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First of all, I would like to thank everyone who attended Dan’s Memorial Tournament on Saturday. A good time was had by all and by the end of the day we raised $2,365 for Dan’s trust fund. We had sixty four players battle it out for a prize pool that was really amazing. I would like to extend a heartfelt thank you to everyone who donated prizes for this event. They helped make the prize structure amazing. The following were donated: Black Lotus, Ancestral Recall, Mox Sapphire, Mox Jet, Mox Emerald (side event), Mox Pearl (side event), Beta Sol Ring, foil Chinese Inkwell Leviathan, FTV: Dragons, FBB Tolarian Academy, FBB Sol Ring, DCI Dark Ritual, DCI Yawgmoth’s Will, foil Gush, FBB Intuition, FBB Swords to Plowshares, foil Ponder, 4x DCI Call of the Herd, foil Chinese Echoing Truth, 3x German Helm of Obedience, FBB Sundering Titan, foil Necropotence, and a foil Empty the Warrens. For a tournament with such outstanding prize support and for such a great cause I had hoped for more players. I ask the vintage community; Where were you guys? Aside from work and other serious conflicts, isn’t it worth it to drive a few hours to play in a big vintage tournament? Hopefully we see some great attendance at the various events over the summer! LOOK AT YOUR CALENDAR AND SAVE THOSE DATES NOW! There are major events accessible to every region of the USA this summer, make sure you get out there and play! PICTURES!!!The Complete Metagame Breakdown:19x Tezzeret Decks (7x “Classic” Tez, 4x Bob-Remora Tez, 2x Slaver shell with Tez, 2x Ritual Tez, 1x Bob Tezzeret, 1x Goyf-Remora Tez) 6x Ichorid 5x Fish (various colors, UBW, UGW, UG, UBGW) 4x RGx Beats 3x Stax 3x The Perfect Storm 3x Elf-Ball 3x Oath of Druids 2x Ad Nauseam 2x BUG Aggro (1 Fish, 1 Gro) 2x Painter 2x Snake Pit 1x Aggro Workshop 1x Bomberman 1x Slaver 1x Drain Tendrils 1x Goblins 1x Metalworker Staff Combo 1x Suicide Black 1x The Mountains Win Again 1x Uba Stax 1x UR Landstill 1x Slaverless, Tezzeretless, Welder Control The standings after the swiss and Top 8 Metagame15 points: Brian Keil playing “Ashtray Tezz” (Control Slaver Shell) 15 points: Conor Moran playing Ichorid 15 points: Nick Detwiler playing “NYSE Stax” (5 Color Stax) 14 points: James Hangley playing “G/W Aggro” (5 Color Stax, ha ha funny deck name) 14 points: Mark Hornung playing “Next Level Ichorid” 14 points: Eric Markowicz playing “Goyfmora” (Tezzeret with you guessed it, goyfs and remoras) 14 points: Josh Wiglusz playing “Red Green Black Beats” 13 points: Paul Mastriano playing “Confidant Tezzeret” (Tezzeret with no remoras) Top 8 Pairings and Results:Paul Mastriano (Tez) defeated Brian Keil (Tez) 2-0 James Hangley (5C Stax) defeated Mark Hornung (Ichorid) 2-1 Nick Detwiler (5C Stax) defeated Eric Markowicz (Tez) 2-0 Conor Moran (Ichorid) defeated Josh Wiglusz (RGb Beats) 2-0 Top 4:Paul Mastriano (Tez) defeated James Hangley (5C Stax) 2-0 Nick Detwiler (5C Stax) defeated Conor Moran (Ichorid) 2-1 And in the Finals:Nick Detwiler (5C Stax) defeated Paul Mastriano (Tez) 2-1 This was a great rematch of the last tournament I ran (5/9/09, 55 players) where these two met in the finals! Great job guys! The Top 8 Decklists:1st Place: Nick Detwiler1x Ancestral Recall 1x Tinker 1x Vampiric Tutor 1x Demonic Tutor 4x Goblin Welder 2x Gorilla Shaman 1x Crop Rotation 1x Black Lotus 1x Mana Crypt 5x Moxen 1x Mana Vault 1x Sol Ring 2x Powder Keg 4x Thorn of Amethyst 3x Crucible of Worlds 4x Tangle Wire 1x Trinisphere 4x Smokestack 1x Karn, Silver Golem 1x Triskelion 1x Sundering Titan 1x Barbarian Ring 1x Bazaar of Baghdad 1x Strip Mine 1x Tolarian Academy 3x Gemstone Mine 4x City of Brass 4x Mishra’s Workshop 4x Wasteland SIDEBOARD: 1x Balance 1x Darkblast 4x Leyline of the Void 3x REB 3x Chalice of the Void 2x Pithing Needle 1x Relic of Progenitus 2nd Place: Paul Mastriano3x Flooded strand 4x Polluted Delta 4x Underground Sea 2x Island 1x Tolarian Academy 5x Moxen 1x Lotus Petal 1x Black Lotus 1x Mana Crypt 1x Sol Ring 1x Mana Vault 3x Mana Drain 4x Force of Will 4x Dark Confidant 3x Duress 3x Thirst for Knowledge 1x Demonic Tutor 1x Tinker 1x Mystical Tutor 1x Inkwell Leviathan 1x Imperial Seal 1x Yawgmoth’s Will 1x Thoughtseize 1x Time Walk 1x Brainstorm 1x Ancestral Recall 1x Sensei’s Divining Top 1x Gifts Ungiven 1x Vampiric Tutor 1x Fact or Fiction 1x Tezzeret 1x Time Vault 1x Voltaic Key 1x Merchant Scroll 1x Hurkyl’s Recall SIDEBOARD: 3x Yixlid Jailer 2x Pithing Needle 2x Threads of Disloyalty 1x Island 1x Rebuild 1x Slaughter Pact 1x Darkblast 1x Smother 1x Trinisphere 1x Tormod’s Crypt 1x Hurkyl’s Recall 3rd Place: Conor Moran4x Bazaar of Baghdad 4x Gemstone Mine 1x City of Brass 1x Mox Sapphire 1x Black Lotus 1x Lion’s eye diamond 4x Leyline of the Void 4x Chalice of the Void 4x Serum Powder 4x Golgari Grave-Troll 4x Stinkweed Imp 3x Golgari Thug 3x Fatestitcher 4x Bridge from Below 4x Cabal Therapy 3x Ichorid 3x Dread Return 1x Flame-Kin Zealot 4x Narcomoeba 2x Cephalid Sage 1x Sadistic Hypnotist SIDEBOARD: 3x Chain of Vapor 3x Contagion 4x Emerald Charm 4x Ingot Chewer 1x Ancestor’s Chosen 4th Place: James Hangley1x Crop Rotation 1x Trinisphere 1x Pithing Needle 1x Mox Sapphire 1x Ancient Tomb 1x Tolarian Academy 1x Sol ring 1x triskelion 1x Barbarian Ring 1x vampiric tutor 1x tinker 1x mox emerald 1x memory jar 1x mana vault 1x strip mine 1x inkwell leviathan 1x demonic tutor 1x mox pearl 1x mox jet 1x mox ruby 1x bazaar of Baghdad 1x mana crypt 1x black lotus 1x sundering titan 4x goblin welder 2x powder keg 4x tangle wire 3x smokestack 2x gorilla shaman 3x gemstone mine 4x wasteland 4x city of brass 4x mishra’s workshop 2x crucible of worlds 4x sphere of resistance SIDEBOARD: 1x tormod’s crypt 2x relic of progenitus 1x platinum angel 2x choke 2x null rod 1x balance 3x REB 3x chalice of the void 5th-8th: Brian Keil4x FOW 4x Mana Drain 4x Thirst for Knowledge 1x brainstorm 1x ponder 1x ancestral recall 1x time walk 1x misdirection 1x fact or fiction 1x yawgmoth’s will 1x pyroblast 1x hurkyl’s recall 1x demonic tutor 1x vampiric tutor 1x mystical tutor 1x merchant scroll 1x intuition 1x gifts ungiven 1x tezzeret 1x tinker 2x goblin welder 1x gorilla shaman 1x sundering titan 1x black lotus 5x moxen 1x sol ring 1x mana vault 1x mana crypt 1x lotus petal 1x voltaic key 1x time vault 1x sensei’s divining top 3x flooded strand 2x polluted delta 2x island 1x tolarian academy 2x underground sea 3x volcanic island 1x library of Alexandria SIDEBOARD: 3x annul 1x REB 1x trinisphere 1x tormod’s crypt 2x yixlid jailer 1x pithing needle 1x rack and ruin 1x engineered explosives 1x darkblast 1x inkwell leviathan 2x sower of temptation 5th-8th: Josh Wiglusz3x badlands 1x strip mine 2x wasteland 1x mountain 1x swamp 1x forest 1x taiga 1x bayou 3x bloodstained mire 3x wooded foothills 1x black lotus 1x mox jet 1x mox ruby 1x mox emerald 2x diabolic edict 3x duress 3x thoughtseize 2x pyroblast 2x REB 3x magus of the moon 3x grim lavamancer 3x gorilla shaman 3x mogg fanatic 2x pihing needle 4x null rod 4x tarmogoyf 4x dark confidant 1x krosan grip SIDEBOARD 3x krosan grip 1x gorilla shaman 2x pithing needle 1x magus of the moon 4x yixlid jailer 3x smother 1x diabolic edict 5th-8th: Eric Markowicz1x inkwell leviathan 3x tarmogoyf 4x force of will 4x mana drain 4x thirst for knowledge 3x mystic remora 2x duress 2x thoughtseize 1x tezzeret 1x rebuild 1x voltaic key 1x mystical tutor 1x vampiric tutor 1x yawgmoth’s will 1x ancestral recall 1x demonic tutor 1x time walk 1x brainstorm 1x sensei’s divining top 1x tinker 1x time walk 1x black lotus 5x moxen 1x mana vault 1x mana crypt 1x sol ring 3x polluted delta 2x flooded strand 3x tropical island 3x underground sea 2x island 1x library of Alexandria 1x tolarian academy SIDEBOARD 3x extirpate 1x tormod’s crypt 1x relic of progenitus 1x pithing needle 1x trinisphere 1x darkblast 1x smother 1x massacre 1x engineered explosives 1x krosan grip 1x hurkyl’s recall 1x trygon predator 1x oxidize 5th-8th: mark Hornung4x bridge from below 4x golgari grave troll 4x golgari thug 3x unmask 4x sinkwee imp 4x serum powder 4x chalice of the void 3x dread return 3x dryad arbor 2x tropical island 4x leyline of the void 4x bazaar of Baghdad 4x cabal therapy 4x narcomoeba 3x windswept heath 3x ichorid 3x sadistic hypnotist SIDEBOARD: 3x reverent silence 3x oxidize 4x chain of vapor 2x contagion 1x tropical island 1x windswept heath 1x angel of despair SIDE EVENTS:We had 16 people play for a Mox Emerald in our single elimination side event. Brian Carey playing Mono Red Workshop Aggro and Rob Edwards playing Tez prize split in the finals. They played for bragging rights and Rob won in three games. Great job guys!! We had 8 people rotisserie-draft my Collector's Edition Set, and I got ALOT of positive feedback on the event. My friend Richie, who helped log picks for the draft, will be writing his own report including COMPLETE pick order! I also heard that this event motivated some article writing, to be seen in the near future! It really is a fun format, and it's a great way to revisit the nostalgia of the old days. Mahamoti beating down is truly a monster once again! I errata'ed ante to read "remove the top card of your library from the game". Chaos Orb works as defined, as in flipping some cardboard through the air! It goes by the old 5 color "thumbtack through the center of every card as soon as chaos orb enters a public zone" rule. As a sneak preview, here is the first round of picks (save any discussion about pick order for the report to be posted soon by Rich): 1st pick: Contract from Below 2nd pick: Ancestral Recall 3rd pick: Time Walk 4th pick: Royal Assasin 5th pick: Wheel of Fortune 6th pick: Earthquake 7th pick: Sol Ring 8th pick: Terror Thanks again for everyone who attended! -Nick Coss
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2009, 03:17:52 pm » |
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Good times nick! This was an awesome event and thank u everyone that came to this and supported dan and his family he was a great player and will always be remembered. i went 4-2 in this event and got 13th place playing oath. Breakers were bad due to James Hangley crushing my face in round 1 game 3. I had to win my last round but lost to dredge! Good games tho. So only walked out with a fbb sol ring. Not bad for a 13th place prize lol. Thanks again nick and for everyone that donated!
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2009, 03:37:57 pm » |
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Even though I was sick, this was still a kick ass day of gaming. I probably should have shuffled more personally, but my mind was definitely not in the gaming. The rotisserie draft was amazingly fun! If you plan on doing in again, you can count me in (as long as I don't have a job that weekend.) Hell, I was surprised my deck did as well as it did, as I know I messed up a lot. But that is for a different thread.
Congrats to my friend Mark Hournang, for making his first top 8 after a whole month of discussing viable options to play in Ichorid. And yes, those Windswept Heaths were insane. Can't wait to start testing your version. Oh, and congrats to Eric for making another top 8 and losing in style. How many is that now? 4 in a row?
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2009, 03:44:34 pm » |
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Looks like this was an amazing event. Thanks for posting the TO report so quickly, particularly one that is so thorough.
Edit: Oh and the pictures are up quickly too. Great job.
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2009, 04:21:06 pm » |
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Heres my report. This is all off memory so sorry if i forget some things.
Round 1 James Hangley playing 5c stacks
Game 1...... He plays lots of cards while smashing my face then gets memory jar and plays it and passes the turn i have no force obv. My hand is ok but not good enough to beat his. I pass turn. On his upkeep he cracks jar and draws for turn. Plays tons of good cards and i loose.
Game 2...... A couple of oxidizes and a oath gets there.
Game 3..... I have to mull to 5 which i end up doing alot this day. He keeps his 7 and plays. He goes turn 1 chalice at 2 and i have no force! Awesome. Then his turn 2 is a smokestack and Turn 3 titan when i have 1 land out which is my island. GG
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Round 2 i think his name is Dom? sorry playing Ritual tezz with goyfs
Game 1......He wins die roll and plays. He mulls to 6 and i keep my 7 cards. He goes turn 1 swamp emerald goyf. Very nice! lol. i play oath and its all over from there.
Game 2..... I keep my 7 and play a turn 1 null rod followed by a turn 1 oath. A couple turns later i get orchard and oath up inkwell and he needs to topdeck hurkyl's or its game. He doesnt and i win
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Round 3 i play against my friend Pat Hixson playing a deck like grow with that new lordscale guy.
Game 1..... I loose die roll once again and have to mull to 5. He just plays lots of creatures and i loose.
Game 2..... I play a turn 1 chalice at 1 and chalice at 0. This is a long game. I get oath out eventually but cant find a orchard for a long time. He is just sitting on land cuase of chalice at 1 and 0. When i finally topdeck my orchard i pass turn and he topdecks his one of krosan grip Awesome! He makes the mistake by not playing his goyf in his hand after he grips my oath. He could have raced me with all his creatures but didnt play them and i play oath again and oath up archangel follwed by Hellkite and win.
Game 3..... He doesnt get anything really good and i find my oath with orchard and win
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Round 4 is Sean Lind playing Fish
Game 1........ He plays Meddling mage on my oath and then plays creature after creature i have no chance.
Game 2......... His hand is ok but mine is better i get out early Oath with orchard and win easily.
Game 3.........He Duresses me turn 1 and takes my oath. He plays a bob and draws a couple cards off that. But i play 2 impulses eot 2 turns in a row and find my orchard and a Oath and its all over
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Round 5 is Josh Scarbrough playing mono red shops
Game 1.... He gets out an early Razormane masticore and i cant find oath so i loose
Game 2..... I play and early Oath and have 2 oxidize in my hand. He plays Smokestack 2 turns in a row and i oxidize them both eot. I Oath out Hellkite and swing and pass turn and he topdecks duplicant removing my hellkite from the game. But i Oath up another guy then topdeck Demonic tutor which gets me my last oxidize getting rid of duplicant and i win.
Game 3.... My opening 7 is pretty solid its.....Lotus, ruby, jet, island, force, blue card, oath. He plays a turn 1 sphere and passes the turn. I Let it resolve because i still have a turn 1 oath because of my lotus. I play island and tap to cast lotus. I sack lotus for green and play my oath and pass. Next couple turns i play my moxen and i waste his workshop trying to slow him down just incase he gets something good off the top. I get orchard eventually and proceed to win
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Round 6 Connor playing dredge
Game 1..... U know what happens with dredge game 1. I get smoked had no chance.
Game 2.... He mulls to 1 but gets bazzar. I play turn 1 orchard and pass. He goes and plays bazzar and activates. i Eot vamp for Jailer which shouldn't be in Oath cause i am a retard. I eventually find oath and get archangel he scoops
Game 3.... He keeps his 7 and i have to mull to 4. He plays turn bazzar and does some dredging. I play waste and waste his bazzar. On his turn he dredges and gets a couple zombies. He makes me discard my 2 oaths in my hand with that hypnosist guy however u spell it and my hand is empty. Eventually i get an oath out but on my turn i oath out a jailer which did save me cause i was at 8 life when he had 3 zombies out. If i didn't oath up jailer i would have lost that turn. He goes and swings puts me to 2. This is the game decider if i oath up archangel i win and i am in top 8. Of course not i oath up inkwell and i loose cause i am at 2 and he has 3 attackers to my 2 blockers.
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Overall the deck was good but i had to mull alot due to really bad hands with creatures or no land. But good games everyone and sorry again if my report isnt 100 percent. Remember this is all off memory. So i take 13th place and win a fbb sol ring which isnt bad at all for a 13 prize thanks to all the people that donated. Thanks again for coming and supporting dan and his family and hope to see u at the next one. Changes i will make for next time is taking out jailers cuase they are obv not very good in oath lol oops
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2009, 04:32:38 pm » |
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If there were 65 players, why did you only play 6 rounds of swiss?
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2009, 04:49:09 pm » |
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We had sixty four players battle it out for a prize pool that was really amazing.
We had sixty four players, so while it fell right on the dot, the appropriate number of rounds is six. While looking at the decklists, i noticed I listed sixty five players represented. One of the decklists from the side event probably made it's way into the main event pile. Oops! -Nick
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2009, 06:36:18 pm » |
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Congrads Nick, you are on a tear of never ending top 8s!
Also congrads to Paul and everyone else in the top 8
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2009, 06:51:22 pm » |
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Top 8 Pairings and Results: Paul Mastriano (Tez) defeated Brian Keil (Tez) 2-0 James Hangley (5C Stax) defeated Mark Hornung (Ichorid) 2-1 Nick Detwiler (5C Stax) defeated Eric Markowicz (Tez) 2-0 Conor Moran (Ichorid) defeated Josh Wiglusz (RGb Beats) 2-0
Top 4: Paul Mastriano (Tez) defeated James Hangley (5C Stax) 2-0 Nick Detwiler (5C Stax) defeated Conor Moran (Ichorid) 2-1
And in the Finals: Nick Detwiler (5C Stax) defeated Paul Mastriano (Tez) 2-1 James's deck doesn't SEEM to be all that geared up against Ichorid. Did the Ichorid deck just killl itself? Congrats on a great top 8 and to Shop players for dominating!
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2009, 09:17:33 pm » |
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2009, 09:50:38 pm » |
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Amazing event, congrats to all else who made top 8, damn you conor! Great event, Dan was my best friend, hopefully he would of been proud. Allthough I agree nick, the turnout seemed alot smaller then I thought and hoped it would of been.
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2009, 10:05:44 pm » |
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Top 8 Pairings and Results: Paul Mastriano (Tez) defeated Brian Keil (Tez) 2-0 James Hangley (5C Stax) defeated Mark Hornung (Ichorid) 2-1 Nick Detwiler (5C Stax) defeated Eric Markowicz (Tez) 2-0 Conor Moran (Ichorid) defeated Josh Wiglusz (RGb Beats) 2-0
Top 4: Paul Mastriano (Tez) defeated James Hangley (5C Stax) 2-0 Nick Detwiler (5C Stax) defeated Conor Moran (Ichorid) 2-1
And in the Finals: Nick Detwiler (5C Stax) defeated Paul Mastriano (Tez) 2-1 James's deck doesn't SEEM to be all that geared up against Ichorid. Did the Ichorid deck just killl itself? Congrats on a great top 8 and to Shop players for dominating! Mark Hornung here, second tournament ever in vintage.......anyway what happened in this match up is I went stupid game one, Game two he hit an early wasteland followed by a sphere and then a Trinisphere, with a relic shortly after before i could find anything to salvage the game.....Game three he showed me his hand as i had to mull to 3 or 2 for a bazaar and it consisted of a wasteland, sphere, and double relic, so that is pretty good vs ichorid I hear.........
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2009, 10:54:43 pm » |
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Beta rotisserie Draft The picks John-first pick Contract From below Jugurnaught Shivan dragon Demonic horde Dragon whelp Beserk Fork Animate dead Word of command Howl from beyond The hive Channel Earth elemental Rod of ruin Disrupting scepter Frozen shade Hill giant Taiga Bayou Dwarven demolition team Weakness Bog wraith Fear Cyclopian tomb Earthbind Stream of life Fog Burrowing Wanderlust Library of leng Glasses of urza Kudzu Dingus egg Cursed land Demonic attorney
Fred Chang-second pick Ancestral recall Nevinyrral's disk Wrath of god Counterspell Serra angel Water elemental Power sink Jade statue Phantom moster Jayemdae Tome Mox pearl Copy artifact Tundra Wall of swords Wall of water Northern paladin Circle of protection: red Obsianus Golem Clockwork beast Resurrection Basalt monolith Samite healer Veteran bodyguards Mesa pegasus Personal incarnation Blessing Conversion Righteousness Conservator Island sanctuary Castle Animate wall Drain power Plague rats Wooden sphere Death lace (last pick of the draft)
Walt-third pick Time walk Chaos orb Balance armagedon Swords to plowshares White knight Lightning bolt Savanah lions Meekstone Hurricane Elvish archers Disenchant Ankh of mishra Grizzly bears Giant growth War mammoth Ice storm Holy strength Tsunami Savanah Pearl unicorn Crusade Timber wolves Tundra Tunnel Benalish hero Natural selection Psycic venom Red ward Black ward Twiddle Lance Blaze of glory Crystal rod Feedback White ward
Joe-fourth pick Royal assasin Icy manipulator Demonic tutor Sengir vampire Will-o'-the-Wisp Cockatrice Regrowth Pestilence Craw wurm Regeneration Thicket Basilisk Lure Black vise Force of nature Llanowar elves Gaea's liege Giant spider Helm of chatzuk Circle of protection: green Wall of ice Fungusour Fastbond Ironwood treefolk Aspect of the wolf Illusionary mask Circle of protection: black Disability Tranquility Green ward Jade monolith Camouflage Ley druid Ivory cup Throne of bone Sirens call Dark pact
Doug conway-5th pick Wheel of furtune Timw twister Mahamoti djinn Control magic Air elemental Forcefield Manavault Orchish artillery Rock of kher ridges Mox saphire Mox ruby Granite gargoyle Phantom forces Stone giant Gauntlet of might Steal artifact Iron orcs Unsummon Goblin king Volcanic island Goblin ballon brigade Mons goblin raiders Grey ogre Orcish oriflame Volcanic eruption Powersurge Magical hack Sea serphant Sunglasses of urza Reverse damage Healing salve Guardian angel Holy armor Iron star Power leak Blue ward
Chris-6th pick Earthquake Fireball disintegrate Psionic blast Vesuvan doppleganger Clone Rock hydra Prodigal Sorcerer Keldon warlord Braingeyser Pirate ship Fire elemental Spell blast Wall of air Shatter Hurly minitor Blue elemental blast Wall of fire Lord of atlantis Lifetap Red elemental blast Manashort Wall of stone Raging river Mana flare Merfolk of the pearl trident Sleight of mind False orders Circle of protection: blue Kormus bell Flight Phantasmal terrain Death ward Soul net Jump Thoughtlace
Steve-7th pick Sol ring Black lotus Mind twist Time vault Birds of paradise Lord of the pit Dredge skeleton Dark ritual Distill energy Animate artifact Mox jet Mox emerald Life force Wall of bones Wall of bramble Tropical island Underground river Zombie master Scryb sprites Living wall Scavaging ghoul Living lands Death grip Web Sky dryad Stasis Howling mine Wild growth Verduran enchantress Wall of wood Living artifact Lich Lifeforce Celestial prism Purelace Creaturebond
Dom-last pick Terror Hypnotic specter Nightmare Bad moon Nether shadow Winter orb Black night Sedge troll Uthden troll Unholy strength Two headed giant Drain life Copper tablet Paralize Sinkhole Stone rain Dwarven warriors Simulacrum Badlands Karma Firebreathing Flashfires Scathe zombies Raise dead Mana barbs Chaos lace Sacrifice Smoke Warp artifact Gloom Circle of protection: red Scrubland Meddling imp Evil presence Concecrate land Farmstead
There are the picks, and in rotisserie draft whoever picks 8th picks 2 cards and send the picking order back around. so 1st-7th pick 1 card, 8th picks 2, then its up to 7th to pick again and so on. i believe everyones first pick of choice was going to be contract from below, and i 100% agree with the recall folowing it, however i do not believe that time walk was the way to go for the 3rd pick. it is known how good walk can be, but i would hate to see the card in any opening hand. when its not played later in the game with a few creatures in play, it usualy reads as 1U untap your lands draw a card and play a land. With that said, i would have liked to see something along the lines of nev's disk or even sol ring before walk. Disk obviosly doesn't put you into and colors and in 3rd position he knew that John was in black, Fred chang was in blue, and by taking the disk he would also see every single other persons colors before having to dedicate to his own.
Now people may not agree with me on talking sol ring so early, however while looking at the table it was apparent that most of the relevant spells were 4-5 mana. this means that when you have sol ring in your opening hand, any land allows it to be played and you could leave your opponent 2-3 turns behind the entire game. After walt was joe, i think that joe suprised everyone with a 1st pick royal assasin. i dont think that anyone at the table read those 10th edition tips and tricks insert cards though because the remaining players allowed the icy manipulator to come back and gave joe an easy 2 card combo. In joes next few picks it was easy for me to see that he had some idea of a plan and he was executing it. with demonic tutor following so he could search for the missing peice of the said combo and sengir vampire and will o the wisp to hold off attackers from getting to his life along with another 2 card combo in the form of thicket basilisk and lure. which so happends to be on another tips and tricks card, i think he may have studied them.
In the fifth seat doug conway to a 1st pick wheel of fortune along with a second pick time twister. this auto put up a red flag in my eyes for some sort of combo deck, but i did not know what. i started walking through the things he could have taken next, would it be a huge creature like liege of the pit along with ressurection so he could wheel away the big guy and bring him back cheaply and early enought that his opponent could not come back. maybe he was going to take the howling mine and mill his oponent to death, or he could have taken the mana drain and dark ritual so that when he played the twister or wheel he could have a bunch of mana floating. turned out he just wanted to take every flying or big creature he could get his hands on and bash in the draw a new hand late game to play some more. this acctualy makes sense to take every creature that is just better than your oppenents will be so that when he wheels his opponent draws some bad creatures while every creature card in his hand is pure gas.
the 6th seat in the draft was chris. his 1st pick earthquake was a reasonable enought pick, but his second pick fireball and third pick disintegrate made him the man to be beat in my eyes. he had a plan he executed it. take every good x spell he could. however i then expected to see either the channel go, the mana flare, or what i would have put money on going next, gaunlet of might. seriously how did he not take the mono red self mana flare with this insane mono red deck, but he did what he did so lets move on with waht he did take, psi blast followed by both cloneing creatures in the pool. i believe the clones are not very good in this format because there really are not very many bomb creatures in the set. he ended up getting the mana flare, but i believe that was pure luck that his opponents did not take it from him.
7th pick was steve who was in my opinion blessed with a 1st pick sol ring, but then he followed it with black lotus which is questionable. that is until he takes mind twist. you have to look at those series of cards in this way, turn one he could play his lotus, the dark rit he got later, sol ring, land for the turn and twist for 6, on the draw bam thats the hand gg, on the play lets get serious its gg anyway. time vault was given to him 4th which apparently he was the only one to see the potential of vault, instill energy and animate artifact. sitting behind these serious of plays already in his hands he proceded to take walls and dumbys to try and ensure his combo will get there every round.
last pick was dom. i think that last pick is acctualy the best. you get 2 cards at one and you lock up your deck colors right then. it is also going to send clear signals which he did in the form of black. with his first 2 picks being terror and hypnotic specter he was saying stay out of black or pay for it because im taking every black card i can. his next about 6 picks were all very good for him, nightmare and bad moon are amazing in mono black to say the least. but then he got some sort of idea to be a land destruction deck when he took sinkhole and stone rain, but i dont think he realized those are indeed the only land destruction spells in the entire set. after looking at him to be the man to beat i soon realized he was not when he started taking bad red cards and leaving cards that are nuts in his deck such as the kormus bell. i mean come on in a format where there are only 2 sweepers, how is playing the bell not a beating. i mean even if he plays it around turn6-7 and he already has 4-5 guys in play. he just untapps and bashs. i lost all faith in him when he was taking cards that would never make the cut and the bell was taken by someone else only because there was around 20 cards left in the whole pool.
all in all, this format was fun to think about and fun to talk about. i hope that this event gets other people into bringing a complete set of cards to any tornament to have a fun side draft with some friends because i know id love to play.
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Walt-third pick Time walk Chaos orb Balance armagedon Swords to plowshares White knight Lightning bolt Savanah lions Meekstone Hurricane Elvish archers Disenchant Ankh of mishra Grizzly bears Giant growth War mammoth Ice storm Holy strength Tsunami Savanah Pearl unicorn Crusade Timber wolves Savannah not Tundra Tunnel Benalish hero Natural selection Psycic venom Red ward Black ward Twiddle Lance Blaze of glory Crystal rod Feedback White ward
There are the picks, and in rotisserie draft whoever picks 8th picks 2 cards and send the picking order back around. so 1st-7th pick 1 card, 8th picks 2, then its up to 7th to pick again and so on. i believe everyones first pick of choice was going to be contract from below, and i 100% agree with the recall folowing it, however i do not believe that time walk was the way to go for the 3rd pick. it is known how good walk can be, but i would hate to see the card in any opening hand. when its not played later in the game with a few creatures in play, it usualy reads as 1U untap your lands draw a card and play a land. With that said, i would have liked to see something along the lines of nev's disk or even sol ring before walk. Disk obviosly doesn't put you into and colors and in 3rd position he knew that John was in black, Fred chang was in blue, and by taking the disk he would also see every single other persons colors before having to dedicate to his own.
To defend my pick, I honestly didn't think it was wrong. I know I made plenty of bad picks through-out the draft, but it was all with a certain idea in my head as well. From the beginning, I wanted to force white. I figured, going straight into a white/X aggro deck, I would be able to capitalize on the cards most people did not want. Taking Time Walk first insured me that I would have that late game final push into the red zone. That is the major reason why my next 3 picks (Chaos Orb, Armageddon, and Balance) were all cards that had a mass effect on the late game. Add to the fact that I was able to mise a late pick Meekstone and Hurricane, I was set to start taking 1 to 3 mana dorks. That is also why I took the Lightning Bolt when I did; so no one can mise a game off my small dorks. Of course, everyone started taking those same dorks around the same time I did. Figures, right lol. That is not to say my strategy didn't work. Balance housed Fred Chang after he depleted my first barage of small dorks. And I got to devastate Doug's board with the Chaos Orb (leaving him with nothing.) And that is not say that I would not change some of my picks too. Picking a colorless card (Chaos Orb would have been my choice over Nev's Disk anyway) would have definitely put me into a position to study what everyone else is taking. But needless to say, I still put up a damn good game against players who, in my opinion, probably drafted a better deck than I did. I beat Fred Chang round 1 on the back of Balance and Armageddon game 1, both allowing me force my small dudes. Game two, Balance and Tsunami let me clear out most of his hand board, giving me time to rebuild my team and take a few points from Fred with my Ankh. A Giant Growthed Grizzle Bear gave me the chance to burn his face with my splashed Lightning Bolt. (4 colors, I know! LOL) Round 2, Armageddon almost gave me the win after I Swords Doug's Goblin King, but he top decked 4 lands (2 Mountains, which had the bonus of a Gauntlet of Might in play) that let him cast a Mahamoti for the win. Game 2, I drew 7 lands in a row after going aggro with my Elvish Archers. We played a bonus game, which let me blow up his board with a Chaos Orb (which literally made my day.) Overall, yes, my picks could have been better. But I was happy winning one round with this pile lol.
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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2009, 01:51:27 am » |
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For being only my second vintage event ever (the first being Star City's Richmond 5k last year), I had an absolute blast and it seemed like a beautiful thing. Glad to see that Nick Detwiler took the whole thing, seeing as he schooled me in the 6th round in what we both considered a must-win match to make top 8. After seeing the top 8 lists, I think my inexperience would have kicked in to make for a glorious punt. Regardless I had an amazing time with an amazing group of players. You guys made a vintage player out of me after I saw the sheer skill involved in playing the format and the amount of support the community lends towards it's members. Look forward to seeing me more often, especially at the Blue Bell events.
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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2009, 02:44:31 am » |
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Chris here. I won the Rotisserie draft on the back of X-spells. I really had no plans on my way into the draft...my plan going into the tournament was to end up with a Lotus, but that didn't work out so Plan B happened. Only one red card had been taken before I went at sixth so I figured Earthquake housed a ton of stuff. The fireball on the rebound was nice and to my astonishment the disintegrate was there round three.
I knew I didnt want channel because I figured I'd end up spending 19 and getting it counterspelled or something :p. I actually just decided I would've rather taken cards that were awesome on their own, rather than needing to be combo'd. Gauntlets of Might was just a huge oversight. When someone else picked it I had one of those OH NOES! moments.
The two clones were spectacular for me. There's only like three or four creatures in the whole environment that they'd don't stall/trade with. Serra, Moti, Shivan, Force of Nature. it answers all of them. They each basically turn into the best guy on the board. I beat Joe round two by beating down with three fire elementals.
There were a few cards I thought went in weird places. I don;t really get twister and wheel going that early. They seem way too symmetrical to me. it's not like you have a set of jewelry to abuse whatever you draw. You basically get one or two spells and then your opponent gets a turn with all their resources and all their new cards. I guess it's nice as a way to mess with hands early but I'd rather just let my opponent do the dirty work and pick up some of the scant removal. Timetwister actually ended up costing my opponent in the finals the tournament as well. He had goblin king, mon's raiders, and the drake that pumps toughness. I had a few cards in hand he twister'd with 5 or six available. He played a sea monster and passed. My draw had mana flare, fireball, disintegrate. After the flare I had enough to burn the drake and goblin king, block the dorks, and untap to disintegrate for a pearl.
The tournament was really fun and I would definately play in more of these at future events.
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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2009, 06:05:25 am » |
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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2009, 07:29:08 am » |
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We had sixty four players battle it out for a prize pool that was really amazing.
We had sixty four players, so while it fell right on the dot, the appropriate number of rounds is six. While looking at the decklists, i noticed I listed sixty five players represented. One of the decklists from the side event probably made it's way into the main event pile. Oops! -Nick Probably mine since I switched decks for the side event. I played Snake Pit along with my friend Josh. I played horribly in my first round but still managed a win and shaped up my game somewhat for my second round (though I did still set myself up for a punt in game three) and pulled it out. Unfortunately I made a game losing mistake in game three of my third round and sideboarded incorrectly in my fourth round going to a nice 2-2 record. After that I decided to drop for the side tournament that was supposed to start at the beginning of round five (didn't start till round 6, making me wish I had played another round in the main event for shits and giggles). I played shop combo in the side event, which is where the 65th list came from and lost game one to seeing no lands after mulliganing twice and powdering 5 cards, finally keeping a hand with lotus and top and not seeing a land in the top 3 cards ... frown town. Game two I set up a turn two win with fat metal worker wearing a mantle. Game three I kept a hand with 2 routes to a turn two win. Too bad he had duress and thoughtsieze :/ He eventually won with vault key after draining a triskelevus O_O I had a lot of fun despite scrubbing out. Hopefully in august I'll remember to bring some playskill.
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2009, 09:43:27 am » |
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I had an awesome time, it was great to spend a full day in Philly playing cards with everybody. Another awesome tournament run by the one and only Nick Coss. The judging and staffing were awesome, thanks to Nick, Josh, and everyone else.
Thanks to all my opponents for great games and matches. There were some ridiculous situations you all put me in. Nothing quite like going 0-1 and then having to win every round you play.
And thanks to Paul for a great match, for not having the Force of Will, and for not dream crushing me twice in less than a month.
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2009, 12:33:57 pm » |
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And thanks to Paul for a great match, for not having the Force of Will, and for not dream crushing me twice in less than a month. You did put together my deck and apparently practiced pretty hard! If I had won it would have been like I killed the Karate Kid, lol. Really close, though. I needed to draw an artifact accelerant there and just couldn't get it in like 10 draws (although realistically I needed to hit it in the first few for it to have been really relevant). Anyways, "Mr. Detwiler" (lol) you're a worthy opponent. I guess that makes me up 2-1 against you lifetime now... I hope you're coming to the Steel City P9 and to Vintage Champs so we can continue our little rivalry. You know I'll be there. This was a really nice event and as usual well run. I wish I'd have known it so close to the cut off for 7 rounds as I almost ID'd out of the top 8 and my 6th round opponent did. Sorry about that, Jeff - at least you still got a beta Sol Ring which is pretty decent. I suppose I owe you one. Pictures were awesome. If you didn't look yet, do it! It was really awesome to see all the support for Dan and his family. Dan was a great guy, and his wife seemed really cool. He had so much life left to live. Thanks to everyone involved in this excellent event. And "Always let the Wookie win."
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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2009, 12:45:03 pm » |
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It says something about Vintage that same two players made the finals of 60+ person events a month apart. Nice work gentlemen.
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Eric's list has 2 Time Walks and no Time Vault
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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2009, 04:40:18 pm » |
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And thanks to Paul for a great match, for not having the Force of Will, and for not dream crushing me twice in less than a month. You did put together my deck and apparently practiced pretty hard! If I had won it would have been like I killed the Karate Kid, lol. Really close, though. I needed to draw an artifact accelerant there and just couldn't get it in like 10 draws (although realistically I needed to hit it in the first few for it to have been really relevant). Anyways, "Mr. Detwiler" (lol) you're a worthy opponent. I guess that makes me up 2-1 against you lifetime now... I hope you're coming to the Steel City P9 and to Vintage Champs so we can continue our little rivalry. You know I'll be there. This was a really nice event and as usual well run. I wish I'd have known it so close to the cut off for 7 rounds as I almost ID'd out of the top 8 and my 6th round opponent did. Sorry about that, Jeff - at least you still got a beta Sol Ring which is pretty decent. I suppose I owe you one. Pictures were awesome. If you didn't look yet, do it! It was really awesome to see all the support for Dan and his family. Dan was a great guy, and his wife seemed really cool. He had so much life left to live. Thanks to everyone involved in this excellent event. And "Always let the Wookie win." Well Mr. Mastriano as long as I'm the Karate Kid, and not Dr. Evil, we're alright. If I can make some of the events over the summer, I will. Not really sure if I can, it'll depend on my work schedule. I'm enjoying our little rivalry as well. Maybe next time I see you sitting across from me I can get to .500. Either way, I'm sure it'll be a fun match...
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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2009, 04:50:12 pm » |
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Top 8 Pairings and Results: Paul Mastriano (Tez) defeated Brian Keil (Tez) 2-0 James Hangley (5C Stax) defeated Mark Hornung (Ichorid) 2-1 Nick Detwiler (5C Stax) defeated Eric Markowicz (Tez) 2-0 Conor Moran (Ichorid) defeated Josh Wiglusz (RGb Beats) 2-0
Top 4: Paul Mastriano (Tez) defeated James Hangley (5C Stax) 2-0 Nick Detwiler (5C Stax) defeated Conor Moran (Ichorid) 2-1
And in the Finals: Nick Detwiler (5C Stax) defeated Paul Mastriano (Tez) 2-1 James's deck doesn't SEEM to be all that geared up against Ichorid. Did the Ichorid deck just killl itself? Congrats on a great top 8 and to Shop players for dominating! its a brutal game 1 but post board it gets better for me. i played ichorid twice in round 2 and in the top 8. I played enough of the match up to know what to do and what not to do... and a misplay in game 1 cost me not taking it in 2 i believe. Im currently writing a report and will explain in there nice win nick. great to see all our playtesting is paying off for both of us.
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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2009, 06:02:08 pm » |
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Thanks for a great event Nick!
I decided to run a RGB Beats deck I came up with mostly in my sleep. Seriously! I ended up finishing 4-2, good enough for 18th place and a FBB Swords for my effort. All in all not bad, especially considering I got paired up against Elias running Oath in round 1 and promptly got sent to the losers' bracket for round 2.
The Rotisserie Draft was a blast, and I wasn't even in it! Please, do run one again sometime. Doesn't necessarily have to be for a piece of power. Hell you can put up an Italian Legends Wood Elemental for 1st and I'll toss a few bucks in to play.
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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2009, 02:56:33 pm » |
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Its the fish deck that runs lorescale coatle and goyfs with rods and chalices.
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« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2009, 04:52:11 pm » |
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my performance in the event wasn't that good. i was pleased with how the pics came out. thanks to those who complimented them
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What the heck is snake pit?
This // Lands 3 Forest 4 Bazaar of Baghdad 1 Strip Mine 4 Tropical Island 4 Wasteland 3 Windswept Heath 2 Wooded Foothills // Creatures 3 Lorescale Coatl 4 Tarmogoyf 1 Darksteel Colossus // Spells 4 Accumulated Knowledge 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Brainstorm 3 Daze 4 Force of Will 2 Hurkyl's Recall 3 Life from the Loam 1 Time Walk 4 Chalice of the Void 4 Null Rod 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Tinker
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What the heck is snake pit?
This // Lands 3 Forest 4 Bazaar of Baghdad 1 Strip Mine 4 Tropical Island 4 Wasteland 3 Windswept Heath 2 Wooded Foothills // Creatures 3 Lorescale Coatl 4 Tarmogoyf 1 Darksteel Colossus // Spells 4 Accumulated Knowledge 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Brainstorm 3 Daze 4 Force of Will 2 Hurkyl's Recall 3 Life from the Loam 1 Time Walk 4 Chalice of the Void 4 Null Rod 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Tinker i beleive ive seen some people running wonder, windfall, and time twister so that the lorescale gets huge and it has evasion. and one of the guys playing it at the event ran Vedalken Heretic and rancor in it.
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