono Green Stompy
16th  Oliver Beaumont w/Salvagers
17th  Eric Vincent w/Sligh
18th  John Joyce w/Birdsh*t
19th  Scott Jensen w/Suicide Black
20th  Rich Thompson w/Shared Fate Control
21st  Dan Stemkoski w/Suicide Black
22nd  Jeff Carpenter w/Oath
23rd  Derek McAtavey w/Control Slaver
24th  Andy Probasco w/Repeal Gifts
25th  Matt Denham w/Grim Long
26th  Chester Smith w/Casual R/G/U Beats
27th  Stefan Ellsworth w/Ichorid
28th  Jeremiah Rudolph w/Control Slaver
29th  Mike Bergeron w/U/W Fish
30th  Charles Gagnon w/Control Slaver
31st  Jared Carter w/Ichorid
32nd  Chad Behre w/The Mountains Win Again
33rd  Kyle Guillemette w/Doomsday

Top 8 Decklists

1st Place: Rich Shay w/Control Slaver aka "Ninja Killer"

1x Tolarian Academy
1x Library of Alexandria
3x Island
4x Volcanic Island
2x Underground Sea
3x Polluted Delta
2x Flooded Strand
3x Goblin Welder
1x Triskelion
1x Darksteel Colossus
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Pearl
1x Black Lotus
1x Mana Crypt
1x Mana Vault
1x Sol Ring
2x Mindslaver
4x Brainstorm
4x Thirst for Knowledge
1x Ancestral Recall
4x Mana Drain
4x Force of Will
1x Time Walk
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Tinker
1x Tormod's Crypt
1x Echoing Truth
1x Mystical Tutor
1x Merchant Scroll
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Memory Jar
2x Repeal

Sideboard:
1x Tormod's Crypt
2x Rack and Ruin
1x Pyroblast
2x Red Elemental Blast
1x Ensnaring Bridge
4x Leyline of the Void
3x Pyroclasm
1x Boseiju, Who Shelters All

2nd Place: Pat Broderick w/Control Slaver

4x Volcanic Island
3x Underground Sea
3x Island
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Emerald
1x Black Lotus
1x Mana Crypt
1x Sol Ring
2x Flooded Strand
2x Polluted Delta
1x Strip Mine
1x Wasteland
1x Library of Alexandria
4x Mana Drain
4x Force of Will
4x Goblin Welder
4x Thirst for Knowledge
4x Brainstorm
2x Mindslaver
1x Triskelion
1x Darksteel Colossus
1x Crucible of Worlds
1x Gorilla Shaman
1x Tormod's Crypt
1x Fact or Fiction
1x Ancestral Recall
1x Time Walk
1x Mystical Tutor
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Tinker
1x Echoing Truth

Sideboard:
3x Rack and Ruin
3x Duress
2x Flametongue Kavu
1x Tormod's Crypt
1x Sundering Titan
1x Fire Ice
1x Darkblast
1x Rushing River
1x Pyroclasm
1x Gorilla Shaman

3rd Place: Demonic Attorney w/Control Slaver

4x Force of Will
4x Mana Drain
4x Brainstorm
4x Thirst for Knowledge
3x Goblin Welder
2x Mindslaver
1x Sundering Titan
1x Triskelion
1x Ancestral Recall
1x Time Walk
1x Fact or Fiction
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Tinker
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Lava Dart
1x Tormod's Crypt
1x Yawgmoth's Will
3x Repeal
3x Polluted Delta
2x Flooded Strand
3x Underground Sea
3x Volcanic Island
1x Library of Alexandria
1x Tolarian Academy
3x Island
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Emerald
1x Black Lotus
1x Sol Ring
1x Mana Crypt
1x Strip Mine

Sideboard:
1x Boseiju, Who Shelters All
2x Red Elemental Blast
2x Duress
3x Old Man of the Sea
3x Rack and Ruin
2x Arcane Laboratory
1x Platinum Angel
1x Tormod's Crypt

4th Place: Craig Masley w/Repeal Gifts - Decklist withheld by Craig's request

5th Place: Travis Laplante w/Workshop Slaver

1x Duplicant
1x Gorilla Shaman
3x Duress
4x Goblin Welder
1x Memory Jar
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Rebuild
3x Island
4x Mishra's Workshop
2x Mindslaver
4x Brainstorm
4x Thirst for Knowledge
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Time Walk
2x Underground Sea
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Tolarian Academy
1x Ancestral Recall
1x Mana Crypt
2x Volcanic Island
4x Polluted Delta
1x Tinker
1x Library of Alexandria
1x Mind's Desire
1x Mana Vault
1x Chain of Vapor
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Ruby
1x Sol Ring
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Lotus Petal
1x Triskelion
1x Mox Pearl
1x Black Lotus
1x Mox Emerald
1x Swamp
1x Sundering Titan
1x Mystical Tutor

Sideboard:
1x Rushing River
2x Echoing Truth
1x Darkblast
2x Lava Dart
2x Rack and Ruin
3x Tormod's Crypt
4x Pyrostatic Pillar

6th Place: Bill Copes w/Uba Stax

4x Goblin Welder
1x Gorilla Shaman
1x Trinisphere
1x Sundering Titan
3x Tangle Wire
1x Triskelion
1x Granite Shard
4x Uba Mask
3x Jester's Cap
4x Chalice of the Void
3x Crucible of Worlds
4x Juggernaut
4x Mishra's Workshop
4x Bazaar of Baghdad
3x Barbarian Ring
1x Strip Mine
1x Ghost Quarter
4x Wasteland
1x Tolarian Academy
3x Mountain
1x Mana Vault
1x Grim Monolith
1x Sol Ring
1x Mana Crypt
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Black Lotus

Sideboard:
2x Granite Shard
3x Tormod's Crypt
3x Goblin Bombardment
2x Duplicant
2x Shattering Spree
2x Rack and Ruin
1x Triskelion

7th Place: Greg Hughes w/Salvagers

4x Oath of Druids
4x Dark Ritual
4x Leyline of the Void
4x Unmask
4x Duress
3x Ill-Gotten Gains
3x Night's Whisper
2x Auriok Salvagers
2x Brainstorm
1x Mystical Tutor
2x Pyrite Spellbomb
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Imperial Seal
1x Ancestral Recall
1x Enlightened Tutor
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Crop Rotation
1x Chain of Vapor
4x Forbidden Orchard
3x Polluted Delta
2x Scrubland
1x Flooded Strand
1x Underground Sea
1x Bayou
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Mox Jet
1x Black Lotus
1x Lion's Eye Diamond
1x Lotus Petal
1x Chrome Mox

Sideboard:
4x Force of Will
4x Annul
2x Brainstorm
1x Razia, Boros Archangel
1x Spirit of the Night
1x Gaea's Blessing
1x Island
1x Chain of Vapor

8th Place: Matt Shea w/Stax aka "Nazis Riding Dinosaurs"

3x Goblin Welder
1x Gorilla Shaman
3x Juggernaut
2x Triskelion
1x Duplicant
1x Razormane Masticore
1x Sundering Titan
1x Memnarch
3x Crucible of Worlds
2x Sensei's Divining Top
1x Mindslaver
1x Memory Jar
1x Trinisphere
1x Wheel of Fortune
1x Tinker
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Balance
1x Time Walk
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Darkblast
1x Ancestral Recall
1x Crop Rotation
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Gilded Lotus
1x Mana Vault
1x Sol Ring
1x Mana Crypt
1x Black Lotus
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Mox Jet
4x Mishra's Workshop
4x Gemstone Mine
3x City of Brass
3x Wasteland
1x Tolarian Academy
1x Tendo Ice Bridge
1x Strip Mine
1x Darksteel Citadel

Sideboard:
4x Tormod's Crypt
4x Chalice of the Void
2x Rack and Ruin
2x Ray of Revelation
1x Aura Fracture
1x Duplicant
1x Swords to Plowshares

Also, here's a bonus deck list from Dana Renfrew aka "Master Tap" who was one match away from making Top 8:

15th Place: Dana Renfrew w/Stompy

4x Ghazban Ogre
4x Jungle Lion
4x Skyshroud Elite
4x Scavenger Folk
4x Rogue Elephant
4x Viridian Zealot
4x Rancor
4x Giant Growth
4x Bounty of the Hunt
3x Root Maze
3x Winter Orb
4x Elvish Spirit Guide
4x Land Grant
10x Forest

Sideboard:
15x Relentless Rats

Thanks again to everyone for coming. We'll look forward to seeing everyone at the next Myriad Games Vintage Tournament on July 15th.

[tehmajickguy]

Jesus, would you look at all those Repeals.....

[Hatchman]

Repeal is good but cant deal with 3sphere!!


Good Job Rich!! I would have gotten you in the top 8 if it wasnt for dam percentages............01%



Hatch

[The Atog Lord]

Master Tap was one game away from making top eight. Stompy, no Strip Mine, no sideboard. So cool.

[Smmenen]

Team GG.  Why can't you beat Shay and his deck?  Why does your gifts list ALWAYS lose to control slaver, or, at least, not win tournaments?  OMG we added Repeal to gifts and Andy Probasco couldn't even make top 8 in a 30 person tournament!  SOunds like the perfect deck for Rochester!  Not!

[MoxMonkey]

Rich Why is there a Memory Jar in CS again.   

You still lost to the power of Ninja even with the Ninja killer deck 

[M.Solymossy]

I've played Rich Via Magic Workstation for about two weeks with the Jar, and I played it in south Milwaukee, and I must say... It and Repeal are the nuts.

[TheBrassMan]

Team GG.  Why can't you beat Shay and his deck?  Why does your gifts list ALWAYS lose to control slaver, or, at least, not win tournaments?  OMG we added Repeal to gifts and Andy Probasco couldn't even make top 8 in a 30 person tournament!  SOunds like the perfect deck for Rochester!  Not!

Well Steve, I'm not very good at magic.  That could have something to do with it.

[Juggernaut GO]

you guys should have a bitch slapping contest at rochester.  Kowal will be there on day 1 for the test subject.

[T00L]

I probably would have top 8'd had I played a real deck.

[Juggernaut GO]

ichorid has so many insane plays !!!!@!$#one!!!1

[T00L]

You're right it does have one play...and its the fastest one in the game

[Jacob Orlove]

Team GG.  Why can't you beat Shay and his deck?  Why does your gifts list ALWAYS lose to control slaver, or, at least, not win tournaments?  OMG we added Repeal to gifts and Andy Probasco couldn't even make top 8 in a 30 person tournament!  SOunds like the perfect deck for Rochester!  Not!

Well Steve, I'm not very good at magic.  That could have something to do with it.

That's only true because you think it is.

[Smmenen]

Team GG.  Why can't you beat Shay and his deck?  Why does your gifts list ALWAYS lose to control slaver, or, at least, not win tournaments?  OMG we added Repeal to gifts and Andy Probasco couldn't even make top 8 in a 30 person tournament!  SOunds like the perfect deck for Rochester!  Not!

Well Steve, I'm not very good at magic.  That could have something to do with it.

Then how did you make the pro tour?

Usually when people lose consistently playing the same deck they switch decks. 

[Whatever Works]

Team GG.  Why can't you beat Shay and his deck?  Why does your gifts list ALWAYS lose to control slaver, or, at least, not win tournaments?  OMG we added Repeal to gifts and Andy Probasco couldn't even make top 8 in a 30 person tournament!  SOunds like the perfect deck for Rochester!  Not!

Well Steve, I'm not very good at magic.  That could have something to do with it.

Then how did you make the pro tour?

Usually when people lose consistently playing the same deck they switch decks. 

As a small sidenote... Team GG did take 1st/2nd/5th at the last New England tournement... But people dont realize this because Andy Probasco is an extremely modest magic player who is quiet in victory and defeat.

Though I agree with Smennen. You should switch decks.

[nataz]

andy is a noob,
I <3 meandecks

[The Atog Lord]

Brassman is a modest man in a world of egos. He also understands Type One theory better than just about anyone.
As for his deck, for a while Brassman had a really good deck. Then Wizards decided to end that game. So, the list he had been working on and tuning for a long time isn't playable anymore.

[nataz]

ichorid has so many insane plays !!!!@!$#one!!!1

eot ancestral recall you

[Smmenen]

I am a little confused why other people feel compelled to speak on behalf of Andy.  I know full well that he is capable of voicing his own opinion.  I was surprised that Rich thinks that my second to last post was a bit harsh.  I was even more surprised that Rich feels compelled to speak on Andy’s behalf.  Do you think I’m attacking him?  Why is this perceived as a meandeck v. gg attack or contest instead of an honest inquiry? 

Furthermore, I also am very confused about Rich’s assertion.  Andy’s best performances, that I can recall, with his Gifts list were 2nd place at Gencon and top 3 at SCG Richmond in October.  His list at Gencon ran Severance and Belcher (as did his list before that).  Why, Rich, do you think his list went from great to suddenly unplayable when a) he had performed at major events before with Belcher and not Time Vault and b) Andy has said that the win condition isn’t that important – in fact he ran Mishra’s Factories as a win condition in the past?  That just doesn’t make sense.  The loss of Time Vault should not make a deck that was great into unplayable.  Particularly when you consider that Andy ran Severance-Belcher over Time Vault the first day of the last SCG Richmond in March!! 

[The Atog Lord]

Steve,

The loss of Time Vault really hurt Brassman's Gifts deck. While Brassman did not consistently play his Flame Gifts build, his teammates did, often to good results. Outlaw exemplifies this -- he won quite a few pieces of power with Brassman's deck.

The fact is that the win condition does matter. Having a six mana 2-card combo in the deck allows the deck to run a full set of tutors, and makes each of those tutors much better than it otherwise would be. Most importantly. having such an efficient combo allowed the deck to Win Small, something that Gifts is often not too good at. So, the win condition doesn't matter very much when Gifts is going off like a combo deck using Yawgmoth's Will -- then, the deck often has piles of extra mana sitting around. However, the win condition does matter when you're trying to assemble the win without going off. In those instances, the efficiency of the Flame Vault kill enabled the deck to Win Small much better than any other build of Gifts.

Finally, on the subject of harshness. Do you really think that your post wasn't harsh? I PM'd you because, when I read your post, it did seem a bit harsh towards Andy.

[nataz]

Why is this perceived as a meandeck v. gg attack or contest instead of an honest inquiry? 

Because villains make magic more fun, and your persona makes for a great black hat.

Andy comes across like the ultimate nice guy, where as you often come across as (hmmm...how should I put this nicely) well, not.
This is all of course irrespective of both your real personalities and what-not, just outward perceptions.

 
*edit
spelling is weak

[AJFirst]

So does spelling.
-AJ

[Juggernaut GO]

I have a fear of a black hat.

[Smmenen]

Steve,

The loss of Time Vault really hurt Brassman's Gifts deck. While Brassman did not consistently play his Flame Gifts build, his teammates did, often to good results. Outlaw exemplifies this -- he won quite a few pieces of power with Brassman's deck.

The fact is that the win condition does matter. Having a six mana 2-card combo in the deck allows the deck to run a full set of tutors, and makes each of those tutors much better than it otherwise would be. Most importantly. having such an efficient combo allowed the deck to Win Small, something that Gifts is often not too good at. So, the win condition doesn't matter very much when Gifts is going off like a combo deck using Yawgmoth's Will -- then, the deck often has piles of extra mana sitting around. However, the win condition does matter when you're trying to assemble the win without going off. In those instances, the efficiency of the Flame Vault kill enabled the deck to Win Small much better than any other build of Gifts.

Finally, on the subject of harshness. Do you really think that your post wasn't harsh? I PM'd you because, when I read your post, it did seem a bit harsh towards Andy.

It retrospect, it was a bit harsh.  But why do you care?  You've never pmed me before about anything like this.  I don’t see why you felt it necessary to pm me about this.  What motivated you?  I thought it was surprising and a bit odd. 

I come across as not a nice guy?  I thought magic was a war of ideas and wits, not good versus evil.  My mistake.  How does whether I’m a nice guy or not matter one lick?  And why do you think I do not come across as a nice guy?  I think I’m a very nice guy. 

[Disburden]

In a society based around a foundamental religion like Christianity, it's hard to not see things as good vs. evil.

I'm kidding.

I think that we should see what happens at Rochester before we say that Brassman's Gifts isn't that good. I would've changed my deck perference to something else too, but maybe he just likes the deck so much. I dunno. Shay's new list looks really good though, I really like the Repeals in the Rack and Ruin/ other metagame slots. I'd like to hear more about his deck than the unknown Gifts list. We can't even see the deck, so I can't even talk about it. All I know is that it has Repeal in it. I'm assuming that it runs just Colossus now?

[M.Solymossy]

 If you think steve's mean, fine, be that way, but really, you just gotta know how to accept his way of voicing his oppinions.   The way he says things may come off as harsh, but he only intends to further conversation.  Steve, correct me if I'm wrong.

As for brassman.  he's brassman.  Enough said.  one of the first major TMDers I met, and one of the nicest. 

[nataz]

carter: OMG becky, did you hear. I totally think that stevie is a meanie.
becky:  I know, i mean, MEANdeck, and like, totally look at his meanie avatar.
carter: yea, totally, thats like so true. Oh, shhush, here he comes now.

Steve: OMG YOU THINK I'M MEAN
becky: Na'uh
Steve, Yah'HUH
carter: BLACK HAT USER
Steve: POOP HEAD!

Nova: Na'uh


P.S.
I <3 myraid weekends
I really do <3 meandecks
and black hats are fun

P.P.S.
Don't be afraid Travis

[ErkBek]

I come across as not a nice guy?  I thought magic was a war of ideas and wits, not good versus evil.  My mistake.  How does whether I’m a nice guy or not matter one lick?  And why do you think I do not come across as a nice guy?  I think I’m a very nice guy. 

Your a nice guy steve, just look what you said about me.........

Eric, if you are tournament capable of playing this deck I have even more respect for you than I already have.  Your skills are great indeed. 

Eric's sb analysis looks great. 

Thanks. You da best.

Joking aside. You've drawn the fine line between slow play and combo math a number of times. Some people don't like you for it and consider it cheating. I'm on your side, I've had a 15 minute brainstorm as well.

You're the best know member of the vintage community in the world, people are going to have mixed opinions about you. 

[MoxMonkey]

I think that we should see what happens at Rochester before we say that Brassman's Gifts isn't that good. I would've changed my deck perference to something else too, but maybe he just likes the deck so much. I dunno. Shay's new list looks really good though, I really like the Repeals in the Rack and Ruin/ other metagame slots. I'd like to hear more about his deck than the unknown Gifts list. We can't even see the deck, so I can't even talk about it. All I know is that it has Repeal in it. I'm assuming that it runs just Colossus now?

The unknown Gifts list is mine if anyone really cares.  I gave Craig the list and he made Top 4 with it and then I asked him to withhold it so its not out before Rochester.  I'll release it after Rochester but don't ask for it anytime before.  Damn Team secrets. 

[AJFirst]

I'm on your side, I've had a 15 minute brainstorm as well.

Or a 15 minute Yawgmoth's Bargain  . Like I say, as long as you kick my ass effeciently and thoroughly afterwards, then take as long as you want. This goes to all combo players, and if someone says differently, then....I don't know, they suck I guess.
-AJ