The bottom line is that judges should be able to pull the "poor-sportmanship" card.

Beware: next opponent to storm me to death, to give me a smile full of compassion (and relief)... and, who will eventually ask me out of courtesy:  "fluster?... Trap?..."

I will say to you with a smug look on my face: "no, but thanks for passing priority. A real bummer you didn't actually announce your storm trigger".

Yeah, that will go well. Good MTG skills and the best is that the judge will be powerless.

Sure there were no deck lists but i should have the 75 memorized at this point:

4 Scalding Tarn
1 Polluted Delta
1 Misty Rainforest
3 Underground Sea
3 Tropical Island
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Strip Mine
1 Island
4 Mox (cant remember if I cut Pearl or Emerald)
1 Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Top
1 Time Vault
1 Key
1 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Goblin Welder
2 Baleful Strix
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Myr Battlesphere
2 Dack Fayden
1 Tezzeret, The Seeker
4 Force of Will
2 Lightning Bolt
2 Thoughtseize
2 Mana Drain
2 Mental Misstep
1 Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Brainstorm
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Hurkyls Recall
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 KERANOS, GOD OF STORMS

4 Grafdiggers Cage
3 Ingot Chewer
1 Crucible of worlds
1 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Toxic Deluge
1 Flusterstorm
1 Misdirection
1 Sower of Temptation
1 Engineered Explosives


Ill probably do a write up in the blue area about both days my choices on cards and stuff. I went 4-3 yesterday but had a round 6 win and in that came down to the last possible sequence of events. Yes Keranos, God of Storms is real, he was freaking amazing, No I don't miss Jace. The difference between yesterday and today was no spellbomb in the main, all 5 mox, only 3 cages in the board, no Sower/EE or Misdirection, instead 2 Engineered Plagues and 1 Izzet Staticcaster which also did work all day yesterday.

Quick edit: Without me going through my notes, I won Round 1 Vs Bomberman. Lost Round two Vs Martello with Roland Chang at the helm. Won round three vs BuG control. Beat Goblins round 4 ( a good friend of mine was paired up to me, offered to scoop but we still played it out). Round 5 ID with Justin Kohler ( We played 3 I think i got it 2-1 with Welder being the MVP). Top 8: I played against Esper Tezz round 1 (when I do a full write up ill talk about this, most insane game of magic I have ever played) Top 4 I got to redeem my one loss on the day to Roland Chang. In the finals I played Mike R. on Oath and that was the day.

Blue affinity with modular anyone?

put a ton of counters on ravager, sac, put a bunch of counters on this guy.....take many turns.  Repeat.

4 Perilous Research

4 Perilous Research

Yeah, Survival probably should not have been banned.  But, now that it is, we have this really bizarre situation where Survival (not played in any format) sells for just as much as Oath of Druids (Vintage staple). 

Why do you price inertia, casual players?

Some cards make there way in.  Rarely does an entire combo though.  Survival of the fittest was a graveyard based archetype that demolished legacy for the better part of a year.  We have yet to see anything come of that so I don't think a weaker graveyard based combo is really going to cut it.  Id of course be happy to be wrong, but he needs to play the deck first...

Infinite life doesn't beat Jace, the Mind Sculptor.

I'm Glad to hear Steve quite well in this podcast!
Although I know this is a review from a Vintage viewpoint, I'd like to point that barrage of expendables is an immediate improvement over goblin bombardment. Even the cost reduction, that may not be enough to pass the Legacy barrier.

I had forgotten about that guy. It's great for an aggro deck (altought I'm biased to control red). Bolts will hit more easily (countering them is 2 damage nevertheless).

While painter is nice, most sorceries/instants are already blue, and some white like swords. With painter your own bolts would deal damage to you, and you would affect black discarders/tutors and little more.

These combines nicely with Tovolar's Magehunter in the blue matchup: if you want to concat spells you are going to have a bad time. Pyrostatic pillar/spellshock also punish playing spells for fun.

Magus seems a good idea since he also helps preventing opponent playing spells. It's not a hard lock at all, but an aggressive soft one. This card improves blue match, but against mud, dredge or oath is pretty bad. With magus of the moon some pairings are improved. Smash to smithereens is advised (direct damage while breaking vault/moxen/mud cards, or even killing a jace). Grafdigger's cage also helps, but is no offensive at all.

At the end it's a kind of midrange deck with lots of blanks... still I like the card

What a whole crap I have written... sorry for the low quality post

You guys should do the live casts for Vintage at BoM. This way, I can lend your power and win the tourney with Humans.

I like how it was long, I watched it in 2 waves. Just saw it as 2 podcasts, nothing problematic about that.

So, you talked about Loa again, and on top used Cavern of Souls as a semi answer. Interesting, but the problem still remains, with full acceleration and access to cheap removal spells like Lightning Bolt, it is relatively easy to get rid of Thalia or Dark Confidant and still stay in range of the '7 cards in hand condition' to get more draws of Library. Misdirection and Mindbreak Trap are actually very strong against Abrupt Decay. They protect your crucible, a Decay target, for example.

That being said, I agree on a point; Not always would multiple library in hand be a good thing, or missing a colored land drop. But even one Sapphire/Ruby or Black Lotus change/swing that in favor of the Loa user. It is not hard to get ahead and stay ahead with a Loa, if the opponent didn't get a wasteland and you get a bolt (rather common isn't it?). So you guys think this should be allowed? A single land to take over the game very early on. I think another problem is, while a player is taking advantage of a Loa, the player is also building towards a Jace (because Loa also gives mana don't forget that) and once Jace is in play, plus the assumption you probably used some removal on their threats, while drawing cards, it becomes really hard to do anything really. It is NOT easy to fight a land, even as a wasteland deck, with so much potential power on it. It is unforgiving and extremely efficient in what it does if not taken care of. And even if you wasteland it (the second option to fight it, next to trying to play threats (which can easily be removed)), they could just play another one. Also if they get to use it before you wasteland, they just started the game with +1 card. Oh well, these are my 2 cents on this Loa matter.

On Aether Vial: The Cavern of Souls pretty much replaced Vial. Sure Vial still has its own advantages, but Cavern is such a boost, you get a land drop, the uncounterable effect, and this is pretty much enough. Vial can come online the next turn for Gorilla Shaman or Deathrite Shaman but it is nowere near the Cavern+Mox into 2cc Human bomb. The strenght of some of these creature decks running Caverns is to throw in a couple high quality cheap bears very early on and put the pressure on them. Vial doesn't follow this approach. And that brings me to the real issue, topdecking a vial after turn 2. It is still playable, don't get me wrong, but you get so much more mileage out of a turn 1 Vial. The difference with a later Vial is huge, and this offsets me. There are some exceptions to this though, against a Magus of the Moon deck for example, it could get you out of a lock. Or a Chalice for 2. But these are rather narrow circumstances.

I threw a list together, it's probably not that good, but it has an "oops I win" combo in it that people won't see coming:

Mana:
4 Cavern of Souls
4 City of Brass
4 Gemstone Mine
4 Wasteland
Strip Mine
Black Lotus
Mox Sapphire
Mox Jet
Mox Emerald
Mox Ruby
Mox Pearl
Lotus Petal

Slivers:
4 Gemhide Sliver
4 Heart Sliver
   Anthems:
4 Predator Sliver
4 Muscle Sliver
4 Sinew Sliver
   Utility:
4 Harmonic Sliver
   Combo:
4 Sliver Queen
4 Basal Sliver
4 Training Grounds

The sideboard is undecided, but the Combo seems viable. Allow me to explain it:

You get a Sliver Queen into play and a Training Grounds into play, Queen's ability now costs 1 mana. Basal Sliver allows you to sacrifice the token to create BB, use one to make a token, make infinite mana, regardless of Sphere Effects, make infinite Slivers, and if there is a Heart Sliver out GG!

People may say how Sliver Queen in Vintage? 5 mana? It's not that hard with Gemhide Sliver. Another thing to note is Gemhide Sliver cannot be Phyrexian Revokered!

The Sideboard could probably have Stony Silence, Essence Sliver, Darkheart Sliver, Tormod's Crypt, Energy Flux, etc. only time will tell.