Results BOM IV

[Zieby]

Top 8

1. Fabian Moyschewitz [Deu] - MUD
2. Andrew Madruga [Eng] - MUD
3. Pedro J Sanchez [Eng] - ANT
4. Mickael Lellouche [Fra] - Madness
5. Marius Hausmann [Deu] - Stax
6. Carlos Fermandez Baillo [Eng] - Remora
7. David Harald [DEU] - Noble Fish
8. Max Wilhelm Bruker [Deu] - MUD

Environment ... and Spanish to mention a few others that take some home ...

14. Ramon Sanchez - MUD ... Bazaar of Baghdad
15. Jonathan Garrido - Oath ... Bazaar of Baghdad
18. Alvaro Gonzalez - Noble ... Fish Drain Mana
33. Guillem Ragull - Drain Tendrils ... Polluted Delta
40. Alcoriza Miquel - ... Scalding Tarn

Quarter finals

Fabian Moyschewitz [Deu] - MUD - WINS-Max Wilhelm Bruker [Deu] - MUD
Mickael Lellouche [Fra] - Madness - WINS - Marius Hausmann [Deu] - Stax
Carlos Fermandez Baillo [Eng] - Remora - WINS - Pedro J Sanchez [Eng] - ANT
David Harald [DEU] - Noble Fish - WINS - Andrew Madruga [Eng] - MUD

Semifinals

Fabian Moyschewitz [Deu] - MUD - WINS - Mickael Lellouche [Fra] - Madness
Carlos Fermandez Baillo [Eng] - Remora - WINS - David Harald [DEU] - Noble Fish

End

Fabian Moyschewitz [Deu] - MUD - WINS - Carlos Fermandez Baillo [Eng] - Remora

The winner is Fabian Moyschewitz! Has prevented the whole tournament was dominated Spanish. Bailly takes home five Moxes, which is not bad, and we leave with the feeling of having done very well the duties.

Congratulations to everyone! By the way, interesting facts:

• National Looting is 40 Duals FBB and winner mat BoM Legacy, 7 Moxes, 1 Black Lotus 1 Ancestral 1 Time Walk, 2 Bazaar, a Birds of Paradise of Alpha, a Loyal Retainers, 1 Drain, some Fetch Duals Land and about 20 normal and you can add a Jace the Mindsculptor I play on the envelopes of Dario, if we have major events and trial.

• Fabian Moyschewitz has been the first of two Swiss, who won a victory last year Benito, and that has earned him the special prize on Alpha.

• I have the 800 lists of both tournaments, I'll make the metagame Breakdown of events and lists up the Top 8, and I will as soon as possible.

Thanks to all who have followed this coverage, I hope you have enjoyed, which was the idea. I think the Legacy has had to be great, but the Vintage have fared well for a while and my deck was very slow, I could not cover the event otherwise. I want to thank all who have endured when people asked them how they and those who have helped me, especially Mario Avalos, who all volunteered to take charge of covering the results of the suresteños.

Coverage of the day tomorrow playing tourist, perhaps ... And if not ...

... See you in the next Coverage!

A Enjoy!


I will add top 8 list when found.

Greetz Arjan

[piZZero]

When you say "Eng" it should read "Esp". It's not the same English than Español

*Edit* I found out you just google translated the web from César Fernández (Chapuzas)

[heiner]

The winner is Fabian Moyschewitz! Has prevented the whole tournament was dominated Spanish.

Not only him! Actually with four germans in T8 it was clearly dominated by the germans

Fabians performance was just outstanding!

1st day (legacy): Undefeated first in swiss (7-0-2) - 480 people !!
2nd day (Vintage): Undefeated first in swiss(8-0-1) - 348 people !! (3:0 in T8)

Thats a combined 18-1-3 in two days - incredible!

The tournament was pristine. Props to the americans and all the others from over the world who made it.

[Tobi]

Actually the top 8 names are very similar to the ones of the last Darmstadt tournament 

Finished 36th myself with Horden Tendrils, loosing to MUD and Drain Tendrils, winning against Tezz, other Drain Tendrils, some Noble Fish, budget Goblins and a Kiln Fiend pile, drawing against a Noble. 6-2-1

Awesome tournament it was. Great judges, friendly people, perfectly organized. Many thanks to Emmanuel and Lois for putting up this exciting piece of vintage magic!

[PETER FLUGZEUG]

Wow, not a single Oath deck in the Top8.
Where they trashed by hate or didn't they show up?
Was the remora deck kind of Tezzy?

[Gambit]

Wow, not a single Oath deck in the Top8.
Where they trashed by hate or didn't they show up?
Was the remora deck kind of Tezzy?

I'm excited about that fact, but more excited about what the MADNESS list will look like!

[Suicideking]

Wow, not a single Oath deck in the Top8.
Where they trashed by hate or didn't they show up?
Was the remora deck kind of Tezzy?

Oath really never shows up in Euro Tourneys.  Ive always been interested in what causes this.  It seems like with how many shops are in their meta it would thrive.

[Tobi]

There were many Oath lists being played at the top tables, but none of them made the cut to top 8.

[Odd mutation]

Wow, not a single Oath deck in the Top8.
Where they trashed by hate or didn't they show up?
Was the remora deck kind of Tezzy?

Oath really never shows up in Euro Tourneys.  Ive always been interested in what causes this.  It seems like with how many shops are in their meta it would thrive.

Well, look here...

Robrecht

[yukizora]

Well, a friend of mine made 6-2-1 with Oath, so not that bad. And I must admit he did a lot of missplays. However I didn't see much oath players in the tournament, that might explain.
Unfortunately nothing interesting on my side, 2-3 and 3-3, with ANT and Belcher, had a lot of fun, but lost to bad estimations with ANT.
Can't wait till next year!

[ancestral recall]

Can someone post some decklists from T8?

[Neonico]

Oath was just the worst possible deck choice for a tournament like BoM in my opinion.
You have the spanish/italians playing drain tendrils with what millions bounces.
You have alot of legacy players who choose to play dredge for budget reasons (and interesting unpowered prizes)
You have alot of Mud actually played in our metagame....
Oath is allways in france a pet deck choice, often played by bad players. So yes, it was played alot and the 3 reasons above are why it didn't perform better.

As a shop player, i would be very happy to play in the US metal, full of Oath decks.

[breed]

Oath is allways in france a pet deck choice, often played by bad players.

In fact, that's why I played it.  When you can't test too much, It's an easy playable deck, even in France.
I was at 4-1 (beating 1x BlackGreen deck, 1x Tyran Oath, 1x Dredge, 1x ANT, loosing against Jace control deck -1 lifepoint left sick-)  before loosing to Romain38 (I played so badly and mulliganed to 5 game 3) and Watanabe (DT)...

Damned.

[M.Solymossy]

As a shop player, i would be very happy to play in the US metal, full of Oath decks.

I really want to ask if you're challenged, but I won't.    Anyone who thinks Mud has a good matchup against Oath thinks that President Obama is white. 

[islanderboi10]

As a shop player, i would be very happy to play in the US metal, full of Oath decks.

I really want to ask if you're challenged, but I won't.    Anyone who thinks Mud has a good matchup against Oath thinks that President Obama is white. 

Wait he's not white?


Anyways...grats on all the finishes. I would like to hear your arguement about the Oath vs. Mud.
And Madness in the Top!?!?!? I want to see that list.
What surprises me is, no Tezz top 8ing? (Unless Remora is a Tezz-style deck)

[Tobi]

As a shop player, i would be very happy to play in the US metal, full of Oath decks.

I really want to ask if you're challenged, but I won't.    Anyone who thinks Mud has a good matchup against Oath thinks that President Obama is white. 

Wait he's not white?

That was my first thought, too. 

Concerning the MUD vs Oath matchup I'd also say that MUD, at least the aggro versions, has serious problems against it. On the other hand, MUD has a number of answers, like Duplicants and Jester's Cap.

[Neonico]

As a shop player, i would be very happy to play in the US metal, full of Oath decks.

I really want to ask if you're challenged, but I won't.    Anyone who thinks Mud has a good matchup against Oath thinks that President Obama is white.  

Wait he's not white?

That was my first thought, too.  

Concerning the MUD vs Oath matchup I'd also say that MUD, at least the aggro versions, has serious problems against it. On the other hand, MUD has a number of answers, like Duplicants and Jester's Cap.

As you have seen in our games tobi, i play a very aggressive version of MUD lately, and in BoM.
And i still have some very good resultats against oath, both in testings (against some of the best oath pilots in Paris) and in tournaments (still beat a oath deck in BoM, and the games weren't even close).

Playing 4 mishra factories, 2 duppliquants maindeck, 2 duppliquants, 2 null brooch and 3 jester's cap postboard really helps alots.

I mainly noticed that an early lock piece followed by Juggs/golems is often enough to let you kill them the turn they oath. The only Oath version i have a bad matchup against is the TPS/Oath hybrid regulary played here in france.

So, Obama isn't white, but he isn't totally black either That's certainly why.

[Jess.fr]

Oath was just the worst possible deck choice for a tournament like BoM in my opinion.
You have the spanish/italians playing drain tendrils with what millions bounces.
You have alot of legacy players who choose to play dredge for budget reasons (and interesting unpowered prizes)
You have alot of Mud actually played in our metagame....
Oath is allways in france a pet deck choice, often played by bad players. So yes, it was played alot and the 3 reasons above are why it didn't perform better.

As a shop player, i would be very happy to play in the US metal, full of Oath decks.

Well, thanks for the "bad players", you're such a charm

I performed honorably with an Oath/Tezz list, ranking 8th (1st French player) on the 8th round, before being kicked out of top 8 by Michael Lelouche's Madness deck.
Still, playing the Vault/Key combo, and Terastodon / Sphinx / Emrakul was the good choice, imho. I won against 3 shop decks, 2 dredge, and lost only to TPS and Madness, and these matches were really close!

Not sure Oath was the worst (nor best) choice possible, but the latest builds do rely on the pilot, and I could have made better choices.
After second thoughts, I would have played the same deck, and tinkered with the side a bit more.

[Odd mutation]

Well, thanks for the "bad players", you're such a charm

I performed honorably with an Oath/Tezz list, ranking 8th (1st French player) on the 8th round, before being kicked out of top 8 by Michael Lelouche's Madness deck.
Still, playing the Vault/Key combo, and Terastodon / Sphinx / Emrakul was the good choice, imho. I won against 3 shop decks, 2 dredge, and lost only to TPS and Madness, and these matches were really close!

Not sure Oath was the worst (nor best) choice possible, but the latest builds do rely on the pilot, and I could have made better choices.
After second thoughts, I would have played the same deck, and tinkered with the side a bit more.

I would like to see your decklist as I've been thinking about testing Emrakul but haven't gotten arround to it. Would you mind sharing your list and some thoughts on the deck?

Thanks,

Robrecht

[Mantis]

This is Madness!


EDIT: When are the decklist coming up, really interested in seeing what the Madness list looks like and also curious if the MUD lists bring any new tech to the table. By the way, Marius Hausman is a TMD visitor right? If so, congrats to him.

[bb-g]

I hate tiebreakers, should have been in the T8 instead i end up being nr 10. Still happy though!

[Jess.fr]

I would like to see your decklist as I've been thinking about testing Emrakul but haven't gotten arround to it. Would you mind sharing your list and some thoughts on the deck?

// Lands
    4  Forbidden Orchard
    4  Misty Rainforest
    3  Tropical Island
    2  Underground Sea
    2  Island
    1  Forest
    1  Tolarian Academy

// Creatures
    1  Terastodon
    1 [ARB] Sphinx of the Steel Wind
    1  Emrakul, the Aeons Torn

// Spells
    1  Mox Jet
    1  Demonic Tutor
    1  Yawgmoth's Will
    4  Force of Will
    4  Spell Pierce
    3  Mana Drain
    1  Mox Emerald
    1  Vampiric Tutor
    1  Mox Pearl
    1  Mox Ruby
    1  Mox Sapphire
    1  Sol Ring
    1  Mana Crypt
    1  Black Lotus
    1  Tezzeret the Seeker
    1  Ancestral Recall
    1  Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    1  Time Vault
    1  Voltaic Key
    1  Sensei's Divining Top
    4  Oath of Druids
    1  Regrowth
    1  Mystical Tutor
    1  Thirst for Knowledge
    1  Merchant Scroll
    1  Gifts Ungiven
    1  Time Walk
    1  Brainstorm
    1  Tinker

// Sideboard
SB: 1  Bribery
SB: 4  Ravenous Trap
SB: 1  Hurkyl's Recall
SB: 2  Pyroclasm
SB: 2  Nature's Claim
SB: 1  Show and Tell
SB: 2  Tormod's Crypt
SB: 2  Duress

The list was first inspired by Ben Carp's. I believe most people mistake it for a "simple" Oath list, while it should be played as a control deck with a twist. Most games I won thanks to the Vault/Key combo, an EOT Gifts or a deadly Will after a counters war.

I tested a slightly different list on Friday's side event (50+ players), with Terastodon, Iona and DS Colossus, and LOA instead of the 3rd Tropical Island.
Terastodon proved to be particularly efficient, and I won each time it landed (I even cast it once). Colossus I didn't want to play, as trampling over one's own tokens seems bad. As for Iona, I decided to fire her, expecting to find many Shop and Dredge decks on the battle field.
Lastly, I'm not a fan of the LOA, as it can have you mistake a bad opening hand for a good one.

On Sunday, I played with the list above, and regreted none of the choices I made.
To sum it up:

- Terastodon is a blast, as it will remove opposite threats from the board upon arrival. Generally, you will destroy one of your opponent's land, your Oath and a mox/land you don't need. I used it once to destroy an opposing Smokestack while my opponent had board advantage, and once skipped my turn to Time Vault in order to Oath Terastodon and swing for 18 on my additional turn.

- Emrakul was an auto-win each time it hit the board, but I believe it's mainly due to the fact that people are still unprepared against its threat. It won me the game where Terastodon couldn't, as removing your opponent's whole board is more efficient than destroying 3 non-creatures permanents.

- Sphinx helped me race a Leviathan in a mirror match, will block a Golem, but can be killed quite easily.

All in all, I think the creatures you play depend on your metagame. I was content with what I chose.
Jace and Tezz are good too, and will win some games for you.
The side deck proved efficient vs Dredge and Stack, but not so much against over control decks.

[FlyFlySideOfFry]

As a shop player, i would be very happy to play in the US metal, full of Oath decks.

I really want to ask if you're challenged, but I won't.    Anyone who thinks Mud has a good matchup against Oath thinks that President Obama is white.  

Wait he's not white?

That was my first thought, too.  

Concerning the MUD vs Oath matchup I'd also say that MUD, at least the aggro versions, has serious problems against it. On the other hand, MUD has a number of answers, like Duplicants and Jester's Cap.

As you have seen in our games tobi, i play a very aggressive version of MUD lately, and in BoM.
And i still have some very good resultats against oath, both in testings (against some of the best oath pilots in Paris) and in tournaments (still beat a oath deck in BoM, and the games weren't even close).

Playing 4 mishra factories, 2 duppliquants maindeck, 2 duppliquants, 2 null brooch and 3 jester's cap postboard really helps alots.

I mainly noticed that an early lock piece followed by Juggs/golems is often enough to let you kill them the turn they oath. The only Oath version i have a bad matchup against is the TPS/Oath hybrid regulary played here in france.

So, Obama isn't white, but he isn't totally black either That's certainly why.

I'm going to have to seriously doubt the skill level of people who play Oath near you, MUD is Oath's best possible matchup it should be a borderline bye. How Oath running TPS cards (you know TPS, the deck that is supposed to have an uphill battle against MUD) is a tougher matchup for you than straight up Oath should seriously be evidence that playskill is the deciding factor. I'd play cash games Oath vs MUD letting my opponent decide pre or post-board all day 2:1 odds with a stock list let alone one built to battle a metagame that seems to be infested with MUD.

[Phele]

Here we are, thanks for posting the decklists:

http://www.elsantuario.es/foro/index.php?PHPSESSID=32223722ace519966215a4b113168b83&topic=7016.msg61796#new

Participantes: 347
Rondas: 9 + Top8

Fabian Moyschewitz - AggroMUD

4 Triskelion
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Metalworker
3 Karn, Silver Golem
4 Tangle Wire
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Thorn of Amethyst
2 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Mishra's Factory
2 City of Traitors
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Ancient Tomb

SB:
4 Duplicant
4 Relic of Progenitus
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Crucible of Worlds
2 Sculpting Steel

Carlos Fernández-Baillo - Remora


2 Vendillion Clique
4 Force of Will
3 Mana Drain
3 Spell Snare
2 Mindbreak Trap
4 Repeal
2 Hurkyl's Recall
3 Mystic Remora
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Meditate
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
2 Empty the Warrens

1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Underground Sea
3 Volcanic Island
4 Island
2 Misty Rainforest
3 Flooded Strand

SB:
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Pithing Needle
1 Mindbreak Trap
3 Ravenous Trap
1 Yixlid Jailer
4 Ingot Chewer
2 Pyroclasm
1 Lava Dart
1 Red Elemental Blast

Michael Lellouche - Madness

4 Squee, Goblin Nabob
4 Basking Rootwalla
3 Grim Lavamancer
1 Darksteel Colossus

4 Force of Will
4 Circular Logic
2 Spell Pierce
2 Spell Snare
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Intuition
1 Tinker
2 Ancient Grudge
2 Life from the Loam
1 Crop Rotation
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Diamond
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
1 Strip Mine
2 Wasteland
1 Riftsone Portal
1 Barbarian Ring
1 Island
1 Tundra
3 Volcanic Island
3 Tropical Island
1 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand
4 Bazaar of Bagdad

SB:
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Spell Pierce
3 Swords to Plowshares
3 Ravenous Trap
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Pyroblast
4 Nature's Claim

David Harald - "Popel Fish"

4 Noble Hierarch
4 Quasali Pridemage
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Meddling Mage
3 Trygon Predator
4 Force of Will
3 Daze
3 Stifle
2 Spell Pierce
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
3 Swords to Plowshares
1 Regrowth
3 Null Rod
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
3 Tundra
4 Tropical Island
2 Flooded Strand
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Polluted Delta

SB:
4 Relic of Progenitus
2 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Spell Pierce
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Path to Exile
1 Seal of Cleansing
3 Ravenous Trap
2 Nature's Claim

Max Wilhem Bruker - MUD

4 Triskelion
4 Lodestone Golem
3 Karn, Silver Golem
4 Tangle Wire
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Thorn of Amethyst
3 Smokestack
2 Crucible of Worlds
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Mishra's Factory
1 Rishadan Port
1 City of Traitors
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Ancient Tomb

SB:
3 Relic of Progenitus
3 Tormod's Crypt
3 Powder Keg
3 Razormane Masticore
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Pithing Needle
1 Duplicant

Marius Hausmann - AggroMUD

4 Triskelion
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Metalworker
3 Karn, Silver Golem
4 Tangle Wire
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Thorn of Amethyst
2 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Mishra's Factory
2 City of Traitors
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Ancient Tomb

SB:
4 Duplicant
4 Relic of Progenitus
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Crucible of Worlds
2 Sculpting Steel

Pedro J. Sánchez - ANT

4 Pact of Negation
2 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Chain of Vapor
1 Ponder
1 Brainstorm
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Duress
1 Toughtseize
4 Ad Nauseam
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Necropotence
3 Tendrils of Agony
4 Dark Ritual
3 Cabal Ritual
4 Chrome Mox
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Lotus Petal
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
2 Island
2 Swamp
1 Badland
3 Underground Sea
2 Bloodstained Mire
3 Polluted Delta

SB:
1 Volcanic Island
1 Tormod's Crypt
2 Hurkyl's Recall
3 Dark Confidant
2 Extirpate
1 Thoughtseize
1 Slaugther Pact
1 Sadistic Sacrament
3 Empty the Warrens

Andrés Madruga - AggroMUD

4 Lodestone Golem
4 Juggernaut
2 Duplicant
4 Sculpting Steel
4 Tangle Wire
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Sphere of Resistance
3 Null ROd
2 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Trinisphere
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Mishra's Factory
2 City of Traitors
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Ancient Tomb

SB:
3 Spawning Pit2 Duplicant
3 Relic of Progenitus
3 Crucible of Worlds
2 Powder Keg
2 Duplicant
1 Null Rod
1 Tormod's Crypt

[Cyberpunker]

Holy crap that Remora and those MUD lists look so damn scary.

[Evenpence]

Holy crap that Remora and those MUD lists look so damn scary.

I could be wrong, but I think I've seen the winning MUD list card for card floating around on the tournament report board for months.  Hausmann's seems to be the same as well.

[frolll]

You're not wrong. People will have to start overboarding in heavy artifact hate someday...

BTW, thanks for the lists.

[Cyberpunker]

Holy crap that Remora and those MUD lists look so damn scary.

I could be wrong, but I think I've seen the winning MUD list card for card floating around on the tournament report board for months.  Hausmann's seems to be the same as well.

Sorry I didn't look at the forum lately. But I especially meant the 6 card Oath sideboard. 4 Duplicant and 2-3 Sculpting Steel. Ouch!

[Neonico]

I'm going to have to seriously doubt the skill level of people who play Oath near you, MUD is Oath's best possible matchup it should be a borderline bye. How Oath running TPS cards (you know TPS, the deck that is supposed to have an uphill battle against MUD) is a tougher matchup for you than straight up Oath should seriously be evidence that playskill is the deciding factor. I'd play cash games Oath vs MUD letting my opponent decide pre or post-board all day 2:1 odds with a stock list let alone one built to battle a metagame that seems to be infested with MUD.

Frist, you have to consider that oath is a win easy deck, that alot of bad players because you can win alot of games without any skills (Turn 1 oath with backup, we all know how it works) so i think that the skill level of oath players is lower than any other decks.

But for me, it's absolutly not a pilot skill problem. I did so many tournaments games against vorman Oath and terastodon oath since i play MUD (a year ago) and i'm really really favorable in the matchup, playing against some of the best french players playing oath (you can tell me that French are bad players, but one of my oath opponnents was the guy who fisnished Top4 with madness, not what i call a bad player).

Second, I think that you don't know what you speak about when you speak of the oath/TPS vs MUD matchup. The Oath/TPS hybrid list is the only nightmare list for MUD for only one reason : it wins the turn it oathes. Not because tps got a good or bad matchup against mud. That and because the best creature against MUD is Tidespout Tyrant (at least the creature I hate the most to face, because all my oath answers are sorcery speed)

And that is the main problem of oath deck against Mud, at least my list : you can often delay the oath enough to deal 10/15 damages before they oath. And the turn they finally got their creature, they often are dead on board.
Also, i pack alot of good cards against oath maindeck (Tangle Wire, Sculpting Steel, duppliquant, Chalice of the void) and alot more post sideboard (Null brooch, more duppliquants, Jester's cap).
the only real bad beat you can face is a turn 1 oath + Orchard on the draw (and even with that, you can still win the games with Tangle/Dupp/Sculpting Steel).

So perhaps that you figured the matchup with the MUD lists posted here on TMD, but i can advice you to test the matchup with my list, pre and post sideboard and see if oath destroys MUD that much.

List and report in french here : http://solomoxen.com/forum/index.php?topic=11993.msg116658#msg116658
My game 1round 6 against oath went that way :
Turn 1 sphere
Turn 2 golem
Turn 3 juggernaut
Than beatdown with all my creatures + Mishr'as factory + spirit tokens, i have him on 3 life when he finally oathes on turn 3, and i kill him on turn 4, with sculpting steel in hand if he oathes sphynx of the steelwind

game 2 :
I made him uses his counters on both sphere, golem, jester cap, to finally stick a null brooch which will protect me from getting oathed/rebuilt while i finish him with mishra's factories before finding another creature to have a faster clock.

[BruiZar]

I played Terastodon oath card for card. I didn't once lose to a shop deck. That said, Terastodon oath felt really, really bad. I kept getting DSC's when I needed Iona's or Terastodon. Terastodon itself was actually pretty bad too. If I would play Oath again I would play 1 Emrakul + 1 Iona with dragon breaths and leave the tinker to assemble the vault key combo.

The deck malperformed twice, where I milled myself into oblivion. I actually got decked versus dredge (which is supposed to be over quickly) and got decked during another match. With Emrakul, at least I can safely clear the board and beat my opponent to a pulp before I can't draw any cards.