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« Reply #270 on: November 05, 2014, 02:23:21 pm » |
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the explanation is that the semi finals match was slated to be best of 3 matches, and the finals match was slated to be best of 5 matches.
It was possible that no tiebreakers would be necessary. In the event of tie breakers, it was stated that it would be best of 3 games.
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« Reply #271 on: November 05, 2014, 04:35:48 pm » |
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If you bother to do round robin it's not enough of an incentive for those that did well in a 9 round tournament with 10 people to do a regular cut to top4. They use this format in Proleague for Starcraft and I think it's reasonable when the regular season is so long.
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« Reply #272 on: November 05, 2014, 04:45:03 pm » |
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BTW, top 4 decklists were posted, if folks were curious about what I played.
And no, it wasn't metagamed for LSV. That's what I'd play in a tournament tomorrow.
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« Reply #273 on: November 05, 2014, 06:41:09 pm » |
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Hopefully the match was eye opening for those who think that Oath has a great matchup against a Delver deck that is built, piloted, and sideboarded correctly.
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« Reply #274 on: November 05, 2014, 06:42:42 pm » |
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To be fair, that was simply an Oath transformational sideboard. It was not a true Oath deck.
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« Reply #275 on: November 05, 2014, 07:41:58 pm » |
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By cutting the two Spell Piece, I've definitely weakened my game 1 against Oath. But if I know my opponent is on Oath, bring in Cage and Nature's Claim, which I have Mystical to find. And Trygon is obviously amazing in that matchup as well.
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« Reply #276 on: November 05, 2014, 07:54:08 pm » |
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To be fair, that was simply an Oath transformational sideboard. It was not a true Oath deck.
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« Reply #277 on: November 05, 2014, 11:41:06 pm » |
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And no, it wasn't metagamed for LSV. That's what I'd play in a tournament tomorrow.
So out of curiosity, let's say you were going into a tournament tomorrow and couldn't play UR Delver, what would you do/play in order to combat a UR or RUG heavy field? |
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« Reply #278 on: November 06, 2014, 01:11:08 am » |
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And no, it wasn't metagamed for LSV. That's what I'd play in a tournament tomorrow.
So out of curiosity, let's say you were going into a tournament tomorrow and couldn't play UR Delver, what would you do/play in order to combat a UR or RUG heavy field? I have no idea. Workshops possibly, with Rachet Bombs. |
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« Reply #279 on: November 06, 2014, 01:37:53 am » |
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Despite the Fact that this is a 'Creature based' strategy it probably casts only 1-3 creatures per game. So I was wondering If Mystic Remora would be effective against it.
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« Reply #280 on: November 06, 2014, 01:44:54 am » |
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Despite the Fact that this is a 'Creature based' strategy it probably casts only 1-3 creatures per game. So I was wondering If Mystic Remora would be effective against it.
No. If you played Mystic Remora against me I'd just deploy creatures like crazy. That's if you resolved it through Misstep/Pyroblast/Force. |
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« Reply #281 on: November 06, 2014, 02:09:23 am » |
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And no, it wasn't metagamed for LSV. That's what I'd play in a tournament tomorrow.
So out of curiosity, let's say you were going into a tournament tomorrow and couldn't play UR Delver, what would you do/play in order to combat a UR or RUG heavy field? I have no idea. Workshops possibly, with Rachet Bombs. So why not just run something similarly consistent and fair, but with a different kill than say Pyromancer? I'm asking mostly because when I came back to Vintage and started playing Blue decks I obviously built something similar to my old Painter or Tezz deck and went with it. Over time I added a single Agent of Bolas in place of one of the several Tezz's I was running, and pretty much every tournament I played in I swapped one more out, to the point where I was running 3 Agents and 0 Seekers by NYSE2, and I never felt like I was worse for it. Additionally, Time Walk went from an ok card in my deck to an amazing power play most of the time because it basically said I won that turn after resolving it. I guess what I'm wondering is how much better is it to take some of these control decks and boil them down to Treasure Cruise decks, in the sense that you increase the consistency and reduce the broken plays until you get something that isn't so dependent on a handful of plays. Like your plan against those decks is to essentially go full control mode with Pyros as your win con, which makes sense on a lot of levels, and Oath is similar in that it just runs a lot of redundant threats, as they have 4x Oath versus just depending on 1x Vault or 1x Tinker. I feel like in a lot of ways this reminds me of what happened in Legacy, back in the day you had things like Welder Survival, Iggy Pop, and so forth and so on, but as the format became more refined it shifted from the "broken" plays to a more complicated format where you could still do a lot of interesting stuff but ultimately wanted consistency over bombyness, and I feel like in a lot of ways we're seeing the same transition in Vintage now. I don't think this is a bad thing, simply something that changes the field, but retains the concept. |
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« Reply #282 on: November 07, 2014, 01:33:55 pm » |
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David Willams' deck is AWESOME, and has a great name to boot.
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« Reply #283 on: November 11, 2014, 05:41:40 pm » |
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Anybody else hate that Game 1 keep by LSV in his match vs. Steve?
Dig Through Time
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Just having the Tinker and BSC in hand is already like a mull to 5. The Dig Through Time isn't going to get turned on til later in the game. Doesn't have the second island for Gush. Just seemed really bad for such an excellent player.
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« Reply #284 on: November 11, 2014, 06:58:58 pm » |
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That hand changes completely with a tutor for brainstorm T1 followed by tinker T2/T3 and DTT T3/T4 off a fetchland.
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« Reply #285 on: November 11, 2014, 07:08:00 pm » |
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I think it was fine, sure he has one really bad card in hand, being BSC, but Tinker is still live for other cards off one land, same with Gush. He also has the ability to turn 1 DT if needed and Steve is known for playing a very grindy game as Delver against control decks, so there's a good chance he just has time to get Dig online, find another land, and so forth.
Sure, it's a weaker hand, but it's not a horrible keep knowing what he did.
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« Reply #286 on: November 11, 2014, 07:27:29 pm » |
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10th player for the VSL being announced and apparently an announcement from WotC on tonight's VSL.Week 2 of the playoffs is here with LSV vs. E-Fro. It's crazy to say this but in some ways those amazing games may not even be the most exciting thing happening this week with the VSL. In addition to their potential 3 matches that they may play to determine who will face Menendian in the finals, we will here two huge announcements this week.
First we're going to hear an official Wizards of The Coast announcement about what? I have no clue! But I know I'm pretty hyped to hear what's being announced tonight. Closer to the tournament side of things another announcement will be happening, which will be our 10th player for next season of VSL. Not only is the 10th player being announced, but they will play in a separate show-matches against Randy Buehler.
So come join us this week for some epic Vintage Super League action.
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« Reply #287 on: November 11, 2014, 07:29:08 pm » |
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Remember! Tune in tonight for some great Vintage games.
And don't forget that tonight will feature an announcement of a new competitor for Season 2, as well as a Bonus Special Announcement!
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« Reply #288 on: November 11, 2014, 10:46:15 pm » |
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Remember! Tune in tonight for some great Vintage games.
And don't forget that tonight will feature an announcement of a new competitor for Season 2, as well as a Bonus Special Announcement!
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« Reply #289 on: November 11, 2014, 10:49:05 pm » |
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Remember! Tune in tonight for some great Vintage games.
And don't forget that tonight will feature an announcement of a new competitor for Season 2, as well as a Bonus Special Announcement!
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« Reply #290 on: November 11, 2014, 10:51:36 pm » |
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Remember! Tune in tonight for some great Vintage games.
And don't forget that tonight will feature an announcement of a new competitor for Season 2, as well as a Bonus Special Announcement!
So, a glorified premier event ? :p very good prize support too Doesn't really change the validity my statement any lol. Consider me not impressed by this announcement, seems like a flash in the pan that I can't see bringing anyone new to the format besides those who play in the tournament for a single day. Even then, 10th-19th gives us one weekend to qualify via Vintage :/ |
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« Reply #291 on: November 12, 2014, 12:07:48 am » |
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Prizes look great, but how many tourneys will there be in the 10 day period that fire? Take quite a few of them to get enough qualifiers (at least vintage players). Legacy tourneys draw 50+.
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« Reply #292 on: November 12, 2014, 12:39:24 am » |
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Two things I don't like about the announcement:
1.) It's a magic online thing and I don't really care about magic online, but that's a personal thing.
2.) Bazaar is considered unpowered :/... Guys, come on.
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« Reply #293 on: November 12, 2014, 12:50:16 am » |
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I'm almost tempted to do some Vintage Masters drafts to collect cards for Dredge.
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« Reply #294 on: November 12, 2014, 01:45:23 am » |
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So here's a dumb question as someone who hasn't played MtGO all that much, if I decided to build Dredge is there some special stop or priority retain I need to set to use Dredge or do all the Dredge triggers in your yard just happen at the same time and you have to weed through them to select which you want to use for each draw?
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« Reply #295 on: November 12, 2014, 02:43:16 am » |
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...time to tighten up my SB dredge hate...
I do like that WotC is showing more commitment to the format. Sure, this one event may be a flash in the pan, but if even a few new players buy into MTGO Vintage for the sake of this event, some are bound to stick around. And the prize support for this event is definitely a step in the right direction compared to random M15 boosters.
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« Reply #296 on: November 12, 2014, 01:33:38 pm » |
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I can seen next week now: IN THIS CORNER, the Dark Lord of the Sith, the Ambassador of Vintage, the man who wrote the book on Gush... Steve Menedian! AND IN THIS CORNER, the cross-format wizard, the King of the Topdeck, unofficial captain of Team Channelfireball... L-S-V! You guys better do some WWF style prep, hype, and production for the climax of this series!  |
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« Reply #297 on: November 12, 2014, 06:26:53 pm » |
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IN THIS CORNER, the Dark Lord of the Sith, the Ambassador of Vintage, the man who wrote the book on Gush... Steve Menedian!
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« Reply #298 on: November 12, 2014, 06:50:49 pm » |
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IN THIS CORNER, the Dark Lord of the Sith, the Ambassador of Vintage, the man who wrote the book on Gush... Steve Menedian!
One of the few times where the phrase "literally wrote the book on" is correct usage. Wrote a book on is the correct usage from my vantage point :p |
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« Reply #299 on: November 12, 2014, 08:10:00 pm » |
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I'm not aware of anyone else having written a book on Gush :p
Thanks for the support in the finals. I'd talk more about it, but I don't want to give anything away.
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