Myriad Games Vintage - August 9th, 2009

[Myriad Games]

Thank you to everyone who attended our latest Vintage event here at Myriad Games, Your Friendly Professional Game Store.

The Bonus Preregistration Prize went to Jeff Carpenter.

The Bonus Carpool Prize went to Ray Robillard.

The Best Deck Name Prize went to Jeff Carpenter for "Hooray for Peer Pressure!"

As always, if you have any comments or suggestions about our events, please email us.

Thank you to all 17 players who participated!

Tournament Results

Top 4 -- Michael French
Top 4 -- Oliver Beaumont
Top 4 -- Eric Dupuis
Top 4 -- Connor Cobean

5th -- Charlie Winger
6th -- Ray Robillard
7th -- Bill Copes
8th -- Kyle Del Paggio

9th -- Scott Hughes (Received a consolation prize for missing out on breakers)

For the full results including Top 16 decklists, please visit the Myriad Games Photo Album.

Thanks again to everyone for coming to this event.

The next events in our 2009 Vintage Tournament Series will be Saturday, September 12th and Saturday, October 17th.

Make plans now to come join in the fun!

[Nefarias]

Great idea scanning all the decklists; it must save a lot of time. Unfortunately, some of them are quite hard to read. Not sure if between your scanner and the host site there would be some way to fix that?

Also, Top 16 decklists at a 17 man tournament. Sucks to be "that guy."

[MagicIsCardboardCrack]

Also, Top 16 decklists at a 17 man tournament. Sucks to be "that guy."

Damn! You beat me to it! Thats what I was gonna say!

[MagicIsCardboardCrack]

Did I read that right? Did your [significant other] or daughter play and place 17th?

That would also make it "That Girl"

[Nefarias]

Did I read that right? Did your [significant other] or daughter play and place 17th?

That would also make it "That Girl"

Yeah, Sara's his wife.

Open mouth, insert foot

>_____>

[Yare]

Really great idea to scan in decklists. I would love to see this implemented in other TO reports.

Unfortunately, some of them are quite hard to read. Not sure if between your scanner and the host site there would be some way to fix that?

Zooming in using the button there fixed this for me. Though if you're complaining about legibility, I can't help you there.

[ashiXIII]

pretty much hate the scanning decklists idea. it might be a bit less work for the person doing it, but they're damn near impossible to read. The only 2 cards I can make out in Jeff Carpenters list are Forbidden Orchard and Xantid Swarm

[DubDub]

pretty much hate the scanning decklists idea. it might be a bit less work for the person doing it, but they're damn near impossible to read. The only 2 cards I can make out in Jeff Carpenters list are Forbidden Orchard and Xantid Swarm

I will speak up because it was my encouragement that got Dan to post scans at all.  It is a service to the community to do anything with the decklists.  Transcribing the lists is a time consuming and too often thankless job that I'm not surprised he didn't want to continue doing.  If you weren't saying 'thank you' previously I don't see how you can complain now.

The previous results thread (seen here: http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=38041.0) didn't have any top 8 decklists posted (except Jeff's and Rich's), so I talked to Dan and he agreed to post scans this time.

The scans really aren't that hard to read, except maybe the Goblins list... but it's Goblins, and Jeff's list, which is really more a piece of art.  Are you really looking for secret tech in a Five Color Lich's Mirror deck with Deja Vu in the sideboard?  I usually don't start with decks whose name include the phrase 'peer pressure'.

[Almighty]

pretty much hate the scanning decklists idea. it might be a bit less work for the person doing it, but they're damn near impossible to read. The only 2 cards I can make out in Jeff Carpenters list are Forbidden Orchard and Xantid Swarm

On a side note to this, imagine being a judge and having to sit through this. Scanning the lists serves the additional purpose of showing people the importance of writing lists neatly, or better yet, typing them out before hand.

Also, Jer: How did that singleton Enlightened Eggplant work out in your sideboard. :p

[policehq]

The scans really aren't that hard to read, except maybe the Goblins list... but it's Goblins, and Jeff's list, which is really more a piece of art.  Are you really looking for secret tech in a Five Color Lich's Mirror deck with Deja Vu in the sideboard?  I usually don't start with decks whose name include the phrase 'peer pressure'.

Well, the fact that it had 58 cards was kinda techy.

[Myriad Games]

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the scanned lists. This system is remarkably easier to implement, for many of the reasons pointed out by posters here. The zoomed versions in the photo album are actual size, so you're looking at what we're looking at in person, as far as legibility. We certainly encourage everyone to print out their lists and/or write them more neatly to allow for better flow of information. Using this system will allow us to continue to post decklists, and will allow us to post more than just the Top 8.

[Harlequin]

The scans really aren't that hard to read, except maybe the Goblins list... but it's Goblins, and Jeff's list, which is really more a piece of art.  Are you really looking for secret tech in a Five Color Lich's Mirror deck with Deja Vu in the sideboard?  I usually don't start with decks whose name include the phrase 'peer pressure'.

Well, the fact that it had 58 cards was kinda techy.

The missing cards were Brainstorm and Ponder - which I actaully told Dan were missing from the list about 15 seconds after I handed it in.

Its actually very odd how I ended up playing that deck in the first place.  I was only going to play Mirror Combo if there were 16 players or less, and there were 17.  Everyone wanted to see me play mirror combo - and Scott said he would drop from the event to force me to play it.  So I decided to play it.  I had to scratch it down quickly.  I had Ray count my list and he told me I was missing 2 cards.  I realized they were brainstorm and ponder - but in the commotion of changing sleaves, and taking cards out of my real deck - I forgot to write them in.  Before pairings went up, I told Dan that I was missing those two cards on my list and that I needed to write them in... but then things started and what not. 

Anyway, the deck did horribly. And it was by all accounts - awful.   On top of that I didn't play against ONE control player so my Xantid Swarm tech got boarded out EVERY GAME!  /sadface.

Also for the record, I had a completely built and clearly written deck list for staxless stax that I was going to play up until 15 mins before decks were due.  Thus the Peer Pressure list. 
Oh and BTW Deja vu is sweet tech - considering if Channel doesn't resolve, you basically scoop if you can't get it outa the yard.  Recoup is when I don't have lots of mana, and Deja vu was for when I have plenty of mana. 

[Myriad Games]

Thanks for the clarification, Jeff. I jotted the note about Brainstorm and Ponder into the spreadsheet for the event, but did not update them on the physical list, so that clears up that mystery.

[Tobi]

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the scanned lists. This system is remarkably easier to implement, for many of the reasons pointed out by posters here. The zoomed versions in the photo album are actual size, so you're looking at what we're looking at in person, as far as legibility. We certainly encourage everyone to print out their lists and/or write them more neatly to allow for better flow of information. Using this system will allow us to continue to post decklists, and will allow us to post more than just the Top 8.

I see the fact that it saves time for the tournament organizer. Being one myself I know the amount of work this produces.
However, this way the lists cannot be uploaded into morphling or other top 8 list databases, making statistics impossible. It is also harder to get a quick overview of the lists since you need to click through all of the pictures and to read handwritten lists.

Maybe there is some way to find a person who is willing to type up the lists next time.

[Myriad Games]

That's one of the nice things about this system. It gets more information from the event out there faster, and allows diligent souls to type up the lists if they're so inclined.

[MagicIsCardboardCrack]

That's one of the nice things about this system. It gets more information from the event out there faster, and allows diligent souls to type up the lists if they're so inclined.

+1

I agree with you on all your points, so far, Dan. Also, I had no problems reading any of the lists. I think the fact that you're out there running tournaments should be enough. You shouldn't have to do things someone else's way, just because there happens to be a website out there that copy/pastes deck lists. Yes I've used the site before, way back when even. So I know it's a great resource. I think morphling has enough followers, if enough people care that much, that someone can type it themselves. It should never be required of a TO to list deck list in a specific manner. I, for one, think the fact that he posts the deck lists is a service to us all already, and that we should be grateful he posts them in whichever manner is at his convenience.

Any luck with your Gencon stuff, Dan?

[Myriad Games]

Thanks for the feedback. We're still awaiting word back from security and police in Indianapolis about the theft, but we've filed all the necessary reports and done all we can at this point. If anyone would like details, please feel free to contact me via PM.

[Tobi]

It should never be required of a TO to list deck list in a specific manner. I, for one, think the fact that he posts the deck lists is a service to us all already, and that we should be grateful he posts them in whichever manner is at his convenience.

Agree.

So I shout to the vintage community and ask, is there someone willing to type up the decklists so they can be uploaded into morphling?

[Bill Copes]

Here's mine:

Bill Copes

4 Mishra's Workshop
4 City of Brass
3 Wasteland
3 Gemstone Mine
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Barbarian Ring
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt

4 Smokestack
4 Tangle Wire
4 Thorn of Amethyst
3 Null Rod
3 Crucible of Worlds
1 Trinisphere

1 Karn, Silver Golem

4 Goblin Welder
2 Gorilla Shaman
1 Aven Mindcensor

1 Ancestral Recall
1 Choke
1 Darkblast
1 Timewalk
1 Tinker
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Crop Rotation
1 Ancient Grudge

SB:
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 Tormody's Crypt
2 Triskelion
2 Pyroclasm
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Balance
1 Ingot Chewer
1 Choke
1 Rule of Law

[Doomsday]

I need to leave work right now so I can't finish but here are the first five shown on the photo album:

Michael French
4 Cold-Eyed Selkie
4 Qasali Pridemage
4 Meddling Mage
3 Tarmogoyf
4 Noble Hierarch
2 Aven Mindcensor
4 Stifle
4 Null Rod
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Brainstorm
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
3 Daze
4 Force of Will
1 Black Lotus
3 Tropical Island
3 Tundra
1 Island
4 Wasteland
3 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
1 Strip Mine
S/B
4 Wheel of Sun and Moon
3 Swords to Plowshares
3 Trygon Predator
3 Children of Korlis
2 Umezawa’s Jitte


Oliver Beaumont
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
4 Duress
4 Night’s Whisper
1 Regrowth
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Ponder
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Tezzeret the Seeker
1 Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Inkwell Leviathan
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Brainstorm
1 Sensei’s Divining Top
5 Island
4 Flooded Strand
3 Underground Sea
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Library of Alexandria
2 Tropical Island
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
S/B
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Smother
1 Yixlid Jailer
1 Darkblast
1 Leyline of the Void
1 Trinisphere
1 Tormod’s Crypt
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Pithing Needle
4 Oath of Druids
1 Gaea’s Blessing
1 Empyrial Archangel


Eric Dupuis
3 Island
3 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand
4 Underground Sea
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
4 Dark Confidant
1 Tezzeret the Seeker
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Tinker
1 Sensei’s Divining Top
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ponder
1 Repeal
1 Time Vault
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Duress
4 Force of Will
1 Merchant Scroll
4 Mana Drain
1 Voltaic Key
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Vendilion Clique
S/B
2 Hurkyl’s Recall
2 Tormod’s Crypt
2 Sower of Temptation
2 Yixlid Jailer
4 Dark Ritual
1 Island


Connor Cobean
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Qasali Pridemage
4 Vexing Shusher
3 Gaddock Teeg
3 Elvish Spirit Guide
2 Kataki, War’s Wage
4 Aven Mindcensor
2 Ethersworn Canonist
3 Choke
4 Null Rod
1 Seal of Primordium
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
4 Savannah
4 Flooded Strand
4 Windswept Heath
3 Plains
2 Forest
1 Enlightened Tutor
S/B
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Tarrif
3 Relic of Progenitus
2 Wheel of Sun and Moon
1 Aura of Silence
2 Pithing Needle

Charlie Winger
3 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Strand
4 Underground Sea
1 Snow-Covered Island
2 Island
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Tezzeret the Seeker
4 Force of Will
1 Misdirection
4 Mana Drain
1 Brainstorm
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Ancestral Recall
2 Rebuild
3 Duress
1 Thoughtseize
2 Night’s Whisper
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Ponder
1 Time Walk
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Tinker
1 Mind’s Desire
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Sensei’s Divining Top
1 Voltaic Key
1 Time Vault
1 Memory Jar
1 Inkwell Leviathan
S/B
4 Leyline of the Void
1 Jace Beleren
1 Yixlid Jailer
1 Trinisphere
2 Chalice of the Void
1 Pithing Needle
3 Energy Flux
2 Sower of Temptation

[Tobi]

I need to leave work right now so I can't finish but here are the first five shown on the photo album:
...

Awesome! Thanks a lot.
I typed the remaining two lists. Find the complete lists here: http://www.morphling.de/top8decks.php?id=1113

[Myriad Games]

Thanks again to everyone who helped type these up!

[Almanomada]

I think it would be easiest if evryone who plays vintage is forced to have an account here and then type their own lists in the appropriate tournament blog.  Scanning was a grrat idea but of course for those who learned to write with their thumbs makes it incredibly hard to read.  I was wondering how often events are run at your store and if anyone wants to play from the DC area willing to carpool 7 hours or so...  That is where i will be living hopefully in the next few months.. Out of the country currently with the US Army and cant wait to get back into a group of crazy Magic players.  *Jeremiah