Yes, those swords and dazes are certainly bothersome and lost me my place in the final, but Qasali is truly the bane of my life at the minute (I'm the mono-red aggro stax player). I'll probably pack the fourth Razormane for the next tournament given the metagame breakdown. In any event, enough fraternising with "the enemy".

http://www.elsantuario.es/foro/index.php/topic,6211.msg56336.html#new

Location              Trasgos Shop, Jaén, Andalusia, Spain  
Date                    13/02/2010      
No. players           18
            
BreakDown

Fish 44%
4 Noble Fish
1 GBU Faeries
1 BWG Fish
1 UW Fish
1 MonoU Tritones

Combo 11%
2 Oath

Stax 17%
2 Agro MUD
1 Red Agro Stax

Control 17%
2 Tezzeret
1 Dark Remora

Others 11%
1 Growatog
1 Dreadnougth (transformista)


1. Alfonso Calleja
MainDeck (60)
  
Creatures
  1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind

Spells
  1 Thirst for Knowledge
  4 Force of Will
  1 Mox Sapphire
  1 Mox Ruby
  2 Spell Pierce
  1 Ancient Grudge
  1 Ancestral Recall
  1 Time Walk
  1 Tinker
  1 Rebuild
  2 Intuition
  1 Regrowth
  1 Demonic Tutor
  1 Yawgmoth's Will
  4 Accumulated Knowledge
  4 Mana Drain
  1 Vampiric Tutor
  1 Mystical Tutor
  1 Brainstorm
  1 Mox Pearl
  1 Mox Jet
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Mana Crypt
  1 Sol Ring
  1 Black Lotus
  1 Fact or Fiction
  1 Time Vault
  1 Voltaic Key
  1 Tezzeret the Seeker
  2 Fire/Ice
  1 Gifts Ungiven

Lands
  1 Tolarian Academy
  2 Island
  3 Polluted Delta
  3 Flooded Strand
  1 Library of Alexandria
  2 Underground Sea
  2 Volcanic Island
  2 Tropical Island

Sideboard
  2 Engineered Explosives
  1 Wipe Away
  1 Krosan Grip
  2 Deathmark
  1 Ravenous Trap
  1 Yixlid Jailer
  1 Extirpate
  1 Tormod's Crypt
  1 Spell Pierce
  1 Red Elemental Blast
  1 Pyroclasm
  1 Darkblast
  1 Ancient Grudge

2. Juan Carlos Marchal
MainDeck (60)  

Creatures
  4 Noble Hierarch
  4 Cold-Eyed Selkie
  4 Qasali Pridemage
  4 Tarmogoyf
  2 Meddling Mage

Spells
  3 Swords to Plowshares
  1 Ancestral Recall
  4 Force of Will
  3 Daze
  3 Spell Pierce
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Time Walk
  1 Mystical Tutor
  1 Rebuild
  3 Null Rod
  1 Black Lotus
  1 Mox Pearl
  1 Mox Sapphire

Lands
  4 Wasteland
  3 Tropical Island
  3 Tundra
  1 Flooded Strand
  4 Misty Rainforest
  1 Forest
  1 Island
  1 Strip Mine

Sideboard
  1 Meddling Mage
  3 Tormod's Crypt
  1 Ravenous Trap
  2 Umezawa's Jitte
  1 Swords to Plowshares
  1 Sower of Temptation
  3 Trygon Predator
  1 Nature's Claim
  2 Relic of Progenitus

3. Álvaro Montiel
MainDeck (60)  

Creatures
  4 Juggernaut
  4 Lodestone Golem
  2 Razormane Masticore

Spells
  4 Sphere of Resistance
  4 Null Rod
  4 Tangle Wire
  1 Trinisphere
  2 Sculpting Steel
  4 Thorn of Amethyst
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Mana Crypt
  1 Mox Jet
  1 Mox Pearl
  1 Mox Ruby
  1 Mox Sapphire
  1 Black Lotus
  1 Sol Ring
  4 Chalice of the Void
  1 Mana Vault

Lands
  3 Ancient Tomb
  4 Mishra's Workshop
  2 City of Traitors
  4 Wasteland
  1 Strip Mine
  1 Tolarian Academy
  3 Mishra's Factory

Sideboard
  1 Razormane Masticore
  1 Duplicant
  4 Powder Keg
  3 Crucible of Worlds
  2 Relic of Progenitus
  2 Tormod's Crypt
  2 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
 
4. Gavin McCune
MainDeck "Gort's Revenge" (60)
 
Creatures
  4 Solemn Simulacrum
  4 Lodestone Golem
  4 Goblin Welder
  3 Razormane Masticore
  2 Duplicant

Spells
  2 Sculpting Steel
  1 Crucible of Worlds
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Mox Jet
  1 Mox Pearl
  1 Mox Ruby
  1 Mox Sapphire
  1 Black Lotus
  1 Sol Ring
  1 Trinisphere
  4 Chalice of the Void
  4 Thorn of Amethyst
  4 Tangle Wire

Lands
  2 Ancient Tomb
  6 Mountain
  2 Mishra's Factory
  4 Mishra's Workshop
  4 Wasteland
  1 Strip Mine
  1 Tolarian Academy

Sideboard
  2 Tormod's Crypt
  4 Relic of Progenitus
  3 Red Elemental Blast
  3 Spawning Pit
  3 Null Rod
 
5. Antonio Navas
MainDeck (60)

Creatures
  4 Noble Hierarch
  4 Cold-Eyed Selkie
  4 Qasali Pridemage
  4 Tarmogoyf
  2 Meddling Mage

Spells
  3 Null Rod
  3 Swords to Plowshares
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Mox Sapphire
  1 Mox Pearl
  1 Black Lotus
  4 Force of Will
  1 Rebuild
  1 Mystical Tutor
  1 Time Walk
  1 Ancestral Recall
  3 Spell Pierce
  3 Daze

Lands
  1 Strip Mine
  4 Wasteland
  3 Tropical Island
  3 Tundra
  1 Flooded Strand
  4 Misty Rainforest
  1 Forest
  1 Island

Sideboard
  1 Swords to Plowshares
  1 Meddling Mage
  1 Ravenous Trap
  2 Umezawa's Jitte
  1 Sower of Temptation
  3 Trygon Predator
  1 Nature's Claim
  3 Tormod's Crypt
  2 Relic of Progenitus

6. Mario Avalos
MainDeck (60)
 
Creatures
  1 Iona, Shield of Emeria

Spells
  1 Ancestral Recall
  1 Time Walk
  1 Yawgmoth's Will
  1 Demonic Tutor
  1 Vampiric Tutor
  1 Brainstorm
  1 Krosan Reclamation
  1 Regrowth
  1 Ancient Grudge
  1 Black Lotus
  4 Oath of Druids
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Mox Jet
  1 Mox Pearl
  1 Mox Ruby
  1 Mox Sapphire
  1 Mana Crypt
  1 Ponder
  1 Time Vault
  1 Voltaic Key
  4 Force of Will
  3 Spell Pierce
  1 Merchant Scroll
  1 Lotus Petal
  3 Mana Drain
  1 Mystical Tutor
  1 Lim-Dul's Vault
  1 Timetwister
  1 Tezzeret the Seeker
  1 Gifts Ungiven
  2 Repeal

Lands
  4 Forbidden Orchard
  2 Underground Sea
  1 Volcanic Island
  1 Polluted Delta
  1 Flooded Strand
  3 Misty Rainforest
  1 Island
  1 Forest
  1 Tropical Island
  1 Tolarian Academy
  1 Library of Alexandria

Sideboard
  1 Ancient Grudge
  2 Pithing Needle
  4 Leyline of the Void
  3 Firespout
  1 Empyrial Archangel
  1 Red Elemental Blast
  1 Progenitus
  2 Thoughtseize

7. José María Becerra
MainDeck (61)
 
Creatures
  4 Dark Confidant
  4 Tarmogoyf
  4 Noble Hierarch
  4 Qasali Pridemage
  4 Vexing Shusher
  2 Gaddock Teeg

Spells
  1 Mox Pearl
  1 Black Lotus
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Mox Jet
  3 Swords to Plowshares
  4 Thoughtseize
  4 Null Rod
  1 Duress
  4 Diabolic Edict
  1 Warren Weirding

Lands
  1 Swamp
  1 Plains
  4 Wasteland
  1 Strip Mine
  1 Forest
  1 Savannah
  2 Windswept Heath
  2 Verdant Catacombs
  3 Bayou
  2 Scrubland

Sideboard
  3 Yixlid Jailer
  3 Tormod's Crypt
  3 Relic of Progenitus
  1 Ethersworn Canonist
  1 Swords to Plowshares
  2 Krosan Grip
  2 Gaddock Teeg

8. José Luis Pastor
MainDeck (60)
 
Creatures
  4 Noble Hierarch
  4 Cold-Eyed Selkie
  4 Qasali Pridemage
  3 Tarmogoyf
  3 Trygon Predator

Spells
  4 Null Rod
  1 Swords to Plowshares
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Mox Sapphire
  1 Mox Pearl
  1 Black Lotus
  4 Force of Will
  1 Mystical Tutor
  1 Time Walk
  1 Ancestral Recall
  3 Spell Pierce
  4 Daze
  1 Hurkyl's Recall
  1 Brainstorm
  1 Regrowth

Lands
  1 Strip Mine
  4 Wasteland
  3 Tropical Island
  3 Tundra
  1 Misty Rainforest
  1 Scalding Tarn
  3 Polluted Delta

Sideboard
  3 Swords to Plowshares
  1 Sower of Temptation
  3 Tormod's Crypt
  3 Relic of Progenitus
  3 Ethersworn Canonist
  2 Pithing Needle

That was a mistake, I've fixed the deck list: Mario ran Darksteel Colossus main deck.

Sadly, only 16: the first tournament of the recently launched league fell right in the middle of the university exam period, so a lot of the regulars couldn't make it. Our numbers are normally 20-30. That said, some of the players on the list number amongst the very best Spain has to offer.

http://www.elsantuario.es/foro/index.php/topic,6063.0.html

1º Mario Zuñiga TPS

MainDeck (60)
  
Spells
  1 Darksteel Colossus
  1 Vampiric Tutor
  1 Sensei's Divining Top
  1 Yawgmoth's Will
  1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
  2 Cabal Ritual
  1 Tinker
  1 Mana Crypt
  1 Lotus Petal
  1 Sol Ring
  1 Mind's Desire
  1 Demonic Tutor
  1 Fact or Fiction
  1 Chain of Vapor
  1 Misdirection
  1 Mystical Tutor
  1 Thoughtseize
  1 Merchant Scroll
  1 Windfall
  1 Ancestral Recall
  2 Tendrils of Agony
  1 Ponder
  1 Mana Vault
  1 Brainstorm
  1 Time Walk
  1 Gifts Ungiven
  4 Dark Ritual
  1 Necropotence
  1 Rebuild
  1 Black Lotus
  2 Duress
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Mox Jet
  1 Mox Pearl
  1 Mox Ruby
  1 Mox Sapphire
  4 Force of Will
  1 Timetwister

Lands
  4 Polluted Delta
  1 Verdant Catacombs
  1 Flooded Strand
  1 Misty Rainforest
  2 Underground Sea
  1 Island
  1 Snow-Covered Island
  1 Swamp
  1 Tolarian Academy

Sideboard

  2 Spell Pierce
  2 Hurkyl's Recall
  1 Extirpate
  3 Dark Confidant
  2 Yixlid Jailer
  2 Pithing Needle
  1 Razormane Masticore
  2 Engineered Explosives

2º Carlos Santiago Vault

MainDeck (60)
  
Creatures
  1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
  1 Sower of Temptation

Spells
  1 Mox Pearl
  1 Merchant Scroll
  1 Sensei's Divining Top
  1 Voltaic Key
  1 Time Vault
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Mox Jet
  1 Mystical Tutor
  1 Mox Ruby
  1 Mox Sapphire
  1 Black Lotus
  1 Sol Ring
  3 Mana Drain
  1 Mindbreak Trap
  4 Force of Will
  1 Ancestral Recall
  3 Spell Snare
  1 Misdirection
  2 Fire/Ice
  1 Rebuild
  1 Time Walk
  4 Night's Whisper
  1 Vampiric Tutor
  1 Brainstorm
  1 Thirst for Knowledge
  1 Gifts Ungiven
  1 Yawgmoth's Will
  1 Tinker
  1 Demonic Tutor

Lands
  3 Polluted Delta
  2 Flooded Strand
  4 Underground Sea
  3 Volcanic Island
  4 Island
  1 Library of Alexandria
  1 Tolarian Academy

Sideboard

  1 Sower of Temptation
  1 Mindbreak Trap
  2 Triskelion
  1 Firespout
  4 Leyline of the Void
  1 Pithing Needle
  1 Tormod's Crypt
  3 Pyroblast
  1 Engineered Explosives

3º Antonio F. Baillo Zoo

MainDeck (60)

Creatures
  2 Grim Lavamancer
  4 Qasali Pridemage
  3 Gaddock Teeg
  2 Knight of the Reliquary
  4 Tarmogoyf
  4 Wild Nacatl
  4 Steppe Lynx

Spells
  4 Null Rod
  4 Path to Exile
  2 Oblivion Ring
  4 Lightning Bolt
  2 Sylvan Library

Lands
  1 Mountain
  2 Forest
  2 Plains
  4 Windswept Heath
  3 Wooded Foothills
  4 Arid Mesa
  1 Taiga
  2 Plateau
  2 Savannah

Sideboard

  2 Red Elemental Blast
  3 Ethersworn Canonist
  3 Krosan Grip
  3 Pithing Needle
  4 Tormod's Crypt

José Adamuz Faeries

MainDeck (60)

Creatures
  4 Spellstutter Sprite
  4 Tarmogoyf
  4 Dark Confidant
  2 Vendilion Clique

Spells
  1 Mox Jet
  1 Black Lotus
  1 Time Walk
  1 Hurkyl's Recall
  1 Maelstrom Pulse
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Diabolic Edict
  2 Spell Pierce
  1 Ancestral Recall
  1 Mox Sapphire
  3 Null Rod
  1 Relic of Progenitus
  4 Force of Will
  1 Lotus Petal
  3 Bitterblossom
  3 Daze
  1 Brainstorm
  1 Demonic Tutor

Lands
  4 Wasteland
  2 Tropical Island
  3 Polluted Delta
  2 Underground Sea
  3 Misty Rainforest
  1 Strip Mine
  1 Bayou
  1 Island
  1 Swamp

Sideboard

  3 Yixlid Jailer
  3 Tormod's Crypt
  2 Oxidize
  1 Energy Flux
  2 Doom Blade
  2 Arcane Laboratory
  1 Annul
  1 Darkblast

5º Eduardo Liébanas Bomberman-Vault

MainDeck (60)

Creatures
  1 Sower of Temptation
  1 Inkwell Leviathan
  3 Aven Mindcensor
  2 Auriok Salvagers
  4 Trinket Mage

Spells
  1 Mana Crypt
  1 Sol Ring
  1 Mox Sapphire
  1 Mox Ruby
  1 Mox Pearl
  1 Mox Jet
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Tormod's Crypt
  4 Force of Will
  2 Repeal
  1 Thirst for Knowledge
  1 Fact or Fiction
  1 Ancestral Recall
  1 Brainstorm
  1 Ponder
  4 Mana Drain
  1 Black Lotus
  1 Echoing Truth
  1 Tinker
  1 Mystical Tutor
  1 Time Walk
  1 Tezzeret the Seeker
  1 Time Vault
  1 Voltaic Key
  1 Sensei's Divining Top
  1 Engineered Explosives
  1 AEther Spellbomb

Lands
  4 Flooded Strand
  1 Plains
  4 Island
  4 Tundra
  1 Library of Alexandria
  1 Tolarian Academy

Sideboard

  3 Ethersworn Canonist
  2 Energy Flux
  1 Hurkyl's Recall
  3 Seal of Cleansing
  1 Sower of Temptation
  1 Pyrite Spellbomb
  1 Pithing Needle
  2 Relic of Progenitus
  1 Tormod's Crypt

6º Carlos F. Baillo NobleFish

MainDeck (60)

Creatures
  3 Meddling Mage
  4 Cold-Eyed Selkie
  4 Qasali Pridemage
  4 Tarmogoyf
  4 Noble Hierarch

Spells
  1 Mox Emerald
  3 Daze
  3 Stifle
  1 Hurkyl's Recall
  4 Force of Will
  1 Mox Pearl
  3 Null Rod
  1 Mox Sapphire
  3 Spell Pierce
  1 Ancestral Recall
  1 Mystical Tutor
  1 Time Walk

Lands
  1 Island
  1 Strip Mine
  1 Flooded Strand
  3 Tundra
  3 Tropical Island
  4 Misty Rainforest
  4 Wasteland
  1 Forest

Sideboard

  1 Ravenous Trap
  4 Swords to Plowshares
  2 Sower of Temptation
  2 Oblivion Ring
  3 Tormod's Crypt
  1 Pithing Needle
  1 Relic of Progenitus
  1 Meddling Mage

7º Mario Ávalos Iona Oath

MainDeck (60)

Creatures
  1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
  1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind

Spells
  1 Lat-Nam's Legacy
  1 Ancestral Recall
  1 Time Walk
  1 Yawgmoth's Will
  1 Tinker
  1 Demonic Tutor
  1 Vampiric Tutor
  1 Brainstorm
  4 Impulse
  1 Krosan Reclamation
  1 Regrowth
  1 Rebuild
  1 Sensei's Divining Top
  2 Ancient Grudge
  1 Pyroclasm
  1 Black Lotus
  4 Oath of Druids
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Mox Jet
  1 Mox Pearl
  1 Mox Ruby
  1 Mox Sapphire
  1 Mana Crypt
  1 Ponder
  1 Time Vault
  1 Voltaic Key
  4 Force of Will
  2 Spell Pierce
  2 Misdirection
  1 Merchant Scroll

Lands
  4 Forbidden Orchard
  1 Underground Sea
  3 Volcanic Island
  1 Polluted Delta
  1 Flooded Strand
  3 Misty Rainforest
  1 Island
  1 Forest
  1 Tropical Island

Sideboard

  2 Pithing Needle
  1 Tormod's Crypt
  4 Leyline of the Void
  3 Firespout
  1 Ravenous Trap
  1 Empyrial Archangel
  2 Red Elemental Blast
  1 Progenitus

8º Eduardo Suárez-Bárcena GW Beast

MainDeck (60)
  
Creatures
  2 Kataki, War's Wage
  4 Tarmogoyf
  4 Aven Mindcensor
  2 Icatian Javelineers
  4 Qasali Pridemage
  2 Vexing Shusher
  2 Ethersworn Canonist
  4 Gaddock Teeg
  3 Elvish Spirit Guide

Spells
  1 Worldly Tutor
  1 Sylvan Library
  1 Black Lotus
  1 Mox Emerald
  3 Null Rod
  1 Enlightened Tutor
  1 Mox Pearl
  2 Seal of Primordium

Lands
  3 Forest
  1 Strip Mine
  4 Wasteland
  3 Savannah
  1 Plains
  4 Wooded Foothills
  4 Windswept Heath
  2 Horizon Canopy

Sideboard

  2 Seal of Primordium
  2 Swords to Plowshares
  3 Wheel of Sun and Moon
  3 Tormod's Crypt
  1 Relic of Progenitus
  2 Umezawa's Jitte
  2 Oxidize
 
 

I'm for slotting him into my Shop Aggro, in place of Juggernaut and along with Sculpting Steel, which, a great defence against Sphinx and Leviathan, now allows me to copy 5/3's with sphere-like effects: we'll see how it works out. As far as fearing Null Rod goes, I run them main deck and the more recent MUD decks I've seen have dropped Metalworker and included Null Rod: there are just too many decks running Vault combo these days...

Adieu Juggernaut, we had some nice times together:

Le Roi est mort. Vive le Roi!

Thanks are due to the development team, a useful card of this calibre for Stax/Aggro Shop was long overdue.

Well done, sir! It's good to see that mono-red shop can still make it, even if things have become increasingly difficult in the current metagame.

You combo via Yawgmoth's Will the next time you activate Oath (i.e. the following turn), assuming you have 4 mana available (Krosan Reclamation; Flash of Insight; Lotus; Yawgmoth).

Here's the list fully translated into English:

Iona Oath (Santiago build)

1 Lat- Nam´s Legacy
1 Brainstorm
1 Merchant scroll
1 Regrowth
3 Spell pierce
4 Forbidden Orchard
1 Cunning Wish
4 FOW
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Island
1 Tendrils of Agony
4 Oath of Druids
1 Mox Ruby
1 Time walk
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Ponder
2 Ancient Grudge
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Mox sapphire
1 Black Lotus
1 Mystical tutor
1 Rebuild
1 Sensei's Diving Top
2 Misdirecction
1 Krosan reclamation
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Mindbreak trap
1 Demonic tutor
1 Mox jet
1 Wasteland
1 Gifts ungiven
1 Vampiric tutor
1 Iona
1 Flash of Insight
2 Tropical island
2 Volcanic island
1 Forest
3 Misty Rainforest
1 Strip Mine
2 Polluted delta
1 Underground sea

Sideboard
4 Leyline of the void
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Krosan Grip
1 Slaughter Pact
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Pithing Needle
1 Ravenous trap
1 Tinker
1 Empyrial Archangel
3 Red elemental Blast

For the record, here's my friend's Oath, without the Vault combo, that I was referring to in this thread:

http://www.elsantuario.es/foro/index.php/topic,5429.0.html

There is a mistake in the list, as Empyrial Archangel somehow became engineered explosives when they posted the T8. This build finished 1st and 4th in a 34 player tournament.

Karn has lost a lot of strength in a metagame dominated by Null Rod. Rather than considering Qasali in isolation, think of it in a deck with mana accelaration that hurts your sphere effects (Noble Hierarch) and in conjunction with Trygon Predator.

I don't think that anyone was arguing that it is THE reason, but rather one of many.

@Gandalf: I think the deck you list is best described as aggro MUD rather than Shop Aggro. The OP is interested in the aggro shop decks that do run welder as he clearly stated that they often include Magus of the Moon, so I think we are discussing the decks that appeared in response to GAT (i.e. Solemn Simulacrum, Triskelion, Welder, spheres...). That said, I agree with many of the points you make.

Mono-red Shop Aggro has lost a great deal of steam for a number of reasons:

1) As Gandalf points out, Oath is perhaps the biggest problem. Iona has encouraged many players to dust off their Oath decks. Iona is not particularly good against Aggro Shop decks, unless Oath is activated early on in the game, but she can win nevertheless. The problem with Oath arises post sideboard, when you are faced with Empyrial Archangel or Sphinx. Smokestack, should you choose to run it, often isn't quick enough to deal with these threats.

2) The appearance of Sphinx and Inkwell Leviathan, which cannot be targetted by Welder, have forced Shop players to include Sculpting Steel. Sculpting Steel is a good response to each of these cards, but without tutors, an early game Tinker often spells imminent defeat and Welder is no longer an answer.

3) As Smmenen points out, Pridemage can ruin your day.

4) The rise of Tezzeret and decks employing the Time Vault combo have forced Shop players to include Null Rod. Null Rod is undoubtedly the best artifact disruption in the current metagame; however, for Shop players, it comes at a high price and it can often hurt you as much as the opponent. The Shop decks require tweaking to include Null Rod and you can no longer run Triskelion. In any event, subsequent to the changes in combat, Triskelion is no longer a solution to Goyf and should probably be replaced by Razormane Masticore, but we can no longer weld Triskelion in and out of play to deal those final points of damage that make the difference between winning and losing.

5) Tezzeret players run enough islands to counteract any disruption caused by Magus of the Moon and Oath players often run a single forest for the same purpose.

6) Many Tezzeret/Oath decks include Tendrils as a second win condition, which means more Rebuild/Hurkyll's in the main deck. You can respond to this by including Red Elemental Blast in the Sideboard, but it often isn't enough.

Much to my regret, recent expansions have not given the Aggro Shop player many useable cards. The converse is true of the decks you are competing against and despite my best attempts to create a build that works, I think you have to strain too much to create a competitive Aggro Shop deck. Aggro Shop decks will continue to make top 8, but not as often as they did when we were facing GAT. Recent modifications to the rules (i.e. the reappearance of Time Vault and the increased use of Null Rod) have not helped matters. Hopefully, things will change when Worldwake appears, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

  

Yes, it seems I really did.

Belated congratulations! Seriously, sorry about that, I had no idea it was you.

In any event, I think we'll see more and more Iona Oath in upcoming T8's. Indeed, I'm a little concerned that Vintage will become a two-horse race between Tezzeret and Iona Oath decks.

@MirariKnight and Killane

We'll have to agree to disagree on this issue. I'm aware that my approach is single-minded, but I prefer to add cards to help me get Oath in play as quickly as possible rather than include the Vault combo. There are advantages and disadvantages when including or excluding a second win condition. I fully understand your position and I may be wrong. In any event, we can all agree that Iona has signalled the return of Oath.  

I don't see the problem, with a single Iona and Krosan Reclamation you can ensure that all the pieces are where they need to be. Whilst you are right to point out that you need to successfully cast and activate Oath, I would still forego the Vault combo in favour of Tendrils/Krosan.

When Iona comes into play, it's basically game over: I activate Oath, you lose. A friend of mine runs Iona Oath with Tendrils and without Time Vault and I don't think Vault is necessary. Why do I need infinite turns if I can simply kill you in a single turn? In any event, it doesn't really matter whether you use the Vault combo or Tendrils post Iona - Iona wins. We can argue back and forth on the merits and disadvantages of each win condition, but the important thing to my mind is the opponent's inability to play spells of a given colour: it's like a Meddling Mage that names half the cards in your opponent's deck and I believe that it is primarily this that has given Oath a new lease of life.

Krosan reclamation + yawgmoth's will + tendrils and you can win on the turn after you activate the Oath, as you yourself stated in a previous post: after all, with Iona in play, your opponent is probably in no position to prevent the combo.

Oath has become dangerously powerful as a result of Iona.

I agree with you, but without further information from the OP with regards to metagame, we are flying in the dark when offering advice. I think that if he decides to go with your Moon based build or Abdullah's Mud build, he won't go far wrong.

You need more red mana sources for the welders and the REB's in your SB:

include 6 mountains and 4 Solemn Simulacrums.

You should also consider including 2 Gorilla Shamans.

Leyline and Tormod's seems like overkill, why not 3 Tormod's and 3 Relic of Progenitus? I assume you are expecting a lot of dredge decks.

Including Welder and Metalworker has been done in the past, with some success, but you may be better going one route or the other (i.e. MUD or mono-red Stax). Abdullah's list above seems good, but you have not provided information on your metagame and if you are expecting a lot of Fish with Null Rod, you may want to reconsider playing mono-brown. I would include Masticore rather than Triskelion for this reason alone (unless you want to go the Ravager/Triskelion combo route).

I'm currently playing a variation of the deck Harlequin posted above, although without the Magus or Moon effects - in my humble opinion, given the rise of Tezz/Drain decks, Null Rod is an obligatory inclusion.

Red

You are right to point out that I am talking specifically about Spain. Perhaps the situation here differs from other European countries. I also agree with Steve's analysis of the motives behind the concentration of power in Europe.

Once again, I beg to differ. In Spain, events that do not permit 10 proxies are by no means the norm. The two tournaments in Madrid this year and the tournament in Valencia last year, which are by far the largest vintage tournaments in recent history, all allowed proxies. Over the course of the last two years, I have played vintage at least once a month and I have never played in a tournament that did not permit 10 proxies.

I beg to differ. I have been playing vintage for a few years in Spain and I have never attended a large tournament where proxies were not used. I believe that the Catalan Vintage league has banned proxies; however, they are the exception rather than the rule.

No, it is not your imagination.

Most players I have talked to are firmly against these changes, particularly the new combat rules.

I think the new combat rules detract from the game.

Hmmm, how about Oona + Painter's Servant in a Painter/Slaver control deck?

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